Official 2007-08 Sand Leauge Draft Thread

Discussion in 'Games & Fantasy' started by riot71, Jul 15, 2007.

  1. blech

    blech Member+

    Jun 24, 2002
    California
    Sorry that took so long - had planned to take Niemi and did not have back up strategy for that - rather than flip a coin, I'll just wait to take the last goalie - i will also continue the run on Fulham defensive players (when is the last time you heard that?) - i'll check in later in the day to see if it's time for the last pick, but otherwise assume we'll wrap up early tomorrow - good work everyone

    Round 13

    1 London Lawn Gnomes: De Ridder - M - BIR - 4.5
    2 Yermom: Leadbitter - M - SUN - 4.5
    3 Crazies: Ingimarson - D- RE - 4.5
    4 Glorydaze: Van Der Sar- GK- MU- 6.0
    5 Tally Road AFC: Hunt-M-RED-6.0
    6 LSG St. Pauli: Niemi-GK-FU-4.0
    7 Gunners 320:Rosenior - D - FU - 4.5
    8 Blechs Dawgs: Bocanegra - D - FU - 5.0

    Round 14

    1. Blechs Dawgs: Richardson - M - SU - 5.5
    2. Gunners 320:
    3. LSG St. Pauli:
    4. Tally Road AFC:
    5. Glorydaze:
    6. Crazies:
    7. Yermom:
    8. London Lawn Gnomes:
     
  2. Ingromius

    Ingromius Member

    Feb 3, 2000
    NW London
    Sorry about gazumping Niemi -- but same situation for me, he was key. You really scared me with your pick... thought you'd taken what Furby sent me for Raj as you'll see below!

    Round 13

    1 London Lawn Gnomes: De Ridder - M - BIR - 4.5
    2 Yermom: Leadbitter - M - SUN - 4.5
    3 Crazies: Ingimarson - D- RE - 4.5
    4 Glorydaze: Van Der Sar- GK- MU- 6.0
    5 Tally Road AFC: Hunt-M-RED-6.0
    6 LSG St. Pauli: Niemi-GK-FU-4.0
    7 Gunners 320:Rosenior - D - FU - 4.5
    8 Blechs Dawgs: Bocanegra - D - FU - 5.0

    Round 14

    1. Blechs Dawgs: Richardson - M - SU - 5.5
    2. Gunners 320: Richards - D - MC - 5.0
    3. LSG St. Pauli:
    4. Tally Road AFC:
    5. Glorydaze:
    6. Crazies:
    7. Yermom:
    8. London Lawn Gnomes:
     
  3. Ingromius

    Ingromius Member

    Feb 3, 2000
    NW London
    Round 13

    1 London Lawn Gnomes: De Ridder - M - BIR - 4.5
    2 Yermom: Leadbitter - M - SUN - 4.5
    3 Crazies: Ingimarson - D- RE - 4.5
    4 Glorydaze: Van Der Sar- GK- MU- 6.0
    5 Tally Road AFC: Hunt-M-RED-6.0
    6 LSG St. Pauli: Niemi-GK-FU-4.0
    7 Gunners 320:Rosenior - D - FU - 4.5
    8 Blechs Dawgs: Bocanegra - D - FU - 5.0

    Round 14

    1. Blechs Dawgs: Richardson - M - SU - 5.5
    2. Gunners 320: Richards - D - MC - 5.0
    3. LSG St. Pauli: Reo-Coker - M - AV - 5.5
    4. Tally Road AFC:
    5. Glorydaze:
    6. Crazies:
    7. Yermom:
    8. London Lawn Gnomes:
     
  4. Ingromius

    Ingromius Member

    Feb 3, 2000
    NW London
    Not a good day for BigSoccer in general it seems. I'm running low on time for today but like blech I expect we'll have to wrap up tomorrow anyway. No big deal, again we're well ahead of our goal for completion anyway.

