News: Islanders Will Sit Out Spring, Too

Discussion in 'NASL' started by kenntomasch, Dec 21, 2012.

  1. cdskou

    cdskou Member

    Sep 17, 2012
    Club:
    Olympiakos Piraeus
    Ken: Come on buddy. Go back and do the research from 1974 and on and please list all the soccer club's who have exceptionally well and then poof, gone. You are really good at listing stats.

    In regard to Orlando, Kenny boy, I think you know from your experience what will happen to the 6,500 fan's they do have. I think you know it is just a matter of time.

    San Antonio, well good for them. Let us hope from 9,000 today they will improve immensely over the years.
     
  2. Prosoccercdn

    Prosoccercdn Member+

    Aug 6, 2011
    Club:
    FC Edmonton
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I re-read the article on NASL.COM and I wouldn't be surprised if PRI doesn't play in 2013 at all. They say " Our goal at this moment" is to play in August. Not very definate, and then the next paragraph says "The League will play the spring schedule with seven teams and then be joined by the New York Cosmos for the start of the fall season". No mention of PRI for fall season there.

    NASL is hopefully scrambling to get another team in for the 2013 spring season somehow. All looked so good recently with Cosmos coming in for 2013 then their half season announcement and now PRI's announcement. Get rid of this split season format after 2013 for sure!
     
  3. Macsen

    Macsen Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 5, 2007
    Orlando
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How is the USSF going to allow this?
     
  4. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Better question: how could they not?
     
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  5. WhiteStar Warriors

    Mar 25, 2007
    St.Pete/Krakow
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    worry about OC being affiliated with a MLS team next year.
     
  6. Macsen

    Macsen Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 5, 2007
    Orlando
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Their Division II standards. The NASL will only have seven teams for half the season. They need a minimum of eight without yet another provisional waiver. Who's going to take that seriously?

    Three letters: VSI. Of course, this keeps up, they may be Ralph's only option before long (if they're lucky).

    Have fun with that.
     
  7. mng146

    mng146 Member

    Jul 19, 2011
    Rochester, NY
    And this folks, is another example of what hijacking a thread and throwing garbage everywhere looks like. From the guy who wrote the blueprint. :thumbsup:
     
  8. WhiteStar Warriors

    Mar 25, 2007
    St.Pete/Krakow
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    VSI is vaporware here, nothing's happening.

    Ask Rawlins why he wants games with Rowdies because his beloved USL will be a farm system to MLS.
     
  9. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You've missed my point.

    "Their Division II standards" said ten teams by year three. They have nine. Or eight. Or seven. But they were only going to have nine even if the Cosmos and Islanders played in the spring.

    My point is this: so, you're USSF. Pretty easy to say, "We aren't going to allow this."

    Then what? Pull their sanctioning? Kill second division soccer? After they've bent over backwards from the start of this to make sure it survives?

    Considering USSF was silent on the Cosmos thing, they can't exactly pretend they weren't tacitly okay with that plan. And considering the split-season thing hasn't been done here yet, the NASL could say, "Well, we're going to have nine teams and you were okay with that, it's just a few months." They could say that.

    USSF's options, very preliminarily:

    1 - Tell the NASL, "No, sorry, that's not happening" and then....what?
    2 - Tell the NASL, "You're going to provide ten (or nine) teams in both halves. You figure out how to get the Cosmos and Islanders on the field starting in March."
    3 - Pull their sanctioning. Kill the second division. Throw the thing into chaos.

    Got any others?
     
  10. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ooh, this is your new meme!

    As usual, you've missed the point, you're just throwing shit against a wall that has nothing behind it, and you're dodging the real issues.

    First off, you calling anyone a moron is high comedy.

    Second off, no, we really don't. We actually don't want the NASL to fold. We want you to shut up.
     
  11. WhiteStar Warriors

    Mar 25, 2007
    St.Pete/Krakow
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    what real issue?

    This is how lower division operates in US since they started and NASL is TRYING to do somethin right, be it split-season so a team doesn't fold.

