New and improved Season Ticket Holder Count

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by profiled, May 17, 2012.

  1. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not a hard number, but according to an article in the Dispatch yesterday, the Crew's numbers are continuing to grow:
    http://www.dispatch.com/content/sto...ees-big-year-ahead-for-crew-on-field-off.html
    The goal mentioned above is 10K season tickets.
     
  2. fuzzx

    fuzzx Member+

    Feb 4, 2012
    Brossard
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    According to SoccerPlusFR #MLS : Les WhitecapsFC ont vendu plus de 13 000 abonnements de saison pour 2013, à 1500 billets des guichets fermés samedi vs torontoFC

    13000 season tickets sold for the whitecaps, and 1500 seats away from a sellout for the opening game.

    No source listed.
     
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  3. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  4. Shopping Cart Man

    Sep 21, 2006
    Jacksonville, FL
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Two terms:

    Ticket holder accounts
    Ticket Holders

    The only reason ticket holder accounts mattered is that the jersey had one name per account, not one name per ticket. So if you had a family of 4 with season tickets you were allowed to put one name on the jersey (The Smith Family for example). If you had 1 season ticket on your account (like me) you were able to put one name on the jersey (Jason Maxwell).

    So there are about 1500 names on the jersey, because that's how many accounts there are. There are just under 4200 season ticket holders though (It was about 3600 last year when the names were taken).
     
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  6. Shopping Cart Man

    Sep 21, 2006
    Jacksonville, FL
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Account" was the word I was missing. Thanks.
     
  7. Kappa74

    Kappa74 Member+

    Feb 2, 2010
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    http://www.sportsradiokjr.com/playe...t&program_id=elise_and_jerry.xml&mid=22937071
    I'm sure you have seen this elsewhere, but Adrian was on KJR this morning and stated that the numbers of season ticket holders would remain unchanged for 2013. So if I'm reading all this correct...
    2009 @ 22K
    2010-13 @32K
     
  8. Daniel from Montréal

    Aug 4, 2000
    Montréal
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  9. OleGunnar20

    OleGunnar20 Member+

    Dec 7, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    i am pretty sure that the idea behind this is that the list and this thread just keeps going and is updated anytime new information comes out ... so that at any given time we have an up to date season ticket holder count list with a link to the source of the most recent information.
     
  10. Macsen

    Macsen Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 5, 2007
    Orlando
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It does say 2013. Perhaps we need a 2013 thread? Either that, or trunc the date off it, or make it 2012-13.
     
  11. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I'd say start a new thread the information hasn't been gathered for a while and collated and i'm too lazy to do it right now.
     
  12. OleGunnar20

    OleGunnar20 Member+

    Dec 7, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC

    CONFIRMED:
    Seattle Sounders FC --------- 32,000 (2013)
    Sporting Kansas City --------- ~16,000 (2013)
    Portland Timbers FC --------- 15,250(2013)
    Toronto FC ------------------- 14,400 (2013)
    Vancouver Whitecaps FC ---- 13,000(2013)
    Philadelphia Union - 12,000-13,000 (2011)
    Houston Dynamo ------------ 12,000 (2012)
    Los Angeles Galaxy ----------- 8,500(2013)
    Montreal Impact -------------- 7,500 (2013)
    Real Salt Lake --------- 7,000-8,000(2011)
    Red Bull New York ----------- ~7,000 (2012)
    Chicago Fire ------------------- 6,000 (2012)
    Columbus Crew --------------- 5,000 (2012)
    Colorado Rapids -------------- 4,175(2013)
    San Jose Earthquakes --------- 4,000 (2012)

    UNCONFIRMED:

    MISSING:
    Chivas USA, DC United, FC Dallas, NE Revolution,​
     
  13. OleGunnar20

    OleGunnar20 Member+

    Dec 7, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    okay, i've updated the list with the most recent information and links.

    now i do have one reservation in that the SKC number is based on the RH tweet that there were only 73 STs left but there is an assumption in there that the "cap" of which only 73 were left was 16K and not 14k. i'd feel much better if we had a link to a source saying the cap was 16K for 2013.

    but since my being to stringent about what was a "reliable" source was what led to the old thread splitting up into this thread i will go with the consensus of the thread and use that 16K number unless others object and think we need a linkable source for the cap being 16K.

    and also remember that some of the teams in the list with numbers showing previous years is because that is the last season we have reliable linkable sources for. those numbers may very well have changed by now but the point of this list is to have a list of STHs by team based on real and hard sources that can be linked to (and thus others can check for themselves) as opposed to rumour and hersay which used to be all there was to go on in most STH count cases.
     
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  14. Shopping Cart Man

    Sep 21, 2006
    Jacksonville, FL
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would this be enough to list the Chivas STH number as < 2800?
    Link
     
  15. OleGunnar20

    OleGunnar20 Member+

    Dec 7, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    sold is not the same thing as STHs unfortunately. having a largely mexican-american fan base there is a very large cultural impetus to do game day walk up tickets over STs from what i understand. so while they might have sold 2700 tickets for the opening game there is no way to know what portion is STs and what is one game sales/walk up for that game.
     
  16. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But we know its less than 2700, since that was the reported sold amount.
     
  17. OleGunnar20

    OleGunnar20 Member+

    Dec 7, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    i guess it could go in unconfirmed as <2,700 but that is pretty vague ... somewhere between 0 - 2700? and all we have is grant wahl's tweet which he didn't source ... i'd say no but if others want it on the list it is up to the group.
     
  18. Howard the Drake

    Feb 27, 2010
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  19. OleGunnar20

    OleGunnar20 Member+

    Dec 7, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC

    it looks like one of these might be the article referenced in the tweet, anybody have a sub to SBJ that can extract the relevant STH #s info as quotes in this thread?

    https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/03/04/In-Depth/Presidents.aspx

    https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/03/04/In-Depth/Team-reports.aspx
     
  20. Shopping Cart Man

    Sep 21, 2006
    Jacksonville, FL
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A source told Goff that DC had 4.5 k holders last year.

    Link
     
  21. Kejsare

    Kejsare Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Mar 10, 2010
    Virginia
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    PTFC has over 6,000 STH now.







    I mean the Thorns do. Sorry, I should be more clear about that. (This number shocks me, I thought 3-4k would be the upper limit)
     
  22. Felixx219

    Felixx219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 8, 2004
    Kansas City, MO
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I always thought it was 14k because 16k just seems really high in an 18,500 venue. That only leaves 2,500 for walkup not counting the 2000 or so SRO tickets they can sell.
     
  23. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  24. OleGunnar20

    OleGunnar20 Member+

    Dec 7, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
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  25. bobgato

    bobgato Member

    Jul 6, 2005
    Washington DC
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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