    I'll check in again one more time shortly before I go; if anyone is sure to be around and wants me to send a proxy so the draft can be completed (that would logically be either Furby the superproxy or blech), post that request here and I'll send it to you. Otherwise I'll check in tomorrow morning to see where we are.

    We do have another round and a half to go but overall I'd say this is the best draft I've been part of in as long as this league has run, so well done to all.
     
  5. glorydaze

    glorydaze Member+

    Liverpool FC
    Apr 5, 2007
    Shenandoah Valley, Virginia
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll be around to proxy anybody's picks, but it wouldn't matter a bit if things didn't wrap up until tomorrow. Just PM them to me if you wish. If you don't, no problem.
     
  6. blech

    blech Member+

    Jun 24, 2002
    California
    Re: Official 2007-08 Sand League Draft Thread

    i thought i'd re-post this since we now have the "multi-quote" feature - i suppose it will have it's uses, but probably just going to make posts longer by including more quoted material....

    i'm also available to take the proxies if you want to send them to me - i should be around pretty regularly for the rest of this weekend - but since the only intrigue for me at this point is finding out which goalies are left, i'm content to have this slow down :)

    my guess is people have tried to check in, and been met by the "hiccup" announcement, and who knows when they'll look again - curious to see what all these ugrades are about (in addition to multi-quoutes) as i was also exeriencing loading issues (in an odd way, i'm glad to know it's others and not just my computer!)

    post-draft analysis thread to begin soon ?!?!? let the games begin....
     
  7. glorydaze

    glorydaze Member+

    Liverpool FC
    Apr 5, 2007
    Shenandoah Valley, Virginia
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm off for the evening. I'll make my pick in the morning if it has gotten to me.
     
  8. riot71

    riot71 Member+

    Dec 11, 2003
    New Jersey
    Sorry about the long delay

    Round 13

    1 London Lawn Gnomes: De Ridder - M - BIR - 4.5
    2 Yermom: Leadbitter - M - SUN - 4.5
    3 Crazies: Ingimarson - D- RE - 4.5
    4 Glorydaze: Van Der Sar- GK- MU- 6.0
    5 Tally Road AFC: Hunt-M-RED-6.0
    6 LSG St. Pauli: Niemi-GK-FU-4.0
    7 Gunners 320:Rosenior - D - FU - 4.5
    8 Blechs Dawgs: Bocanegra - D - FU - 5.0

    Round 14

    1. Blechs Dawgs: Richardson - M - SU - 5.5
    2. Gunners 320: Richards - D - MC - 5.0
    3. LSG St. Pauli: Reo-Coker - M - AV - 5.5
    4. Tally Road AFC:Doyle-GK-BIR-4.0
    5. Glorydaze:
    6. Crazies:
    7. Yermom:
    8. London Lawn Gnomes:
     
  9. glorydaze

    glorydaze Member+

    Liverpool FC
    Apr 5, 2007
    Shenandoah Valley, Virginia
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Round 13

    1 London Lawn Gnomes: De Ridder - M - BIR - 4.5
    2 Yermom: Leadbitter - M - SUN - 4.5
    3 Crazies: Ingimarson - D- RE - 4.5
    4 Glorydaze: Van Der Sar- GK- MU- 6.0
    5 Tally Road AFC: Hunt-M-RED-6.0
    6 LSG St. Pauli: Niemi-GK-FU-4.0
    7 Gunners 320:Rosenior - D - FU - 4.5
    8 Blechs Dawgs: Bocanegra - D - FU - 5.0

    Round 14

    1. Blechs Dawgs: Richardson - M - SU - 5.5
    2. Gunners 320: Richards - D - MC - 5.0
    3. LSG St. Pauli: Reo-Coker - M - AV - 5.5
    4. Tally Road AFC:Doyle-GK-BIR-4.0
    5. Glorydaze: Nosworthy- D- SU- 4.0
    6. Crazies:
    7. Yermom:
    8. London Lawn Gnomes:
     
  10. CrazyUnionBox

    CrazyUnionBox Member

    Mar 14, 2007
    137 Seat 1
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Round 13

