Official Post-Match Thread:: DC vs. RSL :: 6.23.07

Discussion in 'DC United' started by Riz, Jun 23, 2007.

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  1. Riz Moderator

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    Nope, you're right - our game is at home this Thursday.
          
  2. dynamofan Member

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    Don't you guys still have to play at TFC and New England? Three more games on turf left.....

    I was interested in the comments from several of you about Gomez. Sounds familiar, we're saying the same thing about DeRosario on the Houston boards. He was supposedly not happy that he didn't get a much larger raise this year. Whether it's because he's pissed, or because he is trying too hard, he has not played very well for Houston this year, starting in the CCC.

    Hopefully both Gomez and DeRo come around, I think they are two of the most entertaining players to watch in MLS.
  3. Huwiler's Odoreaters New Member

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    I didn't know about the squeaky girl voice. 'Nuff said.

    Signed,

    Barry White
    "DC 4 LIFE"
  4. gocaps Member

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    :confused:

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but, in my eyes, Watson is shite as a player. Too small and not skilled enough to hack it. He's only on an MLS roster because he's 21. All he brings is some speed and a lot of agitation.

    Esky, on the other hand, has a higher work rate, makes smarter runs, and, of course, has a great left footed shot.

    To put it another way, this is Esky's 5th season in the league and in that time he's won an MLS Cup MVP award and proven that, when "on", he's a very good goalscorer. This is Watson's third season in the league and he still can't crack the starting lineup of the worst team in the league.
  5. s0ccerm0m New Member

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    Didn't look like it. Erpen kept him on for the first goal, and Namoff kept him on for the second. I wonder if the boys missed Troy's direction in the back and therefore they weren't moving upfield together. On the first goal, Boswell was clearly playing the trap, but Erpen didn't step up. On the second goal, both Erpen and Boswell stepped up (although why they were in the same area is beyond me - another case of "lack of direction"???)
  6. gocaps Member

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    We've already won at TFC. The turf there and in New England play totally different from RSL's, which plays just like the old carpet did.

    Having watched the game in New England tonight right before DC's game, I think the turf in NE plays pretty well. It's a little fast but not outrageously so, and the crazy high bounces we saw at RSL tonight are nonexistent.
  7. Huwiler's Odoreaters New Member

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    Had he not made the MLS Cup thanks to everyone else's effort, he wouldn't have been the "MLS Cup MVP."

    I won't fight for this very hard, but I watch more or less every MLS game, and I think Watson's a tough little bastard and is more than adequate on the outside. On a team full of losers like Williams and previously Cunningham, Watson shows what can only be described as "bottle." I really do think he could start for a four-in-the-back DC.

    But like I said, of all the world's great problems, determining whether Watson is under-rated for a piss-poor team is only number 2 or 3.
  8. Huwiler's Odoreaters New Member

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    NE has higher turf, but if it's wet, it's way, way worse than RSL's.

    Toronto's plays too slow relative to grass.

    The less said about NY's the better: it's like the parquet floors of the old Boston Garden, except RBNY can't figure out what parts play to their advantage.
  9. Th4119 Member

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    I said that it was not intentional.
  10. gocaps Member

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    I agree that it isn't worth a fight. In a couple of years we'll know for certain.
    This I'll fight about :D Esky was up-and-down for most of his tenure in DC, but he was on fire in 2004 and he was a huge part of that run. That first goal against NE in the ECF was magnificent, and I don't think anyone else on the team at the time could have scored it.
  11. Lowecifer Member+

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    It was a joke, silly.

    Back to the match. Crap ground, shit fans, ******** off.

    :D
  12. gocaps Member

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    I've noticed that too. It's like playing on the beach. Balls just die on that thing.

    Haven't watched a wet-turf game in NE yet.
  13. Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

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    Huh??? The way you phrased this, it sounds like he rode everyone else's back to get there. Instead, he got the go-ahead goal on the road against NY in the first round, and the first of our three goals against New England in the ECC. One could just as easily say Moreno or Gomez made it to the Cup thanks to his effort.
  14. misoccer6 New Member

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    I agree.. I too won't fight hard but Watson is a good player ..he's just been jerked around by RSL..You have to admit, he came into the game and got into Olsen's head and took him out of his game...and with a yellow card.
  15. Th4119 Member

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    As soon as I saw Watson fondling Olsen's hair I knew Benny was going to get him the next chance he got. Usually I'd like a more subtle challenge but Olsen's elbow right to his back was perfect. What a twat.
  16. gocaps Member

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    Agitating does not a good player make. Any smartass can say or do enough stuff to get into the head of an emotional player like Olsen. Hell, throw me out on the field and I could probably say enough of the right/wrong things to get someone like Clint Mathis to kick at me.
  17. Th4119 Member

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    I agree with this. He makes fairly astute tactical observations and seems to have a decent knowledge of the game.

    Bretos is doing a better job too with not talking about the Galaxy every five seconds regardless of the team on the field. He's not great, but improving.
  18. Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

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    Goddammit I am pissed. I can't believe how pissed off I am. It's not the losing, although that's plenty annoying. It's going out there and playing like you'd rather be anywhere else. That crap will always burn me.
  19. Th4119 Member

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    Great call. I remember being very unimpressed during Talley's last season or two here. He has shown a lot better over the last couple years. He is very injury prone though. I wonder how much of that has to do with being on turf all the time and how much is his body.
  20. Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

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    Absolutely. I've often wondered how Bretos is able to talk at all, given that his mouth is occupied with giving long slow BJs to everyone on the Galaxy all the time.
  21. Th4119 Member

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    Couldn't agree more.
  22. Th4119 Member

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    Sachin got John Spencer to taunt him mid-corner kick a few years back. Nothing against our friendly moderator, but I think the difference in skill in that exchange more than illustrates your point.
  23. RoundBallNewbie New Member

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    I just saw that Freddy had a fairly ridiculous game for the U-20s as well, so it could have been a lot worse than this, even. Just mind-boggling.

    This is also, disturbingly, the first game in a while where there have been major obvious issues with Soehn's tactical decisions. It says a lot that the team apparently couldn't survive subtractions from the first team. There goes my confidence that Benny and Boz could be replaced without too much drop-off for the Copa.
  24. Big Roy Member

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    Hmm.... no Freddy = RSL first win...coincidence?

    Surely no DCU supporter would see a collation there...
  25. nick Member

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    Chris Sullivan is fine. I like his analysis and he gives it a little different tone than most as he describes the game in almost musical terms.

    Bretos by contrast is absolutely annoying so much so that part way through the second half, i actually put the set on mute.
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