Mexico is in freaking chaos. I haven't bother reading the newspapers and not aware if they report everything but when armed gunmen can shutdown streets, divert traffic while local police do nothing; or getting caught in the crossfire which is happening. Rafa is right the country is a warzone. Some relatives recently came back from Zihuatanejo for a two-week vacation. They were scared and only went out to shop for bare necessities. These are people who have lived there their whole lives up until 2 years ago. No visiting old friends to catchup on old times. Travel to neighboring towns was on the itinerary although. Its sad when you can only visit your parents for a few hours every few years because of the condition of the state.
I think it´s way overhyped. I´ve been down here for 3.5 months and have not experienced any acts of violence. Of course, I´m in one of the safest states of the country, but it´s not as bad as you guys think.
Not directed at anyone in particular but something I've noticed is that a lot of people are in full denial as far as how shit things are back home.
Depends on where you are in Mexico. Are you gonna tell me that someone in D.F. or Queretaro is going to agree with your claim that their life is chaos right now? Doubt it.
People exaggerate. Some die. The media latches on and somewhere in between the global system structures the narrative to a point where it benefits from the smearing of Mexico. Caracas is the deadliest city in Latin America. I would still live there. Don't believe everything you hear kids. And only half of what you see.
Its one thing to read about shit in the news and another to actually experience the state of things in person. I've gone to Mexico just about every weekend for the last 5 years. Not once have I been bothered by anybody, or caught in any cross fire, etc..and I've been out and about at 2 n 3 in the morning. Yes, there are plenty of killings, but like Phenom says, it's almost all people who are involved in the drug trade business.
Yea, but lets also not put our heads in the sand and pretend there is nothing wrong. Things are bad and they're not improving.
Well not in the economic factor but in the lawlessness in huge parts of the country. And that level of it happened after Calderon. And Juarez looks very bad. There are huge parts that look like ghost town because people fled the extortionists. It's doing better than it was in the worse time but a far cry from before that. And I'm not defending the narcos, I just know the drug war is bullshit and I'm sick of how the country is being used. It's like the Cold war when the US and Communist just decided to fight in third world countries. For what? So American kids don't do drugs? The same kids whose fathers love guns so much that you can't do anything even remotely limiting to them? It's like "stop the flow of drugs which is impossible the way we are doing it but still do it. And we won't help with the flows of drugs or give an inch to that". Thanks. And Felipe said "Yes, sir". Screw him.
No doubt. Something is very wrong in Mexico, with certain regions more affected than others. I'd give corruption --on all levels, be it drug-related or not, the advantage over the more visible killings in the North in terms of what poses a greater danger to the nation's security. Sure it's a visceral sight to behold-- but a group of people getting beheaded in Tamaulipas isn't going to do much to affect the life of a Yuppie in Mexico City. Don't even get me started on this failed state bullshit.
That's the thing ... I do agree there is a demand dimension to the problem, and I have mentioned it on numerous occasions. The white Republican thing is really sophomoric, though. Useless rhetoric. The benefit to Mexico of eliminating Narcos is not having them influence the police, the armed forces, the judiciary and political leaders. It is the benefit of Democracy and, more importantly, Sovereignty. The Narcos represent the most egregious of all Mexican oligarchies and the biggest threat to Mexican Sovereignty - which used to be a big deal. There is a demand dimension, but like most problems, focusing on a single aspect of the issue isn't going to yield effective results. A single minded focus only serves to DEFLECT from other potentially more difficult solutions.
Useless rhetoric? Who are the main causes of the fact that decriminalization is not even on the table in the US? That medical marijuana is federally fought? Who are is the group who is the main proponents of being "tough" on crime which leads to most of that? Republican leadership most of the time. Just look at the drug policy of the people like Gingrich and Romney. There is no question who are the main proponents so spare me about it being sophomoric. And I love how I'm the one deflecting as if your points are so solid. How do you eliminate the narcos and the 50 billion dollar industry that is occurs because of demand from the US? If going by the all out force now is such the way, why is the situation a lot worse after Calderon and his plan? If the plan is rotten at the core, why does it make sense to continue it? Why must Mexico be a pawn for a failed war?
you guys keep telling yourself its only criminals suffering the consequences if it helps you sleep at night. Anywhere the zetas are is disputed territory and very dangerous for the local population.
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thing is, the narcos are the cause of lawlessness. they must be destroyed and the mexican government must come and assert their rightful place as the ones who provide a lawful government under the Mexican constitution. the narcos are trying to take over Mexico for their financial gain. these cartels must be destroyed whatever the cost.
This. I've heard that in some places its the same as always or better, but last time (2008) I was in Chihuahua and Juarez it was very scary.
as long as people use drugs in this country, the mexican govt and narcos will have to co-exist. narcos have existed for ages, its just that calderon's drug war pinned them against each other. piena nieto won't fck around with any drug war and thats ok with me
Oh please. The only reason PRD is even/ahead of PAN is because Josefina was a mistake. Neither of them will put up a legitimate challenge to PRI this year. Nieto has a lot of dirty laundry and deffects, but too many people turn the other way around instead of hearing it. They want someone as ignorant as them governing them.
Mexico is like California. You look at the candidates and think. No mames, is there anyone else? A lot of people on the EPN train based on his looks. LOL. Despues se quejan.