    1 London Lawn Gnomes: De Ridder - M - BIR - 4.5
    2 Yermom: Leadbitter - M - SUN - 4.5
    3 Crazies: Ingimarson - D- RE - 4.5
    4 Glorydaze: Van Der Sar- GK- MU- 6.0
    5 Tally Road AFC: Hunt-M-RED-6.0
    6 LSG St. Pauli: Niemi-GK-FU-4.0
    7 Gunners 320:Rosenior - D - FU - 4.5
    8 Blechs Dawgs: Bocanegra - D - FU - 5.0

    Round 14

    1. Blechs Dawgs: Richardson - M - SU - 5.5
    2. Gunners 320: Richards - D - MC - 5.0
    3. LSG St. Pauli: Reo-Coker - M - AV - 5.5
    4. Tally Road AFC:Doyle-GK-BIR-4.0
    5. Glorydaze: Nosworthy- D- SU- 4.0
    6. Crazies: Friedel - G -BR - 5.5
    7. Yermom:
    8. London Lawn Gnomes:
     
  11. blech

    blech Member+

    Jun 24, 2002
    California
    We are down to the final 10. 10 picks to go.
     
  12. sizal9

    sizal9 Member+

    Mexico
    Aug 24, 2005
    Round 13

    1 London Lawn Gnomes: De Ridder - M - BIR - 4.5
    2 Yermom: Leadbitter - M - SUN - 4.5
    3 Crazies: Ingimarson - D- RE - 4.5
    4 Glorydaze: Van Der Sar- GK- MU- 6.0
    5 Tally Road AFC: Hunt-M-RED-6.0
    6 LSG St. Pauli: Niemi-GK-FU-4.0
    7 Gunners 320:Rosenior - D - FU - 4.5
    8 Blechs Dawgs: Bocanegra - D - FU - 5.0

    Round 14

    1. Blechs Dawgs: Richardson - M - SU - 5.5
    2. Gunners 320: Richards - D - MC - 5.0
    3. LSG St. Pauli: Reo-Coker - M - AV - 5.5
    4. Tally Road AFCoyle-GK-BIR-4.0
    5. Glorydaze: Nosworthy- D- SU- 4.0
    6. Crazies: Friedel - G -BR - 5.5
    7. Yermom: Jaidi - D - BIR - 4.5
    8. London Lawn Gnomes:
     
  13. Ingromius

    Ingromius Member

    Feb 3, 2000
    NW London
    Just a reminder, folks, we still have a draft to finish! I figured we'd be done by the end of today, now not so sure. Let's get it done.
     
  14. glorydaze

    glorydaze Member+

    Liverpool FC
    Apr 5, 2007
    Shenandoah Valley, Virginia
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree. It seems we lost momentum when BS went down. It would be nice for everybody to check in regularly and get to the end.
     
  15. blech

    blech Member+

    Jun 24, 2002
    California
    Re: Official 2007-08 Sand League Draft Thread

    I would suggest that people continue to check in throughout the day, but that whenever you are signing off for the day, you send me a pm with your proxy picks. Again, if you prefer that I not see your entire list, send them to me in order (1st proxy, 2nd proxy, etc), and I will only open each successive one if the earlier one is unavailable. In any event, the lists are very short at this point and don't go beyond 3 choides, and in fact some people (glory and ingro (and then gunners/furby since ingro already has that proxy)) could go ahead and make their picks now since the positions that need to be filled for the last round need are settled. But I suppose proper draft etiquette says to wait..... Here are the proxies I would need after Nicephoras picks:

    sizal - 1st and 2nd choice goalie
    crazy - 1st and 2nd choice defender
    glory - 1st choice forward
    riot - 1st, 2nd, and 3rd choice defender
    ingro - 1st choice midfielder
    gunners - 1st and 2nd choice midfielder
    blech - and then i'll take the last goalie

    and given nicephoras' cash situation, sizal and crazy may actually be assured of getting their first choice if they're going for someone 5.5 or higher, in which case they wouldn't even need a second proxy.

    i'm on the west coast and will check in later and then again very late; so, please consider sending me your proxies if you're signing off for the day and then hopefully i can finish this up by the end of the day.
     
