Not a hard number, but according to an article in the Dispatch yesterday, the Crew's numbers are continuing to grow: http://www.dispatch.com/content/sto...ees-big-year-ahead-for-crew-on-field-off.html The goal mentioned above is 10K season tickets.
According to SoccerPlusFR #MLS : Les WhitecapsFC ont vendu plus de 13 000 abonnements de saison pour 2013, à 1500 billets des guichets fermés samedi vs torontoFC 13000 season tickets sold for the whitecaps, and 1500 seats away from a sellout for the opening game. No source listed.
Rapids at 4178 as of this week: http://www.denverpost.com/rapids/ci_22693571/colorado-rapids-move-youth-2013-mls-season-preview
This whole terminology discrepancy between "ticket holders" and "actual tickets" is confusing me. Didn't the jersey articles say that there were about 2k ticket holders and they were approaching 5k tickets?
Two terms: Ticket holder accounts Ticket Holders The only reason ticket holder accounts mattered is that the jersey had one name per account, not one name per ticket. So if you had a family of 4 with season tickets you were allowed to put one name on the jersey (The Smith Family for example). If you had 1 season ticket on your account (like me) you were able to put one name on the jersey (Jason Maxwell). So there are about 1500 names on the jersey, because that's how many accounts there are. There are just under 4200 season ticket holders though (It was about 3600 last year when the names were taken).
http://www.sportsradiokjr.com/playe...t&program_id=elise_and_jerry.xml&mid=22937071 I'm sure you have seen this elsewhere, but Adrian was on KJR this morning and stated that the numbers of season ticket holders would remain unchanged for 2013. So if I'm reading all this correct... 2009 @ 22K 2010-13 @32K
7,500 and counting in MTL: http://www.lapresse.ca/debats/chron...yberpresse_B40_chroniques_373582_accueil_POS1 We should start a thread - anyone care to collect the info?
i am pretty sure that the idea behind this is that the list and this thread just keeps going and is updated anytime new information comes out ... so that at any given time we have an up to date season ticket holder count list with a link to the source of the most recent information.
It does say 2013. Perhaps we need a 2013 thread? Either that, or trunc the date off it, or make it 2012-13.
I'd say start a new thread the information hasn't been gathered for a while and collated and i'm too lazy to do it right now.
CONFIRMED:Seattle Sounders FC --------- 32,000 (2013)Sporting Kansas City --------- ~16,000 (2013)Portland Timbers FC --------- 15,250(2013)Toronto FC ------------------- 14,400 (2013)Vancouver Whitecaps FC ---- 13,000(2013)Philadelphia Union - 12,000-13,000 (2011)Houston Dynamo ------------ 12,000 (2012)Los Angeles Galaxy ----------- 8,500(2013)Montreal Impact -------------- 7,500 (2013)Real Salt Lake --------- 7,000-8,000(2011)Red Bull New York ----------- ~7,000 (2012)Chicago Fire ------------------- 6,000 (2012)Columbus Crew --------------- 5,000 (2012)Colorado Rapids -------------- 4,175(2013)San Jose Earthquakes --------- 4,000 (2012)UNCONFIRMED:MISSING:Chivas USA, DC United, FC Dallas, NE Revolution,
okay, i've updated the list with the most recent information and links. now i do have one reservation in that the SKC number is based on the RH tweet that there were only 73 STs left but there is an assumption in there that the "cap" of which only 73 were left was 16K and not 14k. i'd feel much better if we had a link to a source saying the cap was 16K for 2013. but since my being to stringent about what was a "reliable" source was what led to the old thread splitting up into this thread i will go with the consensus of the thread and use that 16K number unless others object and think we need a linkable source for the cap being 16K. and also remember that some of the teams in the list with numbers showing previous years is because that is the last season we have reliable linkable sources for. those numbers may very well have changed by now but the point of this list is to have a list of STHs by team based on real and hard sources that can be linked to (and thus others can check for themselves) as opposed to rumour and hersay which used to be all there was to go on in most STH count cases.
sold is not the same thing as STHs unfortunately. having a largely mexican-american fan base there is a very large cultural impetus to do game day walk up tickets over STs from what i understand. so while they might have sold 2700 tickets for the opening game there is no way to know what portion is STs and what is one game sales/walk up for that game.
i guess it could go in unconfirmed as <2,700 but that is pretty vague ... somewhere between 0 - 2700? and all we have is grant wahl's tweet which he didn't source ... i'd say no but if others want it on the list it is up to the group.
@footiebusiness Great info from SBJ re @MLS season tkt #s RSL: 10k, CO 4k, NE 4-5k, Hou 12k & Chivas 2,500. https://twitter.com/footiebusiness/status/308770650657542144
it looks like one of these might be the article referenced in the tweet, anybody have a sub to SBJ that can extract the relevant STH #s info as quotes in this thread? https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/03/04/In-Depth/Presidents.aspx https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/03/04/In-Depth/Team-reports.aspx
PTFC has over 6,000 STH now. I mean the Thorns do. Sorry, I should be more clear about that. (This number shocks me, I thought 3-4k would be the upper limit)
I always thought it was 14k because 16k just seems really high in an 18,500 venue. That only leaves 2,500 for walkup not counting the 2000 or so SRO tickets they can sell.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...ea8e06-8833-11e2-b412-2e8596e7c927_story.html Some info on DC United season tickets.
so an unnamed source is quoted in the article as saying the STs in 2012 were at 4,300 and have risen 27% this year. i am going to put DCU at ~5,500 in the unconfirmed section unless anybody has an issue with that?
RSL is at 14,000+. http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2012/05/21/Franchises/Real-Salt-Lake.aspx