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  1. kernel_thai

    kernel_thai Member+

    Oct 24, 2012
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    They play
    WNY 4 x
    Wash 3 x
    Chi 2 x
    Seat 2 x
    Port 3 x
    KC 3 x
    Bos 4 x

    Wouldnt Washington be their natural rival an deserve more than 3 games? If they were going with 21 games wouldnt they want 3 against everyone?
     
  2. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You gays and gals are thinking to logically, get out of that mind set for at least this season. :p
     
  3. Nacional Tijuana

    Nacional Tijuana St. Louis City

    St. Louis City SC
    May 6, 2003
    San Diego, Calif.
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thorns at FCKC to start the league, according to "NWSL News" tweet.
     
  4. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
  5. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's pretty wacky. You'd think it would either be 3 games against each opponent or else weighted even more toward nearby teams. But they play Portland as many times as they play Washington (3). And odd that they play Boston and Western New York 4 times but DC only 3.

    If they're going to go this route, then my guess is that Portland's schedule will amount to something like this:

    Sea 4x
    KC, Chi - one 4x, one 3x
    Sky - 3x
    Bos, Was, WNY - one 3x, two 2x
     
  6. mng146

    mng146 Member

    Jul 19, 2011
    Rochester, NY
    So some teams will have 11 home matches, and others 10? That makes no sense whatsoever. :confused:
     
  7. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's what WUSA did. Teams would have 10 home games one year, then 11, then back to 10.
     
  8. ForeverLOST108

    ForeverLOST108 Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Orlando
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Schedule is finally up.

    First game is Saturday, April 13th - FC Kansas City vs Portland Thorns
     
  9. kool-aide

    kool-aide Member+

    Feb 1, 2002
    a van by the river
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I missed the link you provided at first--for some reason only having "up" hyperlinked was a problem for me. Guess my eyesight is going in my old age.
     
  10. ForeverLOST108

    ForeverLOST108 Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Orlando
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll change that for everybody.
     
  11. kool-aide

    kool-aide Member+

    Feb 1, 2002
    a van by the river
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sure it is just a "me" problem and not a general problem.
     
  12. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Aug 10 - For the first time since '03, there will be FOUR ProWoSo matches on the same day (in this country). Like.
     
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  13. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The leaked Sky Blue schedule on the previous page is missing one match, on the road against the Spirit. The overall schedule makes somewhat more sense now. So for them it's:

    WNY 4 x
    Wash 4 x
    Chi 2 x
    Seat 2 x
    Port 3 x
    KC 3 x
    Bos 4 x
     
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  14. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    It looks like there's an soft East/West conference thing going on: play 4 games against each of the other three teams in your half of the country, (12 "in-conference" games,) then 3-3-2-2 against the four in the other half (10 "out-of-conference" games). I just checked Seattle and FCK City and that's how they've panned out; haven't double-checked the others yet.

    It's not the "three-all-plus-one-rivalry" first announced, but still close enough for my liking.
     
  15. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Spirit's schedule matches that: 4 games against each of the east coast teams, 3 against Chicago and Seattle, 2 against Portland and KC.
     
  16. LeftCoastLondoner

    Oct 29, 2012
    Long Beach, CA
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    I kinda like the scheduling: it ups the rarity value just a little for your team v. teams on the other coast. Thorns play Breakers and Sky Blue three times, Spirit and Flash only twice - and all those games are in the second half of the season. I'm excited.
     
  17. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They've got a kind of secondary division thing going on, too: Washington and Western New York are paired with Chicago and Seattle, with three matches in each east-west rivalry, while Boston and Sky Blue are paired with Kansas City and Portland, ditto.
     
  18. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I don't remember WUSA ever making it to September. WPS's second season was much longer, and let to a lot of complaining that it prevented players from working as college/high school coaches.

    EDIT: I'm late to the party. Sorry.
     
  19. WPS_Movement

    WPS_Movement Member+

    Apr 9, 2008
    I'm wondering if there is national "television" coverage on Sundays?
    I'm noticing that the more lucrative teams (Portland, Kansas City, etc.) play a lot more home matches on Sundays, than say the lesser lucrative teams such as Washington and Sky Blue. Portland and Kansas City provide more of a sexy style game (not to mention a bigger crowd shown in the background on TV), than the defensive oriented Sky Blue, and the less glamorous Washington team.