  16. glorydaze

    glorydaze Member+

    Liverpool FC
    Apr 5, 2007
    Shenandoah Valley, Virginia
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sounds good to me. I'll be checking in off and on until about 11p (edt) and then send you my pick. I'm the only one with a fwd and am just waiting to finish up. Thanks.
     
  17. Ingromius

    Ingromius Member

    Feb 3, 2000
    NW London
    Re: Official 2007-08 Sand League Draft Thread

    Wow, thanks for your excellent analysis, blech. I'm in the same boat as glorydaze -- I can and will check in sporadically until late tonight EST. But since it seems that I'd actually be the fist in line to pick my final MF anyway, if things haven't progressed by then I'll go ahead & send you my proxy. Secrecy isn't that huge an issue anyway; if he were such an important pick I'd have been kinda stupid to leave him for round 15 anyway.

    Drafts often end with the order breaking down for just this reason, but let's give it today for people to make their picks in the usual way before we go with the anarchy method.

    Remember, though, that one motivation for getting this draft done is that once the final pick is made, we freeze for 24 hours, then can start tweaking our squads & adding new transfers since the database froze when the draft began. The longer we dilly dally, the longer we have to wait to make changes.


     
  18. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Re: Official 2007-08 Sand League Draft Thread

    Didn't get a PM. Will try to post my picks, but I'm in the Virgin lounge at JFK trying to do work, so this may take a bit of time, and I'm on my second glass of wine.
    My instructions to my trainee on what to do tomorrow morning may end up suffering a bit.............
     
  19. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Re: Official 2007-08 Sand League Draft Thread

    Round 14

    1. Blechs Dawgs: Richardson - M - SU - 5.5
    2. Gunners 320: Richards - D - MC - 5.0
    3. LSG St. Pauli: Reo-Coker - M - AV - 5.5
    4. Tally Road AFCoyle-GK-BIR-4.0
    5. Glorydaze: Nosworthy- D- SU- 4.0
    6. Crazies: Friedel - G -BR - 5.5
    7. Yermom: Jaidi - D - BIR - 4.5
    8. London Lawn Gnomes: Jaaskelainen - G- BW - 5.0

    Round 15

    1 London Lawn Gnomes: Bramble - D- WIG - 4
    2 Yermom:
    3 Crazies:
    4 Glorydaze:
    5 Tally Road AFC:
    6 LSG St. Pauli:
    7 Gunners 320:
    8 Blechs Dawgs:
     
  20. Ingromius

    Ingromius Member

    Feb 3, 2000
    NW London
    Amazing. Still nothing. So I'll need a second, but I propose we follow blech's proposed "order:" We dispense with draft order so we don't have to wait around for others to login when they feel like it, with the only limitation being that you can't pick ahead of someone who needs the same position and has the higher position in the draft. So we end up with several parallel "drafts" for this 15th round. Note that since Nicephoras has made his picks, we're into the 15th round, his draft is complete, so it's just a matter of making sure nobody gazumps someone ahead of him in the draft who needs the same position.

    I further propose that we declare the draft "complete" at midnight EST tomorrow, Monday. That would mean rosters are frozen until Midnight EST on Tuesday. After that, even if some managers haven't gotten around to making their 15th pick, the free-for-all begins.

    Not sure how you all feel; simply put, I've enjoyed the draft but I've had enough after 2 days of checking in every few hours for no reason, waiting for picks to be made. So like I say once someone seconds this we can proceed -- I, sizal (who's up anyway), crazybox, and glorydaze can all go ahead with our picks.

    The parallel orders would be as follows:



    GK
    1. sizal9
    2. blech

    DEF
    1. Crazybox
    2. Riot71

    MID
    1. ingromius
    2. gunners320/furby

    FWD
    1. glorydaze
     
  21. glorydaze

    glorydaze Member+

    Liverpool FC
    Apr 5, 2007
    Shenandoah Valley, Virginia
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I second. Let's do it. I'm tired of waiting.
     
