New and improved Season Ticket Holder Count

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by profiled, May 17, 2012.

  1. fuzzx

    fuzzx Member+

    Feb 4, 2012
    Brossard
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
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  2. aperfectring

    aperfectring Member+

    Jul 13, 2011
    Hillsboro, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
  3. 30King

    30King Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Rocklin, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Little ole Sac Republic (USL Pro) just announced 5,000 STH sales. Some of the big dogs need to step it up, including my Quakes :D:p
     
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  4. fuzzx

    fuzzx Member+

    Feb 4, 2012
    Brossard
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
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  5. holiday

    holiday Member+

    Oct 16, 2007
    just for some informal and very limited comparison: i came across two newspaper reports in the past month or so, one of which mentioned that ny islanders have about 8,000 season tickets, and the other that nj devils have about 8,500 (and are looking for ways to improve that number). i assume these were 'season ticket equivalents.'
     
  6. thnkucomeagain

    thnkucomeagain Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Indy 11 as an expansion team in the NASL have more STH than my Fire... :(
     
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  7. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Two words: Peter Wilt.
     
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  8. thnkucomeagain

    thnkucomeagain Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I miss him so much... What he did with the Fire in his time here was nothing short of a miracle...
     
  9. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Two words: Dollar Menu.
     
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  10. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    One word (?): Bridgeview

    Such a hassle to get there unless you have a car. Not a slight on suburban stadiums in general, just Toyota Park specifically.
     
  11. Dpbarkley

    Dpbarkley Member

    May 22, 2012
    Philadelphia, PA
    agreed. I' ve been to toyota park and ppl park in chester. not sure which one is technically farther from its downtown, but toyota was way more inconvenient to get to. I still plan on catching some games there this summer, but it does take away from the experience.
     
  12. fuzzx

    fuzzx Member+

    Feb 4, 2012
    Brossard
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    At least PPL has that SEPTA station nearby. I don't know how good it is, but even if service is bad, you have the potential to make it better.

    Chicago is in an unfortunate situation. Unlike Dallas, Salt Lake or Colorado which are auto-dominated cities where people are used to driving everywhere, Chicago is much more transit oriented.

    You guys don't have the culture, or the infrastructure, for everyone to easily drive everywhere.

    And with the bankruptcy of bridge view, no chance you're moving anytime soon.

    Though I did see an ad on the MLS live feed about buses that go from a bunch of downtown pubs to the stadium for $10.

    Is that useful? If they do more of that, or make it cheaper, would it alleviate some problems?

    Are they doing the maximum to shuttle people from the L stations to the stadium?

    Since they're not going anywhere, their only option is to make it as accessible as possible.
     
  13. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The buses from the downtown bars to the stadium are nice, but you're still talking at least an hour of travel to 1) get to the bar, 2) get through traffic, which always sucks here, and 3) park and walk to the stadium. Probably closer to 90 minutes, and that's in each direction. There's also a direct bus from the Midway CTA station to the stadium, but finding the buses to get back there after the match isn't the easiest. I did that once, and won't be doing it again.

    I'm trying to plan a gameday with some friends where we take those buses, but that's the issue: it's a full day. It's hard to convince casuals to blow 6 hours on a weekend (much less a weekday) to go watch a sport they don't necessarily like. Getting them to go to a Cubs or Sox game is a thousand times easier.

    The Fire are the team of the suburbs, not of Chicago.
     
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  14. fuzzx

    fuzzx Member+

    Feb 4, 2012
    Brossard
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  15. TOareaFan

    TOareaFan Member+

    Jun 19, 2008
    Greater Toronto Area
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  16. fuzzx

    fuzzx Member+

    Feb 4, 2012
    Brossard
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    The distance doesn't seem that different, but judging only by google maps, I would think that staging a shuttle in a Mall parking lot is much simpler and logistically feasible that next to the airport.

    Just spitballin though.
     
  17. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    Salt Lake actually also has a light rail station within a short walking distance of the stadium.
     
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  18. TOareaFan

    TOareaFan Member+

    Jun 19, 2008
    Greater Toronto Area
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    The staging is not the issue at the Midway stop....I have only done it once but it is a subway station with a bus depot attached to it....the buses park in bays and there are signs telling you which bay your bus (in this case the shuttle to Toyota Park) will be stopping/loading in.

    An earlier poster mentioned how difficult it is to find your bus after the event at TP....that was my experience too....in the end I walked a bit and flagged down a cab......not sure this is helped at all if the Orange line goes to Ford City.
     
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  19. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    That's helpful, but most everyone drives anyway.
     
  20. sedlie

    sedlie Member+

    Apr 5, 2011
    Not sure what is so difficult about finding the buses back to the Orange Line Midway Station. They're the line of buses... in the stadium parking lot... SE part of the parking lot specifically. Last bus leaves 30 minutes after the match ends.

    [​IMG]
     
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  21. TOareaFan

    TOareaFan Member+

    Jun 19, 2008
    Greater Toronto Area
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    It was a few years ago....but my recollection is that I came out the gate near the letter "E"....was heading towards where I thought the buses were but got directed by people out of the stadium grounds to where that visiting supporters parking lot is at 71st.....before you know it I was outside the stadium grounds and when I realized the buses were not likely outside the grounds I was refused re-entry.....it went something like that but, as I said, I ended up just walking along 71st towards Harlem (originally thought I would/could catch a bus on Harlem that was headed towards Midway but ended up seeing a cab and flagging it down.

    That aside, the point is getting the bus at Midway is pretty easy.....but at least two people have experienced issues getting the bus back.
     
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  22. soundermiki

    soundermiki Member+

    May 24, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Salt Lake's Light Rail is very solid, especially for away fans who typically stay downtown (as I did). But yeah, I imagine the locals drive mostly.
     
  23. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    All this. If you're unfamiliar with Toyota Park, it's easy to lose track of where you're supposed to go.
     
  24. sedlie

    sedlie Member+

    Apr 5, 2011
    LOL. When you use public transportation, do you typically just hop on the first train or bus you see and hope that it takes you where you're going, or do you plan out where you need to go?
     
  25. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Do you know your directional orientation as soon as you walk out of a stadium with poor signage, in an area you've never been? I'm sure you do!

    :rolleyes:
     
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