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  1. Kalouda

    Kalouda Member

    Dec 18, 2010
    London
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Yeah, they're Steam's. Had them in turfs, pretty awful tbh, the upper was very tough.
     
  2. appleCORR7

    appleCORR7 Member+

    Jul 3, 2004
    UK
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    The West Bromwich outlet also has those Vapors but in AG. They also had the HV but the sizes were MASSIVE!

    The sock is really comfy its just when the elastic moves a bit and it over tighten's on the back of your ankle and it really hurts. I'd hate to get that in a game.

    appleCORR
     
  3. Bootboy

    Bootboy Member

    Oct 23, 2007
    North London
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I've had the pleasure of trying them on, I'll say you shouldn't judge the boot until you've tried it - its a an unreal fit. The yarn used is really flexible around the ankle so fits very comfortably - and makes your whole foot/ankle/leg work as a unit….just wait until you can test a pair out #footballwillneverbethesame
     
  4. appleCORR7

    appleCORR7 Member+

    Jul 3, 2004
    UK
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Oh my eyes have been opened since wearing the trainers. They have the same foot/ankle unit and feel amazing plus the upper really allows your foot to breathe. I take it you have been wearing socks with the boots? but the trainers are so comfortable. Can't wait to try a pair out.

    Cleaning wise does it look like its going to be a pain in the ass though?

    appleCORR
     
  5. FootySpy

    FootySpy Member

    Oct 22, 2012
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nike's January colorways (high quality)
    Magista will resemble the Hypervenom, but light green will replace the blue.
    Please excuse the watermarks.
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  6. littlepeaface

    littlepeaface New Member

    Nov 5, 2013
    Club:
    AA Coruripe
    i have a pair of hypervenoms. having 2 problems with it.
    1.) the sole plate seems stiff even after 2 sessions of sprinting
    2.) the upper material is kinda too rubbery, too much friction that the ball sometimes sticks too much to the ball, causing me to trip while dribbling.

    should i stick it out?
     
  7. GrassRouteOne

    GrassRouteOne Member

    Jun 10, 2010
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Both issues should get a little better in time.

    Soleplate - Don't go sprinting in them; jog about and do some light training in them, really focus on getting that plate moving and bending under the balls of your feet. It's a Nylon blend so won't be as stubborn as, say, Carbon/Glass fibre.

    Upper - You might be the first person I've heard of to have this issue! As with any upper, it will start to wear off with more you wear them!
     
  8. Dr. Boots

    Dr. Boots Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    So my bones, tendons, ligaments, skin, and neuro receptors that have developed over millions of years of evolution don't cause my whole foot/ankle/leg to work as a unit?

    #nikebettersevolutionwithyarnyeahright #imdrinkingthekoolaid #ihavenoideawhatimactuallysaying #spewingpusedosciencewordvomit
     
  9. Dr. Boots

    Dr. Boots Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Want to see the medial side of the Legend. Wishing for no color blocking.
     
  10. GrassRouteOne

    GrassRouteOne Member

    Jun 10, 2010
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Dat cynicism.

    There's only so much you can write about a boot that you haven't extensively tested, but @Bootboy's absolutely right about the fit being next level.

    I think the point he's trying to make is a lot of football boots have their consideration of the body begin and end with the foot; maybe a soleplate the considers making rotational forces easier on the knees like the Umbro Geometra or Asics HG10mm for the lower back, but that's about it.

    The Magista fits like nothing I've tried on before, but it doesn't stop at the foot - it carries on up the ankle and compresses the calf at the bottom - it's a drastically different feel for a boot than we're used to and is exciting to see on the market.
     
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  11. Dr. Boots

    Dr. Boots Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I'm not bagging the boot from a fit standpoint. It very well could be next level - although that is subjective to the user - and the knit concept makes sense for a near bespoke fit from a mass produced item. I get that part. The whole system might feel like one flexible unit (as well it should considering it covers a significant joint that makes up a huge aspect of movement), but that does not and will not make your leg, foot and ankle work as "one unit" because it already does that - assuming your body is not malfunctioning - thanks to your musculoskeletal system.

    At best you could say the boot works better in union with your natural musculoskeletal function than a standard boot, which at worst could actually hinder function.

    My problem is/was/always will be rhetoric used in this way by companies and the lack of science, education, and critical thinking applied by the consumer when they are being fed shit with a spoon.
     
  12. Bootboy

    Bootboy Member

    Oct 23, 2007
    North London
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Yeah even with just a gym sock its still super comfortable and natural - as far as cleaning goes, the boot has a 0.1mm layer of NikeSkin melted onto it - so the majority of it will just wipe clean….although there are some areas without it on for added breathability…not sure how those will clean! But the yarn is polyester rather than wool so it shouldn't be too bad with staining! (the magista only absorbs around 6% water)

    No, but if you step out of football and look to running, about 10 years ago the whole 'barefoot' running revolution came in, and there were huge skeptics about that, but now its considered by many to be the best way to run. The Magista allows for a natural range of motion while playing, while still giving you a feeling that all 3 of the aforementioned elements are working in harmony…honestly all I can say is wait until you've tried them out #proofisintheplaying
     
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  13. Dr. Boots

    Dr. Boots Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    You can't compare barefoot walking/running with a compression sock that runs up your leg. Humans evolved to move barefoot, only since we invented shoes and orthotics have we hindered that and reversed the expression of our genetics. Barefoot running has been around since we drug our knuckles walking and in many parts of the world it is still the only way people run because they don't have access or funds for Air Max/Torsion Control/Motion Stability shoes. Barefoot running shoes in true form allow the foot to sit in its natural position, thus support is provided by the foot and your other stabilizing systems from the ground up. All a true barefoot shoe does is provide coverage to the foot from potential surface injury - think stepping on glass or stubbing on concrete.