  22. glorydaze

    glorydaze Member+

    Liverpool FC
    Apr 5, 2007
    Shenandoah Valley, Virginia
    Club:
    Charleston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Round 14

    1. Blechs Dawgs: Richardson - M - SU - 5.5
    2. Gunners 320: Richards - D - MC - 5.0
    3. LSG St. Pauli: Reo-Coker - M - AV - 5.5
    4. Tally Road AFCoyle-GK-BIR-4.0
    5. Glorydaze: Nosworthy- D- SU- 4.0
    6. Crazies: Friedel - G -BR - 5.5
    7. Yermom: Jaidi - D - BIR - 4.5
    8. London Lawn Gnomes: Jaaskelainen - G- BW - 5.0

    Round 15

    1 London Lawn Gnomes: Bramble - D- WIG - 4
    2 Yermom:
    3 Crazies:
    4 Glorydaze: Tuncay- F- MI-7.5
    5 Tally Road AFC:
    6 LSG St. Pauli:
    7 Gunners 320:
    8 Blechs Dawgs:
     
  23. blech

    blech Member+

    Jun 24, 2002
    California
    Re: Official 2007-08 Sand League Draft Thread

    I like the concept (although I get that it's the weekend and we have people in different time zones, and thus I'm less "amazed" about the fact that we've slowed down). And, it is going to be embarrassing if Dust finishes their draft before we do! So, as long as there is no one picking for your position ahead of you, why not copy the bracket and fill in your pick for round 15? Riot, Your the draft admin - is this cool with you? If so, Yermom, Crazies, Glory, and LSG can proceed when they want. I added the positions that each team needs to the current round 15 below - cut and paste and let's finish.

    I don't expect it to be an issue as I'm guessing this will wrap up early tomorrow at the latest with all picks made, but if we're going to agree on a cutoff, there needs to be a time prior to that when owners in "second" position can go ahead and make there picks, as right now we are still waiting. And, if we end up with all picks made earlier than tomorrow at midnight, then that should be the end and when the 24 hour wait period starts, right?

    Round 15

    1 London Lawn Gnomes: Bramble - D- WIG - 4
    2 Yermom: G
    3 Crazies: D
    4 Glorydaze: Tuncay- F- MI-7.5
    5 Tally Road AFC: D
    6 LSG St. Pauli: M
    7 Gunners 320: M
    8 Blechs Dawgs: G
     
  24. Ingromius

    Ingromius Member

    Feb 3, 2000
    NW London
    blech, you're right -- once the last pick is made the 24 hour freeze would automatically begin. Easy to measure from the timestamp on that particular post.

    For those unfortunate enough to be stuck behind someone else, I do raise again the point about the 10 hour window. It's designed for just such times as these. Nicephoras made his pick, by my math (BS settings still on London time) at 7:57 PM, which would mean Sizal's window closing at 5:57 AM. So if the pick isn't made when you get up tomorrow, blech (although I'm sure it will be), I'd say go ahead.

    Once that's done I'll create a new "postdraft analysis" thread in which I'll list each team's current roster by position. It'll be a good chance for you to correct any mistakes in my records, and for us to talk a bit of trash about each other's teams as well. Which is when the fun really starts :D

    Again, despite these final round miseries, it's still been an excellent draft so once again I thank and rep Riot71 for setting it up and running it so well.

    oh yeah, my pick. Coming.
     
  25. Ingromius

    Ingromius Member

    Feb 3, 2000
    NW London
    Round 15

    1 London Lawn Gnomes: Bramble - D- WIG - 4
    2 Yermom: G
    3 Crazies: D
    4 Glorydaze: Tuncay- F- MI-7.5
    5 Tally Road AFC: D
    6 LSG St. Pauli: Milner-M-NUFC-6.5
    7 Gunners 320: M
    8 Blechs Dawgs: G
     

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