Official 2009 Pre-Season Roster Thread Part 2:: Vide's Gone

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  1. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Zaher's been let go according to Goff

    :(
     
  2. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    ^^^ Damn! Zaher IMO was one of the best, if not the best guy at his position(out of the subs) when we used him at LB! :(
     
  3. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, does he end up in Minnesota or Vancouver? ;)
     
  4. tallguy

    tallguy Member+

    Sep 15, 2004
    MoCoLand, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This move, while not unexpected, still seems to be a bad move. Zaher was one of our best subs last year and, IMO, probably should have been starting over Burch this coming season. I wouldn't be surprised if Zaher ends up starting for another MLS team this year.
     
  5. La Barra Blonde

    Oct 21, 2007
    Section 135
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    JoJo will be crushed - again. ;)
     
  6. Zman Gunner

    Zman Gunner BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 7, 2003
    Middletown, DE
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you go by the Noah's Ark approach of DCU pairs currently at USL teams, he might join Montreal or Carolina:

    Minnesota - Quavas Kirk & Rod Dyachenko
    Vancouver - Jay Nolly & Justin Moose
    Puerto Rico - Nicholas Addlery & Peter Villegas
    Charleston - John Wilson & Stephen Armstrong
    Montreal - Stephan deRoux
    Carolina - David Stokes (not sure if he is with them again this year)
     
  7. dozerman

    dozerman Member

    D.C. United
    United States
    Dec 5, 2006
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    DC Signs Dejan Jakovic

    Who? I think this was done just to upset Srdan... Who is the odd man out then, Veris?

    EDIT: GOFF UPDATE AND ROSTER ANALYSIS

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/soccerinsider/2009/02/dcu_signs_defender.html

    So we offer Kocic a developmental deal, no senior deal. He has opportunities in Sweden. Also, Jakovic is projected to start. So...

    Update to Zman's earlier post:

    Senior Roster (18 – 20 spots)
    1. Louis Crayton
    2. Bryan Namoff
    3. Devon McTavish
    4. Greg Janicki
    5. Marc Burch
    6. Santino Quaranta
    7. Clyde Simms
    8. Christian Gomez
    9. Fred
    10. Ben Olsen
    11. Boyzzz Khumalo
    12. Andrew Jacobson
    13. Chris Pontius
    14. Ange N’Silu
    15. Luciano Emilio
    16. Jaime Moreno
    17. Francis Doe
    18. Dejan Jakovic
    19. Reserve Goalie (Nic Platter?)
    20. Reserve Defender/Midfielder (Kyle Veris – Anthony Peters – Domenic Mediate) [one makes the team if a senior roster goalie is kept - otherwise, two of them could make the team]

    Reserve Roster (4 – 6 spots)
    1. Reserve Goalie (Milos Kocic* – James Thorpe)**
    2. Ryan Miller
    3. Rodney Wallace
    4. Reserve Defender/Midfielder (Mamadou Danso - Brandon Barklage – Lyle Adams***)

    * - Kocic only offered a developmental deal
    ** - two developmental goalies may be kept in lieu of a senior roster reserve goalie
    *** - Not in Camp

    Roster by Position for Players in Current Camp (24 spots)
    G – Crayton, Platter?/Kocic?/Thorpe? (2 will make team)
    RB – Namoff, Miller
    CB – Jakovic, McTavish, Danso?
    CB – Janicki, Veris?/Peters?
    LB – Burch, Wallace
    RM – Quaranta, Khumalo, Mediate?
    DM – Simms, Jacobson
    AM – Gomez, Olsen
    LM – Fred, Pontius, Barklage?
    F – Emilio, N’Silu
    F – Moreno, Doe

    International Roster Spots (9 total spots – 8 for DCU + 1 from Colorado)
    1. Crayton
    2. Gomez
    3. Fred
    4. Khumalo
    5. Emilo
    6. Doe
    7. N'Silu
    8. Jakovic
    9. Kocic/Danso (if one of them makes the team)
     
  8. La Barra Blonde

    Oct 21, 2007
    Section 135
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Awesome!! Now there's someone who can curse back at Srdan!! :D
     
  9. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow. I hadn't heard this guys name before in camp. Was he in camp? I guess I've been slipping. Well, I hope that this works out. I just wish I knew a bit more about him for my own personal and selfish reasons as a fan.
     
  10. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not to mention we now finally have someone on the team we can later trade to Toronto :D
    Or to a new team if one of the new expansion teams is in Canada.

    I say hang onto Peters, show Veris the door :)

    But do we even have room?
     
  11. nobletea

    nobletea Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 29, 2004
    HarCo
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Got some answers today, I think.

    Goff basically said we're carrying 2 keepers, not three. And we can pretty much assume one of them is not Kocic.

    We got the foreign central defender we heard about. Can't say he fits the experienced role we might hope for, but at the same time I'm glad he's not a 34 year old trialist.

    I think the team is done until the summer break, when they may add whatever the team appears to be lacking, based on performances, injuries, etc.

    It will be an interesting season. I think we'll get points from extra hard work, rather than style points, if you take my meaning.
     
