No News Too Small - The Bizarre Bazaar of Miscellany and More

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  1. Republic of Mancunia

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    A.K.A. "The I'm not sure where to post it thread, part something-or-other"

    If you don't think it's worth starting a thread over, or are unsure where to put it then whack it in here!

    Continued from here.


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    Re: No News Too Small - The Treasure Trove of Miscellaneous Messages

    I am going to take a leave tomorrow...I am nervous wreck already....Whats up with you RoM??...How's your work now a days??...
  3. Republic of Mancunia

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    Just beginning to feel the nerves/the buzz about the match too. Not sure why it's took me so long, but I'm getting there slowly!

    Work's alright, it's neither good nor bad, just bang in the middle.

    P.S. changed the thread title, I like this better.
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    I want Carol Vord's bum back! :mad:


  5. cr7torossi

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    Moving apartments over the weekend so taking a couple of days off; however procrastination will be the order of the day so will be here a lot more.

    Anyways, it is not that relevant anymore (see above) and that debate has since passed but I should have mentioned that the point was made for the current Rio so what you suggest wouldn't have helped.
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    Well the truth is that the "evidence" of Rio's pace is only there to be seen is by what you can't see. We play a high line when he plays and his pace is part of that. However his reading of the game and the emergence of partners who don't require as much handholding and rescuing means he is less exposed. All of the above is amplified or minimized depending on how you look at it by the emergence of Michael Carrick the only DM Rio's every played with.

    With a solid partner, Rio with his reading of the game and limited games, he can probably play till 35 at a very high level.
  7. cr7torossi

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    so essentially there is no evidence to show that Rio is still pretty damn fast.
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    Practice footage I suppose. When last has he been exposed in space? It has been years.
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    A hurt Rio kept up pretty well with Bellamy when he scored that goal last season. :eek:
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    That would be used as evidence to the contrary
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    Nah, Bellamy is really fast and Rio was far from fit at the time and he still kept up pretty well.
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    Bellamy smoked him. Granted he was injured and whatnot, so its not particularly meaningful.

    Cant off the top of my head remember an example this season where Rio has had to keep up with a pacey striker.

    The only thing that comes to mind from this season is Smalling matching (catching up lol) a few pacey players.
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    Rio has lost more than a few steps, sadly.

    He's still way quicker than the average, but he's not close to what he used to be, anymore, imo.

    If he used to be a 90/100 he's about an 82 now.
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    I can, and if it wasn't for his uber positioning, it would've been a disaster.

    Can't recall the match at the moment. Will come to me later, I suppose/hope.
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    Happy 102nd Birthday, Sir Matt Busby.:)
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    so essentially I am waging a losing battle here :(
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    Well, a few years ago, Rio could keep pace with the likes of Henry stride for stride. A striker with the pace that Henry used to have would outstrip Rio quite comfortably over a distance now. Imo, of course.

    He masks it well by barely having to get into key sprints, but the two times I remember him doing it with quick forwards (Bellamy and some dude this season can't recall who) he was comfortably beaten - even did the Vidic-esque panic flail.
  18. Amdrag

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    Are you talking about the penalty he gave up?
  19. cr7torossi

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    The whole Bellamy goal was his conclusive proof of Rio being slow.

    It seems that I missed the part when Rio lost his pace.
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    I would say probably the tail end of 2008, when his back really started acting up.
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    I really can't remember which game it was - he hasn't played that many, but I missed a few match threads and had intention of mentioning it when it happened but completely forgot by the time I logged back in and it was a distant memory in a topsy turvy season, but I know for sure he got burned comfortably and exhibited genuine panic that resorts in tha t wide-eyed panicky flail players tend to do.

    In fact, it was the flailing that made me take note.

    I don't think any one incident can be used as conclusive proof, but it certainly is the first indent in the mind that makes you take note in future. Especially as it used to be unheard of for any striker to burn Rio. Beat him in a race? Sure, some extremely quick Martins-esque players could, but not burn him and make him flail.

    The combination of the back and groin injuries and the natural aging process are going to take their toll on such an athlete every time. Nesta's pace declined off the same kind of sequence, too.

    Because Rio's positioning is the best, bar none, I never brought it up as an individual issue/thread because he's still surpreme at his job and has compensated for the loss without any fuss at all, as opposed to Nesta, who looks like half the player he used to be these days.
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    DS, I think that you might be talking about the Everton game.

    Anichebe got the turn on Rio and burned him for pace. Rio almost gave away the penalty, and some neutrals probably think it was a penalty. He tried to pull him back when he got burned for pace.

    Here's a link to the game report.

    http://www.manutd.com/en/Fixtures-And-Results/Match-Reports/2011/Apr/United-v-Everton-report.aspx?pageNo=4

    Here's the quote from the report about it.

    "Everton were by far more competitive as a result of their changes, however, and the pace of Anichebe took him away from Ferdinand and into the United area."
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    Best clip i can find so far DS. It's not good, but it might tweek your memory.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRihK4MwFOU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRihK4MwFOU[/ame]

    At 28 seconds in.
  24. cr7torossi

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    Boo... that was very vidic-esque indeed.
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    @James. Could well be that game.
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