NSR: Literature thread

Discussion in 'Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, & the former Soviet Repu' started by yasik19, Nov 2, 2007.

  1. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
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  2. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
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    Heard the argument million times. Don't care.
     
  3. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Dni Turbinix was Stalin's favorite play - he saw it many times. Its arguably what saved Bulgakov from the purges.
     
  4. Catfish

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    Oct 1, 2002
    Chicago
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    Arsenal FC
    Is "War + Peace" worth reading? Is it really worth taking the time?
    Do Russians still rank it as a novel?

    I have only read 3 famous Russian novels:
    -Crime + Punishment by Fyodor Dostoevsky
    -Fathers + Sons by Ivan Turgenev
    -The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky

    I have taken Russian/Soviet history during my Bachelor's Degree and having grown up in the 1980s with the Cold War; Russia has been a mystery and intrigued me.

    Thanks.
     
  5. yasik19

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    Yes, plus how would you know if it's worth reading if you don't read it.;)

    :confused:As oppose to?
     
  6. Catfish

    Catfish Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Chicago
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    Maybe I didn't word it properly, forgive me. Is "War + Peace" still highly regarded and promoted as THE Russian novel. I have been told "War + Peace" is THE novel. I was curious if, anyone in this forum had read "War + Peace"?

    I, only raise this question because everyone I know who reads has heard of "War + Peace", but I have only met 1 person who has ever actually read it, my Russian/Soviet History Professor. He has been to RUS/USSR over 15 times; he is not of Russian decent, but from Minneapolis and took the Russian language and was just intrigued.
     
  7. yasik19

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    I think a large number of posters have read or claimed ;) to have read this novel. I have and although like I said few pages back it's not my favorite Tolstoy's novel, I still liked it.

    As far as if I would call it THE Russian novel, I wouldn't. But I think to the rest of the world it is.
     
  8. Catfish

    Catfish Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Chicago
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    Forgive me, I merely glanced over the previous pages.
     
  9. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
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    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    I have started reading it multiple times. Who knows, one day I might even finish it.
     
  10. Catfish

    Catfish Member

    Oct 1, 2002
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    LOL, I'm with you. I have picked up and began it 3 times in the last 15 years.
     
  11. yasik19

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    It is long. I read it in two books, so maybe that made it easier, compared to having one really large one.
     
  12. Real Corona

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    Jan 19, 2008
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    I made it through 800 pages of Moby Dick, which was in some ways worth it. I guess War and Peace would be the Mount Everest of literature and maybe Moby Dick was just Denali.
     
  13. Catfish

    Catfish Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Chicago
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    I heard from a good friend, fellow bookworm, and magazine editor that Moby Dick is great!
     
  14. Real Corona

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    It is like climbing a mountain, long and painful but rewarding at the end.
     
  15. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
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    Heard Moby dick is extremly overrated. Isn't War and Peace more like a compilation of novels than one whole novel ? I know Tolstoy didn't consider to be one.
     
  16. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

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    At the risk of derailing another thread, where did you hear that?
     
  17. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
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    What the first or last part ? I think you mean Moby Dick. I heard it was boring as hell from my high school teacher, yes I remember things from a long time ago. He said exactly what you describe basically, it's mainly a whole lot of nothing. It doesn't matter to me, I'm not going to read it.

    Which kind of makes my comment pointless and irrelevant, I like to read my own words.
     
  18. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
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    United States

    In all honesty, I read simply to do it.
     
  19. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
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    CSKA Moskva
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    That doesn't surprise me.

    You guys are complete and total geeks...who also happen to love sports lol.
     
  20. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
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    Dima, are you serious? Please tell me you're here to just take a piss.
     
  21. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
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    What do you mean ?
     
  22. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
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    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    Have you read your posts? You can't be serious.
     
  23. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
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    About what ?
     
  24. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
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    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    ummmm.......

    Does that help?
     
  25. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    A long time ago? You're what, in your 20s? FFS.
     

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