  12. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And that's precisely what we were missing last year all season and have missed in the playoffs every year for the last several years.
     
  13. Zman Gunner

    Zman Gunner BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 7, 2003
    Middletown, DE
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Jakovic acquisition is an interesting one which was likely on no one's radar on B.S. He was midfielder/forward at UAB (what is it this season with centerback candidates - Peters and Danso were also college forwards) and was a Gen Adidas target before he bolted to Red Star. If he was a US citizen, I wonder if he might have required a weighted lottery (similar to Robbie Rogers) instead of being able to be acquired via allocation $ like DCU did with him.

    My prediction:
    Senior Roster
    1) Platter makes the senior roster - Crayton's injury status and mid-season contract end date make it too risky to just have a rookie back-up given that the team's veteran roster composition means that the front office has a "win now" mentality.
    2) Mediate makes the senior roster - Veris and Peters cut. Mediate's versatility (outside mid, outside back, even some center back) and experience with the club give him the edge.

    Developmental Roster
    3) Kocic goes to Europe - if he is as confident as he talked at the beginning of camp, taking a $13K 3rd string developmental roster role is quite the come-down (plus it keeps DCU's 2nd round drafting trend intact in terms of European adventures - jacobson last year, Adams and possibly Kocic this year) - Thorpe keeps his developmental spot. If Kocic stays, I would loan him to a USL or USL2 team to get game experience - doing the same with Thorpe would also make sense.
    4) Danso (although his fate is tied to what the team does with Kocic as he requires that last international roster spot) makes the developmental roster - Barklage cut.
     
  14. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Well at two guys in the middle at 6 feet up (Dejan Jakovic & Janicki) i think we should be ok.
     
  15. 6 ft. Leprechaun

    Dec 9, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Absolutely!
     
  16. Zman Gunner

    Zman Gunner BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 7, 2003
    Middletown, DE
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would think that Janicki may sit behind McTavish on the depth chart at the start of the season. Jakovic ought to be good with the ball at his feet given his college experience being a midfielder/forward. DCU has definately added some size this off-season at both ends of the field with Jakovic and likely a Danso/Veris/Peters on the backline and Pontius & N'Silu up top.
     
  17. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think he will. McTavish is a good, general purpose player who can sub in a lot of different positions, but we sorely lacked a solid, central defender last year. We didn't have one until Janicki showed up. I think it will be he and Jakovic who start at CB.

    IMHO, McTavish will be a very valuable #12-type player, who will see considerable minutes due to being the first sub off of the bench, unless a forward/striker is needed.
     
  18. Zman Gunner

    Zman Gunner BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 7, 2003
    Middletown, DE
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree that the long-run role for McTavish is probably a 12th man utility role but I would bet that for Opening Day, DCU opts to have at least a little MLS experience that McTavish brings for one of the centerback positions in terms of knowing the opposition and working with Crayton, Namoff, Burch, etc. - given the MLS experience that Janicki (3 games) or Jakovic (0 games) currently have.
     
  19. jason1551

    jason1551 Member+

    Apr 9, 2003
    Columbus, GA
    Club:
    DC United
  20. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think I'm with Winoman on this one. Jakovic is apparently earmarked to start when he shows up, barring the unforeseen. Janicki, even in the 3 league games last year (plus CCL game), showed himself to be a better centerback than McTavish. At some point the leadership should have learned their lesson that you go with skill, not some sort of seniority system. Payne's comments in the online chat belied that fact when he was specifically asked if the new Canadian addition would likely mean that McTavish would be pushed to duty as an outside mid. Payne essentially responded that it would, although McTavish's use as a utility player was a bonus. So my point is that if the front office already sees it that way, why would they delay playing who they believe are the starters together on opening day? The way you are ready in week 10 to play together is by starting to play together in week 1. I could be wrong I suppose, but it simply makes sense to me.
     
  21. Lowecifer

    Lowecifer Member+

    Jan 11, 2000
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
  22. Zman Gunner

    Zman Gunner BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 7, 2003
    Middletown, DE
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The President says one thing (Payne's chat has him saying that McTavish is more of a midfield option - he also includes Quaranta in the forwards for his depth chart and Mediate with the defenders - it has been a while since QUaranta played much forward here and I am not sure that it will increase soon with N'Silu, Doe, and Pontius on the team) and the Technical Director says the opposite (Kasper in his comments to Goff that McTavish and Janicki are competing for the other starting CB spot) - so it does not seem as if the front office viewpoint is a unanimous one in terms of McTavish's role, at least in the short-run. While McTavish may be a good option at RM for defensive purposes, Quaranta is the RM starter there now and it is likely the spot at which Khumalo and Mediate would get playing time as well - not sure if McTavish will get major minutes there.
     
  23. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Peters has been signed by DCU.
     
  24. Rjbatzler

    Rjbatzler Member

    Oct 26, 2007
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Where'd you see/hear this?I haven't seen anything on BtB, Goff, or dcunited.com.
     
  25. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From the lips of Tom Soehn.
     

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