Not here to Bale you Out- The Other Teams' Thread - [R]

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  1. cr7torossi

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    #51 cr7torossi, Dec 21, 2013
    The biggest problem for Moyes has been Carrick's long-term absence.
     
  2. fernb8

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    #52 fernb8, Dec 21, 2013
    agreed

    but it seems that you lot are just starting to turn the corner and now you are losing several players to injury

    may actually work for Moyes who seems better with a smaller squad
     
  3. Kerry Dixon's Boots

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    #53 Kerry Dixon's Boots, Dec 21, 2013
    Ah, Mr Bond, we've been expecting you.
     
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  4. fernb8

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    #54 fernb8, Dec 21, 2013
    Utd battering poor West Ham side

    may have a couple of sackings by the end of the week- Cardiff and West Ham
     
  5. Wrath

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    #55 Wrath, Dec 21, 2013
    He is on Ronaldo - Messi level.
     
  6. cr7torossi

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    #56 cr7torossi, Dec 21, 2013
    So far this season. Let's see whether he can even sustain it for a season, leave alone 4-5 seasons in a row as Ronaldo and Messi have done.
     
  7. Wrath

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    #57 Wrath, Dec 21, 2013
    Nothing to suggest his form would dip. I always felt he was let down by mediocre players around him (unlike Ronaldo and Messi).
     
  8. schafer

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    #58 schafer, Dec 21, 2013
    Also not doing it against European opposition and without the grind of European competition. Not many players of Suarez's calibre have the luxury (with regards to their domestic form) of not having to worry about either the CL or Europa League.

    He has been exceptional, though. Don't think the Prem has seen a goalscorer with such a flair for the spectacular since Henry.
     
  9. benficafan3

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    #59 benficafan3, Dec 21, 2013
    FYP
     
  10. schafer

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    #60 schafer, Dec 21, 2013
    Well, you're free to disagree, obviously. I don't think Ronaldo ever quite hit the heights of Henry and now Suarez in terms of style/ingenuity of goalscoring. Not that it really matters, though.
     
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  11. fernb8

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    #61 fernb8, Dec 21, 2013
    for those keeping an eye on the lower Leagues

    things not looking so good for Pompey and unless they get things sorted they face the possibility of going out of the League
     
  12. Kerry Dixon's Boots

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    #62 Kerry Dixon's Boots, Dec 21, 2013
    Really not. Has to be said that their fans are amazingly loyal. They are drawing more than 15,000 a match (to put it in context, that's as much as nearly half of the Championship clubs).

    You can see the disparity here and it's not as though they're seeing quality footy right now.

    http://espnfc.com/stats/attendance/_/league/eng.4/english-league-two?cc=5901
     
  13. fernb8

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    #63 fernb8, Dec 21, 2013
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    no question of their support but I do wonder how much of they will be able to impact results. Have to say that they have backed the team immensely so far, when many others would have cut and run. Just wondering if that is one of the few things keeping them going and ultimately having the best attendance is not going to get them awarded any League point

    it should help them in the long run but Luton Town, one Division, below would be the third best supported team in League One based on attendances
     
  14. Kerry Dixon's Boots

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    #64 Kerry Dixon's Boots, Dec 21, 2013
    You're going to have to help me out with this one mate. Could you elaborate?
     
  15. fernb8

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    #65 fernb8, Dec 21, 2013
    :oops:

    posting on the go

    fixed now
     
  16. Kerry Dixon's Boots

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    #66 Kerry Dixon's Boots, Dec 21, 2013
    Gotcha.

    I would have to think that in two ways the crowd will help. The first of course is gate receipts and my point about loyalty means that although they have to shed some old debts/problems the income going forward should be huge in terms of them rising up the tables.

    They would have to invest much more sensibly, but even a moderate amount of cash in League Two, by and large, is a great thing. Luton, whilst not top, are right up there and should be back soon.

    The other aspect is volume. Clearly home results have not been there so far, but you'd much rather have 15,000 cheering you on than 6,000 and at some point that has to give the team a lift and an edge. Who knows how much 1 point driven by the energy of the crowd (if they can provide it) will mean.

    Bad momentum is very dangerous for a team sliding down the divisions, but it doesn't take much sometimes to reverse that. A late winner in a match could be all it takes.......
     
  17. Walter3000

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    #67 Walter3000, Dec 22, 2013
    I just don't think he's going to keep this pace up
     
  18. Wrath

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    #68 Wrath, Dec 22, 2013
    Put him in Real or Barca, I think he can. To each his own opinion in the end.
     
  19. Naughtius Maximus

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    #69 Naughtius Maximus, Dec 22, 2013
  20. fernb8

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    #70 fernb8, Dec 22, 2013
    in a funny sort of way I think the larger crowds may work against them at times. I find it similar to Luton Town in that the clubs in the Conference treat their away game to Luton Town as their Cup Final- they get to play a former Top Flight club at a nice ground in front of a big crowd and thus generally why Luton has had it shares of struggles to get out of the Conference and back in the League (four years and counting atm). I agree with your remaining points in that the cash revenues are a huge bonus but just looking at the Conference atm it is apparent that there are several former League clubs who suffered similar fates as that similar to Pompey.

    I believe the saving grace for Pompey will be that only two clubs are going down and they should have enough, in terms of talent and support, not be one of those two clubs.
     
  21. schafer

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    #71 schafer, Dec 22, 2013
    Very 'adventurous' line-up from Sherwood against Southampton. Adebayor and Soldado up front with a midfield four of Eriksen, Dembele, Sigurdsson and Lamela.

    Maybe he's not that interested in the job?
     
  22. fernb8

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    #72 fernb8, Dec 22, 2013
    well noted

    think he is trying to break the "shackles" from AVB and hope that they can be the Spurs of old and win some 4-3 games while losing 3-2. Almost any form of entertainment should appease the Spurs fans in the short term.

    Jack Cork starts for Soton.
     
  23. fernb8

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    #73 fernb8, Dec 22, 2013
    this game is either going to be 0-0 or 3-3
     
  24. fernb8

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    #74 fernb8, Dec 22, 2013
    what is Sherwood playing at?
     
  25. Naughtius Maximus

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    #75 Naughtius Maximus, Dec 22, 2013
    Winning the game at the moment. ;)
     
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