Okay it kills me how Much shit the guys on the SoccerSam show talks crap about the NASL. When the NASL Finishes the season and is getting ready for the its second season lets all give them calls and Make fun of them. And After every NASL season we continue this.
I find it funny if anyone is talking crap considering the soccer landscape in North America. MLS is only now seeing a handful of teams becoming profitable, D2 has just gone through a major transition with one entity involved in financing half of the teams and running the league, and USL is putting on a good face but is seemingly up to business as usual when it comes to D3. I wonder what those clowns will think if/when the LA Blues fold after this season, even during it, thanks to ridiculous travel costs. They are in a division with 4 Caribbean teams. And every other team in USL-Pro is on the East Coast. I'm sure having to fly to Los Angeles, Puerto Rico and Antigua was not what Rochester and Charleston signed up for when they dropped down to D3. I would not be surprised at all to see one or more teams in addition to LA become casualties thanks to travel expenses. Heck, if they are gonna have to travel to Puerto Rico and across the continent anyway, the Battery and Rhinos might as well join NASL.
Exactly. The one thing that made D3 more appealing has been taken from them. I'd say I hope they wise up and see that USL isn't in this for the teams, but NASL is looking like enough of an odd duck league this year that if I were Charleston or Rochester I'd give it a couple years before deciding where I wanted to be long-term.
The same Sam Fantauzzo rumoured a few weeks ago that the Rowdies were about to fold, that their players had not been paid and bla bla bla. But the only rumour that turned out to be true is that his pizzas taste like shit
Honestly, if you're that upset about what one weekend radio talk show host in Rochester says, you really need to reevaluate your life. Why does what he thinks matter so much to you?
Because TRUE soccer investors/fans should work together, and not spread baseless rumours around or bash other soccer leagues
These guys in Rochester have been spreading rumors and defacing NASL. So i will be the first one to call them after the season.
OK tell me this do you think it's counter-productive to have 2 teams in the same city,? especially since both products are weak. example: Sources have told IMS that Fort Lauderdale was that team and would have been in direct competition with the NASL’s franchise that has been in the South Florida market since 2006. IMS was also told that there was a lack of organization within the Fort Lauderdale group. The group also had additional problems with a new investor to the organization that didn’t happen or didn’t get done in time. and also in San Antonio? and also while we are on this topic, what was the purpose of moving Austin to Orlando?
The new investors wanted it there. Which means the alternative was not getting new investors, which likely would have meant the team dying. Under those circumstances, I see no reason not to move it.
If I were you, I wouldn't bother to listen to them or waste your time worrying about them. They've proven to be 1st rate arse-clowns with their words, ignore them. Absolutely correct. Is it a coincidence that Charleston seems to have gotten off the easiest by far with the insanely wacky USL schedule, and that the Rhinos are in much better shape than most of the other clubs? To me it seems as if the USL has put the heaviest burden on the teams that were the riskiest propositions to begin with - the entire "international" division. I will be shocked beyond belief if at least two of these clubs don't either fold or drop out of USL Pro by the end this season. Those of us who have lived in South Florida for a long period and who are a part of the soccer watching community need do only one thing regarding rumors of a USL franchise in Ft. Lauderdale - laugh our collective arses off. My money is squarely on one thing being the reason the 2011 USL Ft. Lauderdale franchise was abandoned - there was at least one person with decision making authority that has at least half a brain. Trying to compete with the return of the Ft. Lauderdale Strikers is pitiful at best. It's like USL was insistent on trying to p!ss in the wind of a Category 2 hurricane. LOL If someone in this area is that desperate to just throw away money, I'll provide my address and they can just send a check to me. No way any pro soccer franchise in D3 is going to compete here with the Strikers, no chance at all. Unfortunately San Antonio does not have the brand tradition and recognition behind it with the Scorpions that the Strikers do. That situation is going to come down to whether or not SS&E decide to go ahead and compete. If they do, my belief is the Crocketeers will then ultimately decide the fate of whether or not ANY team survives there. They will probably have to choose one to guide the fanbase toward, because no city is going to support two minor league pro soccer teams. There just isn't enough demand.
Nothing wrong with this, USL-pro, NASL and MLS can have multiple teams in a city, I do not see anything wrong with that.
If the city can really support that many, sure. LA can pull it off; heck, USL seems to think LA can support three. But remember, soccer fans are kind of a niche market in America right now; it's hard to really imagine either San Antonio or Ft. Lauderdale truly backing two teams.
I can't speak for San Antonio, but I can guarantee that South Florida cannot support two, we can barely support one. And that one is now going to be the Strikers, the most popular and only successful soccer brand in the history of South Florida. This proposed USL-Pro team would have had no chance. A USL-Pro team MIGHT have a sliver of a chance if they located it, ironically, back where Miami FC used to play, at Tropical Park or FIU. Considering some of the flat out idiotic anti-Fort Lauderale sentiments I've seen spewed on Facebook and here on BS in regards to both the Strikers name and a possible MLS return, there may be a chance for a successful derby sort of thing down here. BUT, considering the two clubs would be playing in different divisions and would rarely play, and the overall terrible support Miami has shown for pro soccer in the past, there is very little chance they would suddenly rally behind an American D3 club. In San Antonio it just seems like USL-Pro coming in only hurts both operations. They'll be coming into existence the same year, splitting some of the fans, no rivalry/derby atmosphere would develop because of the different divisions the teams play in, and in the end, one or both of the clubs probably folds.
Get a large passionate fanbase and the sponsorship follows... but only for as many teams as it's worth partnering with for marketing.
Yes, but USL and NASL are different companies, so USSF has no reason, right to tell one to stay out of the market of the other, shit if USL and/or NASL want to they have the right to expand to MLS cities. Just because it is not smart, it does not mean USSF should make it illegal. I would like for USL to not be like that and stay away from NASL cities, but they have the right to be.
Agreed. They should be allowed, despite the fact that it is bad for soccer in America for them to do so.
I don't think anyone is suggesting USSF step in and stop USL from trying to put a franchise in an NASL market, or vice versa. Drsoflafan and I are talking about a USL team not having a chance of suriving here as anything other then a bleeding cash machine. The local pro soccer fanbase is not going to abandon the history and tradition of the Ft. Lauderdale Strikers to attend a USL D3 team. Won't happen. Let USL try, as I said, if they are that desperate to burn money, I'll be happy to send them my address and they can send the cash to me instead. USL trying to place a team in San Antonio is a different story though. The Scorpions don't have the Strikers brand recognition history to buoy them over any USL efforts. And while it is definitely bad for lower division soccer in this country and shows USL is still way too interested in trying to hurt NASL rather than get on with its own business, it is certainly SS&E's right to try if they want.
Yeah, I haven't seen that suggestion in this thread. And I'd be opposed to it if it came up. But what USL is doing is still stupid.
the only thing i think the USSF should do is set new standards for D3 soccer to put pressure on the USL so that they will be to busy worrying about their own league rather then trying to blindside the NASL.
Except they didn't really blindside NASL with San Antonio. They've been talking with the Spurs for awhile. Both sides knew that. The problem is Hartman wants to run a minor league soccer team to fund his theme park. There's no problem with that and it's very noble. However, minor league teams don't make money and the Spurs can afford to not make a profit.
So can Hartman and he is talking about a long term Profitability. Hartman got to where he is today by being a savvy Business man. I'm very sure that he knows that it won't profit for a while, at the same time Hartman is very well liked down here for willing to help those in need. I'm very confident that the Community will support his efforts. Plus his efforts doesn't that away from our children education.