    For example, Portland has six matches scheduled at home on Sundays.
    FC Kansas City has five matches scheduled at home on Sundays.
    This is compared to ....
    Washington only has one match scheduled at home on a Sunday.
    Sky Blue only has two matches scheduled at home on Sundays.

    Nobody else in the entire league has 5 or 6, except Kansas City at 5, and Portland at 6.
    Boston has 4 home matches on Sundays (they have Leroux, Simon, and a high potent offense), and will have a packed crowd on TV in the background as well.

    Just food for thought.
     
  20. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Those are some pretty ridiculous assertions with regards to "style of play".
    At this moment any assumption of which teams will be "defensive" or "sexy" or "glamorous" is just hogwash.

    Having spent years building schedules myself, I can pretty much assure you that Saturday/Sunday schedule has more to do with venue availability and team wishes. I do not believe any team in NWSL is the "primary" tenant at any of their facilities - though you could make a case for the Spirit at the SoccerPlex and the Reign at Starfire. Even then I'm guessing the NWSL scheduling takes a back seat to any regularly scheduled camps or tournaments.
     
  21. WPS_Movement

    WPS_Movement Member+

    Apr 9, 2008
    Actually, I think I just cracked the code.
    Saturday evening is definitely when the "national televised match of the week" will be featured on (weekly), if they have it in this league.

    There are also some interesting start times on Saturday evening, that are differentiated from other start times on the other days of the week. Example here, such as multiple matches on Saturday evenings throughout the year starting at 7:35 (notice how the time there ends on a "5" and not a "0").

    The inaugural match (Portland vs. KC) starts at 7:35 on a Saturday evening. Hmmm?
     
  22. WPS_Movement

    WPS_Movement Member+

    Apr 9, 2008
    88 regular season matches in the entire league:

    Monday: 0 matches
    Tuesday: 0 matches
    Wednesday: 14 matches
    Thursday: 7 matches
    Friday: 3 matches
    Saturday: 37 matches
    Sunday: 27 matches

    In WPS, there were more matches on Sundays than on Saturdays (not just on TV, but overall).
    In NWSL, there are ten more matches on Saturdays than on Sundays (37 compared to 27).
    WPS decided that Sunday was more important than Saturday, fact (based on scheduling).
    NWSL decided that Saturday is more more important than Sunday, fact (based on scheduling).

    If Friday counts as a weekend here, then there are 21 mid-week matches, and 67 weekend matches, of the 88 total matches. Essentially, the league chose to schedule "approximately" (not precisely) 25% of all matches as "mid-week" matches, and 75% of matches as "weekend" matches, with more devotion toward Saturday than Sunday (on weekend matches). Just another reason to think if they have a "national game of the week" deal (with let's say, Fox or NBC Sports), then it looks like there's a better chance (by the odds) that it'll be on Saturdays than on Sundays (that's under the assumption it would even be on the same day of the week, like WPS Sundays on Fox Soccer Channel). Television coverage could be more sporadic and more regional this time.
     
  23. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For what it's worth (I have no idea), here are the NCAA Division I women's soccer day of week attendance averages for the 2012 season:

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  24. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    You misunderstand what "facts" are. It is a "fact" that there are more games on Sundays than on Saturdays.

    That fact does not indicate what NWSL thinks Sunday is more important. That is your opinion.

    Without researching venue availability, any such assertion is pure opinion.
     
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  25. WPS_Movement

    WPS_Movement Member+

    Apr 9, 2008
    WPS was even quoted (before the 2009 season kicked off) that Sundays were their #1 targeted day of the week for most of their matches. That was their preference.

    NWSL is leading off with their "inaugural" match on a Saturday (not a Sunday).
    That tells me everything I need to know.
    And if you're talking venues, most venues are going to be at least as readily available (if not more available) on Sundays than on Saturdays anyways (especially in the summer months), and the NWSL still squeezed in more matches on Saturdays than on Sundays. Players (Ella Masar and Yael Averbuch) on their twitter chats have even said the focus on weekends was to have more matches on Saturdays than on Sundays.

    All that makes it fact.
    And I agree with NWSL on it.
    Many families have religious commitments to attend on Sundays, and this especially shuts out attendance from fans (on Sundays) that live more than 150 miles away from the stadium.

    If you were to give a survey, to the general population, and ask them which day they'd rather travel a minimum of 150+ miles to attend a concert, sporting event, etc., a greater % will certainly say they'd rather travel that on a Saturday than on a Sunday, if they had the choice between the two days on the weekend. Now that is not fact, but that is certainly close to one, based on common sense (perception).
     

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