Official 2012 ACL Thread

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  1. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    He was playing against a rookie who was put as a starter on Chinese sold out stadium. And the rookie failed. The Brazilian track of Mariqui won't get any supporter on his knees praying for his club to sign him. The average level of Chinese ACL teams was exposed by Nagoya two weeks ago and FC Tokyo yesterday. You could call Yazawa, Watanabe (or Tanabe) or Fujimoto as godlike but... You'd have to watch every Guangzhou game this and last season to take an appropriate measure for his talent like you do with J League. It seemed like scoring a hat-trick against Reysol is easier than against, say, Changchung Yatai (man, when you're not closely paying attention to what's happening with Chinese clubs after looking at the table of the previous season you could think that half of teams were relegated and second half was promoted :rolleyes:).
     
  2. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    lol my opinion of Muriqui doesn't date from this day you know, I watched Guanghzou a lot last year, just think his ability is fantastic. At least he's not proving me wrong so far.
     
  3. greenlion

    greenlion Member

    Apr 22, 2004
    CHINA
    Club:
    Beijing Guoan
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
    CSL 2012 Season budget by team

    http://sports.sina.com.cn/j/2012-03-08/ ... 2938.shtml

    Guangzhou Evergrande 700m CNY ≈ 83.93m ERU
    Shanghai Shenhua 450m CNY ≈53.96m ERU
    Dalian Aerbin 250m CNY ≈ 29.98 ERU
    Beijing Guo'an 200m CNY ≈ 23.98m ERU
    Shandong Luneng 200m CNY ≈ 23.98m ERU
    Tianjin Teda 200m CNY ≈ 23.98m ERU
    Guangzhou R&F 200m CNY ≈ 23.98m ERU
    Jiangsu Sainty 150m CNY ≈ 17.99m ERU
    Hangzhou Greentown 130m CNY ≈ 15.59m ERU
    Dalian Shide 100m CNY ≈ 11.99m ERU
    Guizhou Renhe 100m CNY ≈ 11.99m ERU
    Henan Jianye 100m CNY ≈ 11.99m ERU
    Shanghai Shenxin 100m CNY ≈ 11.99m ERU
    Liaoning Whowin 100m CNY ≈ 11.99m ERU
    Changchun Yatai 80m CNY ≈ 9.59m ERU
    Qingdao Jonoon 70m CNY ≈8.39m ERU

    Players with highest annul salary list

    1.Nicolas Anelka - France - Shanghai Shenhua - 10.7 m €/ 14.12 m USD
    2.Dario Conca - Argentina - Guangzhou Evergrande - 7m USD
    3.Moisés - Brazil - Shanghai Shenhua - 3.5m USD
    4.Rafael Coelho - Brazil - Guangzhou R&F - 2.7m USD
    5.Davi - Brazil - Guangzhou R&F - 2m USD
    6.Cleo - Brazil - Guangzhou Evergrande - 1.5m €/ 1.97m USD
    7.Aleksandar Jevtic - Serbia - Jiangsu Sainty - 1.5m USD
    7.Fabiano - Brazil - Shandong Luneng - 1.5m USD
    7.Obina - Brazil - Shandong Luneng - 1.5m USD
    7.Peter Utaka - Nigeria - Dalian Aerbin - 1.5m USD
    11. Gilberto Macena - Brazil- Shandong Luneng - 1.33m USD
    12. Nano - Spain - Guizhou Renhe - 1m €/ 1.31 m USD
    12. Rafa Jorda - Spain - Guizhou Renhe - 1m €/ 1.31 m USD
    12. Andrija Kaluderovic - Serbia - Beijing Guo'an - 1m €/ 1.31 m USD
    15. Muriqui - Brazil - Guangzhou Evergrande - 1.3m USD
    15. Fábio Rochemback - Brazil - Dalian Aerbin - 1.3m USD
    15. Jumar - Brazil - Guanghou R&F - 1.3m USD
    18. Velice Sumulikoski - Macedonia - Tianjin Teda - 1.1m USD
    19. Carlos Adriano - Brazil - Dalian Shide - 1.05m USD
    20. Joel Griffiths - Australia - Shanghai Shenhua -1m USD
    20. Reinaldo - Australia - Beijing Guo'an - 1m USD
     
  4. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    Tamada sent a PK to China, there was a pitch problem because I don't see how he could shoot it this way.
     