    Check your statistics Kenn how many teams folded in U.S. compared to other countries in that same period of time?
     
  12. cdskou

    cdskou Member

    Sep 17, 2012
    Club:
    Olympiakos Piraeus
    Second division? Your delusional. What second division? 7 teams and the whole NASL is on shaky ground. Sanctioning? Come on Ken, it is already in chaos. Please....
     
  13. cdskou

    cdskou Member

    Sep 17, 2012
    Club:
    Olympiakos Piraeus
    It is
    No ken. You are wrong again.Talk for yourself.
    We do not want the NASL to fold or the USL - pro to fold either. Nor do we want the MLS having the issues they are having at this moment with some of there franchises.
    We would like for the USSF to run a normal soccer league that includes pro/rel. Simple.
    We have seen franchise after franchise fold, out of business.
    If the USSF keeps this approach guarantee the NASL and the USL pro club's will not last much longer. It has even hurt the National team's of the United States at the various age groups.
    This is the United States, not some third world country which does not have any money.
    The USSF has to look at the whole set up from the youth pay to play structure and culture all the way through the pro game. Carlos Quiroz report was great. The Quiroz report authored by Quiroz in about 1999. The USSF paid him quite a bit of money. I guess though nobody read it or listened to him. Not saying, I or even yourself really know everything that Quiroz knew.
    The whole ball of wax here in regard to the USSF has to be restructured. It will be painful but it needs to be done.
     
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  14. jhope

    jhope BigSoccer Supporter

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Mar 18, 1999
    San Antonio, TX USA
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another option for US soccer is to take away D2 sanctioning and ask NASL to apply for D3 provisional for 2013.
     
  15. WhiteStar Warriors

    Mar 25, 2007
    St.Pete/Krakow
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why should they? it's not like someone can come along and start another D2 league.
     
  16. Jewelz510

    Jewelz510 Member+

    Feb 19, 2011
    Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. RutgerATL

    RutgerATL Member

    Nov 10, 2009
    Decatur, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is until some team can't seem to make it for the fall.
     
  18. brentgoulet

    brentgoulet Member+

    Oct 12, 2005
    PuertoPlata, DomRep
    oh boy, things are getting worse by the minute :(

    maybe time for an official ''how many teams will play the apertura and how many teams will play the clausura'' thread :D
     
  19. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Easy swap spots on the pyramid with the USL Pro since they are looking at starting an affiliate system with MLS. Problem solved.
     
  20. WhiteStar Warriors

    Mar 25, 2007
    St.Pete/Krakow
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We have pro/rel: Islanders and Cosmos relegated spring season. Promoted fall season.
     
  21. teucer

    teucer Member

    Dec 17, 2009
    Raleigh, NC, USA
    Club:
    Carolina Railhawks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NASL pushed for there to be D2 standards and is putting in a serious effort to meet them, but hasn't yet made it a reality. Whether the fact that it's trying and meets most of the requirements merits a waiver or not is a question USSF will have to decide on. But what's definitely not happening is putting somebody else in the D2 slot. USL Pro has shown no interest in meeting the D2 standards, and stopped asking for D2 sanctioning immediately after the USSF announced them. Making it clear you're not even on track to try to meet the standards because you don't want to is not going to impress the federation into giving you a waiver for D2 sanctioning, affiliate system or no.
     
  22. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's even dumber the second time you posted it, in another thread.
     
  23. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Whatever the issue is that you constantly dodge when you're proven wrong.

    No, that's not the reason they did it. In none of their public statements about why they did it was "so a team doesn't fold" mentioned.

    I'm still waiting for you to tell me one legend created by pro/rel. But you don't have time.

    You do, however, have time to consult wikipedia, which is where you get all of your non-podcast information.

    So how many people need to point out how wrong you are before you admit it?
     
  24. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How many USLPRO teams meet D2 standards?

    Kind of dumb to replace a league that does not meet D2 standards with another league that also does not meet the standards.

    worst case we get 2 competing D3 leagues.


    I wonder what the dude that bought Minnesota is thinking. (Something like what did I get my self into).
     

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