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  1. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    when Bermuda of the USL PDL went belly up a few weeks ago, USL PRO should have put Antigua out of their misery at the same time...
     
  2. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Slightly easier to remove a PDL team playing 14 games, almost all in one division than to remove a USL Pro team playing 26 games, against everybody in the league.

    You need fewer teams going away, not more. And besides being teams from island nations, they were not connected, so, no, there was no real need to pull that trigger then.

    Antigua is showing up, which is more than Bermuda was prepared to do. They're terrible, but they only lost 1-0 at Phoenix.
     
  3. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Antigua COULD break the all-time D3 record for fewest goals per game in a full season IF they score five or fewer in their last seven matches. They've got 8, and 14 would keep them off the all-time bottom, but 13 gives them the all-time record (the 2001 Northern Virginia Royals scored just 9 goals in 17 games).

    Oddly enough, last year's Antigua team already has the second-worst goals-per-game average (tied with the 1998 Tallahassee Tempest at .67 per game) in D3 history (since 1996).

    They're not going to get the all-time goals-against-per-game record (the 1998 Eastern Shore Sharks gave up an even 5 goals per game) because they'd have to give up 130 goals, so they'd have to allow 69 more in the last 7 games and that's not going to happen.

    The 2005 Northern Virginia Royals and aforementioned 1998 Eastern Shore Sharks each had goal differentials of -74. Antigua is at -53, so I don't think they can get there in seven games, but you never know.

    The more you look at it, that 1998 Eastern Shore team was really the worst team ever in D3 before this year. They went 0-18, scored 16 goals and gave up 90, and their leading scorer, someon named Todd Pettigrew, had four goals. Their goalie who played the most minutes had a 6.67 GAA.

    They lost games 2-0, 5-0, 5-2, 7-0, 7-1, 3-0, 7-0, 5-0, 5-1, 5-0, 3-2, 1-0, 5-1, 2-1 (ot), 2-0, 2-0, 7-0, 10-2, 5-2, 7-2, 8-2, 3-2 and 5-0. So they were shut out 12 times.

    With nowhere to go but up, they went 2-16 (scoring 18 goals and giving up 81) in 1999, apparently beating Delaware twice (2-1 in overtime on May 1 and 4-3 in shootout on July 30) and Northern Virginia (3-2 on July 16), but one of those can't be right as they only won two games, ever. They lost at South Jersey 11-0 on August 7, 1999. The South Jersey Barons are, today, the Ocean City Nor'Easters and play near where the Sharks played.
     
  4. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    (Just to close the loop, Eastern Shore's 2-1 overtime win at Delaware on 5/1/1999 was in a non-league game, a US Open Cup qualifier back when they used to have special games just for that purpose. The 3-2 win at Northern Virginia on July 16 and the 4-3 shootout win against Delaware at home two weeks later were the only league wins in the history of the up-til-now worst D3 team ever.)
     
  5. the shelts

    the shelts Member+

    Jun 30, 2005
    Providence RI
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    I counted 77 fans.
     
    brentgoulet and ManuSooner repped this.
  6. Macsen

    Macsen Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 5, 2007
    Orlando
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, Phoenix has hit rock bottom.

    They gave Antigua a point.
     
  7. Hararea

    Hararea Member+

    Jan 21, 2005
    This game is still underway
     
  8. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is when they make their come back. ;)
     
  9. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do you know how long soccer games are? Or can you not tell on Google Maps?
     
  10. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Antigua is, without question, the worst team ever at this level. I think the 1998 Eastern Shore Sharks would beat them.
     
  11. Macsen

    Macsen Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 5, 2007
    Orlando
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They posted a match report on the USL website before the match was over.
     
  12. Offebacher

    Offebacher Member

    May 14, 2006
    Houston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A few details on wages (or the lack thereof) http://www.antiguaobserver.com/more-government-funding-for-cudas/

    Can you say life support to play out the string?
     
  13. ColeWCAR

    ColeWCAR Member

    Jun 6, 2013
    Indiana
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeaaaah, there's no way they're coming back next season. They can't even pay their players, so I can't even imagine what unknown money problems they have. No way on earth USLPro will renew their contract with the league.
     
  14. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They are not the only team for which that is true.

    $40,000, though? That's all? And they said they could have gotten by on half that? Well, by this point, and if you don't pay your players, sure.

    And they took another 6-0 drubbing last night. If they score five goals or fewer in the last six games, they'll be the lowest-scoring DIII team of all time (and I might take that bet). And with their goal differential now at -64, that all-time record (-74) is within reach.
     
  15. ColeWCAR

    ColeWCAR Member

    Jun 6, 2013
    Indiana
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh wow, they're only -10 from beating the record? With 6 games left? Are you kidding me?

    I don't think there's ANY way they don't break that record.. BUT, they so play both Dayton and Rochester, whom they've scored against.
     
  16. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    8 goals in 20 games, so they should score about 3 goals in the last six (even that is optimistic, rounding). 74 goals allowed in 20 games, so they should allow about 22 in the last six. Yeah, they should clear that pretty well.
     
  17. ColeWCAR

    ColeWCAR Member

    Jun 6, 2013
    Indiana
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. blacksun

    blacksun Member+

    Mar 30, 2006
    Seoul, Korea
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At least they will (probably) keep goals allowed in double digits.
     
  19. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It'll be close. Could they allow 28 goals in the last six? They could, certainly. They won't get the goals allowed per game record, but they will get most of the others.
     
  20. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They could go all the way.... !!!!
     
  21. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    0-26-0, -80 GD. Good lord.
     
  22. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. MLSinSTL

    MLSinSTL Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Mar 20, 2009
    Ohio - near a city
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    Ohhhh barracuda....
     

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