  5. Kigai

    Kigai Member

    Jul 18, 2006
    Tokyo, Japan
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    It looks like it will be FC Tokyo and Nagoya in the knockout rounds. Gamba should just withdraw from ACL.
     
  6. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    Hold your breath for Nagoya, that missed PK could be costly for them. Also, it's really important to qualify first in order to receive in the knockout round. I'm worried.

    Kashiwa can still make it, beating Buriram is totally possible and then they would have a final against Jeonbuk when, potentially, a draw would be enough.
     
  7. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    So how many Japanese teams do you think we will see progress from the group stage?

    Gamba still have a slight chance, but probably not.
    Tokyo seems ok, Nagoya, if the motivation is there, should also manage without too many problems but with Reysol its hard to say.
     
  8. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    Wow. I stand corrected! Didn't know the difference were that big. I think it was in a Sky Sports article I read it, but that was in connection to the Anelka-transfer.

    Based on budget, Shanghai Shenhua aren't exactly performing too well at the moment btw=)
     
  9. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    must win for Kashiwa tomorrow, if they make it, a draw vs Jeonbuk will be enough because I don't think they'll win in China. I hope not.

    Nagoya needs at least a draw to make up for the disappointing 0-0 Tianjin.
     
  10. weka

    weka Member

    Dec 9, 2011
    Hoping for Gamba Osaka to pull threw against their next two (ACL) and league matches. I doubt they'll make it past ACL. Their 5-0 drubbing last Saturday is not for their moral. :\
     
  11. -Kodemari

    -Kodemari Member

    Jan 15, 2012
    Trento, Italy
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Kashiwa currently leading against Buriram, 1-0.

    Central Coast Mariners are trashing Tianjin Teda 3-0, should Nagoya lose this one they would be reached by the Aussies...
     
  12. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    You don't see a packed stadium for ACL game aside from GW :)
     
  13. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    1-1 between Nagoya and Seongnam, I feel better ...
     
  14. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    lol Seongnam's keeper makes a kamikaze attack on Nagai, only a yellow. Thankfully for him he doesn't play for Sendai ...

    edit : crazy crazy ending Nagoya was close to take the win home.
     
  15. Cashman327

    Cashman327 Member

    Jan 31, 2012
    Dubai
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Nagai should have done better with both chances.

    The ending seemed to be all or nothing from both teams. Very odd.
     
  16. -Kodemari

    -Kodemari Member

    Jan 15, 2012
    Trento, Italy
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Jeonbuk wins away at Guangzhou and are now on top of the group, both Kashiwa and Evergrande share 7 points, Buriram in last place with 6.

    Kashiwa now needs to win against Jeonbuk Motors on last matchday and hope that Guangzhou doesn't do the same against Buriram...
     
  17. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    No they only need a win given the fact Jeonbuk have nine points. That will be extremely difficult ...
     
  18. -Kodemari

    -Kodemari Member

    Jan 15, 2012
    Trento, Italy
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    My bad. But yeah that doesn't change much... it will be very hard for them even to manage a draw.
     
  19. weka

    weka Member

    Dec 9, 2011
    Does anyone know where I can download the match Guangzhou 1 - 3 Jeonbuk so I can watch later?
     
  20. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    Let's wait for the end of Kashima's game. Grampus already qualified.
     
  21. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    Looks like we worried for nothing :troll:
     
  22. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
    I was wroooooong! Sooooo wrong!!!!!!
     
  23. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    And Nagoya won 3-0, like a boss.
     
  24. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    And Tulio scores yet again, like a boss.
     
  25. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    U.C. Sampdoria
    Japan
    Oct 4, 2011
    Munich, Germany
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Great Nagoya, but mostly great Kashiwa. They dragged themselves out of hell!
     

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