Official 2012 non-League Club Football Thread [R]

Go Mizusawa Club

 

Nagano approved.

http://www.jflnews.com/diary2/index.html#20120723

 

How many clubs are in the association right now?

 

This means they'll be promoted this year by finishing in JFL top 4? Or is there something else they still should do?

 

They won't play in J League until the March of 2016 (the sheduled time they should get over their home ground).

 

I'll repeat the question

The reason I am asking is the 100 years plan of 100 professional clubs eligible for J-League and where are they now...

 

Four: Kamatamare Sanuki, V-Varen Nagasaki, Nagano Parceiro and S.C. Sagamihara. There's a pretty comprehensive wiki article on the subject, y'know.

Of these four, V-Varen and Parceiro are not eligible to promotion because of the stadiums. V-Varen expected to finish their renovation next year (but these are old news, I dunno what their current situation is) and Parceiro shall wait till 2016.

Sagamihara plays in Kanto league so no promotion for them either.

So basically it's just Kamatamare who may hope for promotion, and they suck badly in the league.

 

This is what I needed thanks, I'll read the stuff and write something later

 

Ok read it

Now correct me if I am wrong but currently this is the deal

all J1 and J2 clubs are naturally members = 40 clubs

+ Kamatamare Sanuki (JFL)and S.C. Sagamihara (Kanto D group) = 42 members

now the following clubs are close and on the road =

V-Varen Nagasaki (JFL) expected to be eligible in 2013
Nagano Parciero (JFL) expected to be eligible in 2016

further on
Zweigen Kanazawa and FC Ryukyu are somewhat close but not everything is ok (somebody knows what exactly is missing?)

Now as mentioned above Only Kamatamare Sanuki can be promoted to J2 under this circumstances. So does that mean no matter what place they take at the end of the season (as long as they are not 16-18 at the end of the season)
Meaning only 1 club will be relegated from J2 this season

Am I right on this?

 

Well, you are definitely right on that only up to one club can be relegated to JFL.

But it still does matter what place Kamatamare will finish at. If they fail to reach JFL's Top-2, no promotion or relegation between J2 and JFL will happen at all.

Considering they are now at 7th place 9 points behind V-Varen who are second, it is the most likely scenario. City of Machida may sleep peacefully.

 

oh, I thought it just goes down the league table to the first club who can qualify

 

Wrong about Nagasaki their new stadium will be finished before time in this August so Nagasaki can go up especially with the 4000+ attendance they have this season.

Kamatamare is not likely to promote since there attendances are low this season.

As I understand Nagano could go up before 2016 if they play in Matsumotos ground and gets more than 3000 at JFL.

 

Didn't know that, thanks for the news.

And for Parceiro, they're kinda rivals with Yamaga, don't they? So why would latter allow them to play in?

 

It's not Yamaga's stadium; if anything the club exists because of the stadium. The same way that neither Tokyo FC nor Very can claim Ajinomoto, both Nagano teams should use Alwin.

 

Its even worse the stadium is not owned by Matsumoto City but by Nagano Prefecture. Some Matsumoto fans has seculated in the scenario that Parceiro by allying them Nagano city and prefecture could kick Yamaga out of Alwin.

Anyways I think this is behind the reason why Parceiro told J-League that they are ready for J-League in 2014. (Not kicking Yamaga out, but able to play at Alwin).

 

Teams only need the capability to use a stadium of 10000. That can be Alwin, with games played in Nagano city whenever they know the crowd is small enough. Many teams do this or have done it.

Plus, Nagano prefecture holds no preference for Nagano city over Matsumoto city, or any other city. The local government may possibly change the name of the prefecture in the near future anyway.

 

Some would say its a surprise since they never done great and JSC was the only big club left in Hokushinetsu, however Fukui was definately the club in the regionals signing most agressively before season kick-off compared to Nara, Fukushima, Morioka etc. But a great championship and would be nice to see them in the JFL with their football only stadium.

 

btw Vendo what would Nagano prefecture be called then? Shinshu-ken or Shinano ken? or are we talking about the old plan to abolish the prefectures?

 

This is my first season keeping a fairly close eye on the JFL.

I've been surprised by how well the regional promotion series winners Yokohama SCC have done, whereas the runners-up (Fujieda MyFC) are really struggling to avoid relegation (bottom spot being automatic, and second-bottom being a pro/rel playoff).