    This is a sock that goes up the ankle and does what exactly in terms of range of motion other than feel compressed and possibly pull the boot when rotating the ankle? It doesn't improve your natural range of motion at all, if anything it could even restrict it - or worse case injury - if the fit is poor.

    I'm not having a go at you personally. I think whole concept is pretty interesting, but it's not going to improve much of anything in my opinion. It's just another way to get kids to buy overpriced boots.
     
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  14. GrassRouteOne

    GrassRouteOne Member

    Jun 10, 2010
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    I dunno, @Dr. Boots - I think there's a huge amount you're asking for in what you want from the footwear industry. I was a little disparaging of the cynicism - It's healthy, we should be questioning everything that's put in front of us as consumers.

    As a big gamer, there's a paradigm shift amongst a lot of people about what games and consoles they buy and why - the result of more voices in the conversation and a greater amount of resources with which to educate themselves with, resulting in savvier consumers. People are starting to vote with their wallets on things like DRM and microtransactions.

    However, I do think the football boot market is probably too specialist to have the same thing happen in the short term. The rhetoric between brands and consumers will stay the same at least until the generation below us grows up having had boots be such a huge part of the football experience for them.

    But @Bootboy's comments were on the fit which - as you said to me - is subjective; if his opinion on it happens to line up with Nike's narrative, I don't think implying his view is 'pseudoscience word vomit' is healthy in educating anyone who might read it.

    He's an active member of this board with a lot to say; ask him some more questions and press further to help drive that conversation forward in a constructive manner if you're not satisfied with the initial post.
     
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  15. stphnsn

    stphnsn Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    why the hell do they call the legend vs crimson? it's not crimson. it's orange.
     
  16. noob-bob

    noob-bob Member

    Jul 23, 2010
    Club:
    IF Brommapojkarna
    Are humans able to run without shoes? Yes.
    Will your ankle joint stop working if you don't wear supersocks? No.
     
  17. appleCORR7

    appleCORR7 Member+

    Jul 3, 2004
    UK
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I have been saying since day 1 of getting the boot that i found the sole plate too stiff it feels like it belongs on a different boot especially with the super thin upper of the HV. I also got really bad stud pressure from the sole too. But it does get better, the upper for these boots is designed for out of the box wear but the sole plate certainly isn't. Once you have broken them in you will be fine. Just give them a few goes and don't go all out in them.

    The upper? I'm not actually sure if I like the waxy upper the ball just skims off it when its wet. I've never really found it too grippy and I've been playing a lot on AG turf.

    Both things will get better as someone said - don't give up on them after 2 sessions just because you don't think they need to be broken in. You will regret it.

    appleCORR
     
  18. markeyfifa

    markeyfifa New Member

    Apr 14, 2014
    Hey guys,

    I got new nike maestri 3 boots recently in size 7.5 and is a bit tight(need wider and slighty longer shoe). I wear my flyknit lunar at size 8 and they are quite loose. I need them for a game in 4 days time and need some tips to break them in quickly. I have read about hair dryer method, hot water method, newspaper method and steaming them method. I need to know which is the best way and if there are any other better methods. I do not have much time spare to wears my boots because I am in school the whole day.

    Thanks in advance
     
  19. Space bar

    Space bar Member

    Jul 7, 2013
    Club:
    Michigan Bucks
    I don't know the characteristics of kanga lite but I would wear them whenever you're outside of school. I would wear them during a nap, dinner, in the bathroom, and everywhere in between. My adipowers were a little small and I did that and it helped a lot although the adipowers are leather. If it doesn't work, get used to it or get something a little cheaper and sell the maestris later.
     
  20. markeyfifa

    markeyfifa New Member

    Apr 14, 2014
    Space bar, thanks for the advice but don't think its a great idea cos mum will not let me bring em inside, even if they are new
     
  21. football123098

    Nov 10, 2013
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Maybe try the hot water trick.
     
  22. markeyfifa

    markeyfifa New Member

    Apr 14, 2014
    Heard it kinda makes the glue melt so :/ thanks football anyway
     
  23. littlepeaface

    littlepeaface New Member

    Nov 5, 2013
    Club:
    AA Coruripe
    both the soleplate and the grippy upper is putting me off... been using my old pair of premiers... do wanna break into my hypervenoms though!
     
  24. chivamex10

    chivamex10 Member+

    Mar 1, 2010
    your mom's house
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
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    Honestly I wouldn't even bother using them for game time if you're less than a week away. Kanga lite does not stretch. It does soften up over time but that's about it.

    My advice:
    -shoe trees.
    -Grow a pair and tell your mum you're wearing them inside the house.
    -Take a bath with them on.
    -Go in dry
     
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