New and improved Season Ticket Holder Count

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  1. sedlie

    sedlie Member+

    Apr 5, 2011
    My parents' is a Celeron. :(
     
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  2. asoc

    asoc Member+

    Sep 28, 2007
    Tacoma
    yeah, F that rdram... I never upgraded it in mine.
     
  3. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    At my day job I have two offices that I split time between. The head office where I do some data mining and some minor SQL scripting I have two desks (my main desk and a testbed). My "main" computer is a Dell 3000 and the testbed is a Dell 2400 running SQL Server 2008 connected to a client which (I forget) is an old Dell 2400/3000/4000. All of those machines are still Windows XP. My computers at the other site were the first Windows 7.0 machines (including the only 2 32-bit Windows 7 machines) in the company. We're about 60% of the way through replacing/upgrading all of our computers (roughly) from XP to 7. I suspect my machines will be the last ones done.

    We're really going to miss the old Dells. We had it down cold. We cold completely wipe and reinstall Windows 7 and all of our Point of Sale systems in under two hours. It kept the machines in service for a good four or five years after we normally would've replaced them. No messing with trying to uninstall malware or clean up the registries - just wipe the machine and send it back out. We're trying to do something similar with new systems - we've upgraded to flash drives and for each of the types of machines in our retail outlets we've got a "master print". Hopefully it works.

    It'll be interesting to see what happens after April 8th - how soon the first big XP exploit goes public. I've heard a rumor that Microsoft is working on a stripped down Windows 8.1 with Bing baked in that would be a free upgrade from XP and require far less hardware than full Windows 8 installs. It would be a shame to just junk the 20-30 leftover and running Dells just because XP has gone past the end of support date.
     
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  4. fuzzx

    fuzzx Member+

    Feb 4, 2012
    Brossard
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    It's a wait and see game, but I'm not expecting XP to suddenly become useless. All recent exploits require admin accounts, and almost all happen as a result of user action of some kind.

    POS devices and computers used for specific software, as opposed to browsing bigsoccer, should be fine.
     
  5. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I believe the NYC Subway system ticketing is still run on OS/2 Warp machines.

    The problem with POS machines is the PCI credit card standards, not to mention liability issues with other customer data. The next PCI change will be to black box systems where no credit card info enters retailer systems with the pin pad or other device communicating directly with the card processor, but I wouldn't want a part time employee or near minimum wage employee anywhere near an XP machine keyboard after the end of support.
     
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  6. Len

    Len Member+

    Club: Dallas Tornado
    Jan 18, 1999
    Everywhere and Nowhere.....I'm the wind, baby.
    Am I the only one here who has no idea what the last ten posts were about?

    .....something about a computer, I think.
     
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  7. crazypete13

    crazypete13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 7, 2007
    A walk from BMO
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    I understand the posts - but I'm wondering why they happened all the same.
     
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  8. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    So, to summarize the Grant Wahl article:

    Chicago = 6,300 (2013)
    Chivas = undisclosed
    Colorado = 5,000 (2014)
    Columbus = 7,500 (2013; 2014 is ahead of last year's pace)
    DC United = undisclosed (similar to 2013)
    Dallas = undisclosed (increase of 30% from 2013)
    Houston = 12,000 (2014)
    LA = more than 7,500 (2014)
    Montreal = 8,300 (2013)
    New England = undisclosed (increase of 15% from 2013)
    New York = undisclosed
    Philadelphia = more than 11,000 (2014)
    Portland = 15,300 (2014, more than 9,000 on waiting list)
    RSL = more than 10,500 (2014)
    San Jose = 5,000 (2014)
    Seattle = 34,000 (2014)
    Sporting KC = 14,000 (2014, more than 3,000 on waiting list)
    Toronto = 17,000 (2014)
    Vancouver = a little more than 13,000 (2014)
     
  9. blacksun

    blacksun Member+

    Mar 30, 2006
    Seoul, Korea
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So NE should be around 5000 and DC around 5500.
     
  10. bwidell

    bwidell Member+

    Apr 19, 2005
    Manchester, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yup, as I said earlier. ;)
     
  11. billf

    billf Member+

    May 22, 2001
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe French rail does as well!
     
  12. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    My favorite operating system. A good 20 years ahead of its time with regards to stability and performance. Le sigh.
     
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  13. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What about Microsoft Bob? :D
     
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  14. edwardgr

    edwardgr Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #339 edwardgr, Mar 17, 2014
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2014
    Bob was not an OS. It was an OS overlay for people who where unable to figure out windows. The program manager for which was non other than Melinda Ann French, now Melinda Gates.

    Many of my earliest support calls were either uninstalling Bob to allow Windows 95 to install, or teaching people how to use Windows 95 when all they knew was Bob. Now curiously the Wiki for Bob says it could run under Windows 95, but I distinctly recall it preventing Win95 install, and not being installable in Win95. Now I wonder if I did all those customers a disservice so many years ago.

    I am pretty sure you could have used the checkbook in Bob to account for the number of season tickets you purchased, and the calendar to mark your match days. Had to make this at least marginally ST related :p.
     
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  15. sedlie

    sedlie Member+

    Apr 5, 2011
    Bob was trash. Packard Bell Navigator was a much better shell.

    I think there was a stereo interface included in it as well, which could be used to listen to MLS matches broadcast on the radio for home matches where one couldn't use their season tickets.
     
  16. OleGunnar20

    OleGunnar20 Member+

    Dec 7, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    updated with the info from the grant wahl article and new links and years ... red for anything that isn't the most current year.

    CONFIRMED:
    Seattle Sounders FC ---------- 34,000 (2014)
    Toronto FC ------------------- 17,000 (2014)
    Portland Timbers FC ---------- 15,300 (2014)
    Sporting Kansas City ----------14,000 (2014)
    Vancouver Whitecaps FC ----- 13,000 (2014)
    Houston Dynamo ------------- 12,000 (2014)
    Philadelphia Union ---------- 11,000+ (2014)
    Real Salt Lake --------------- ~11,000 (2014)
    Montreal Impact --------------- 8,300 (2013)
    Los Angeles Galaxy ------------- 7,500 (2014)
    Columbus Crew ---------------- 7,500 (2013)
    Red Bull New York ----------- ~7,000 (2012)
    Chicago Fire -------------------- 6,300 (2013)
    Colorado Rapids ---------------- 5,000 (2014)
    San Jose Earthquakes --------- 5,000 (2014)
    New England Revolution ---- ~4,500 (2013)
    Chivas USA -------------------- 2,500 (2013)

    UNCONFIRMED:
    DC United --------------------- 5,500 (2013)

    MISSING:
    FC Dallas​
     
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  17. trip76

    trip76 Member

    Jul 17, 2007
    North East USA
    you've got DC's 2013 in blue.
     
  18. Shegan

    Shegan New Member

    Mar 17, 2014
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    At February the Impact have reached the same number of season ticket holders from last year (8,300) and looking to get 9000 for the beggining of the season, so i think you can mark somewhat there are at ~ 9000 for 2014
     
  19. trip76

    trip76 Member

    Jul 17, 2007
    North East USA
    do you have a link shegan? this thread tries to only include numbers from a verifiable source. each of the season ticket numbers is actually a link to that source.
     
  20. fuzzx

    fuzzx Member+

    Feb 4, 2012
    Brossard
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    They have a goal for the year of 9000 but at this time have only confirmed 8300. Until they update publicly we can't assume they've met that goal.
     
  21. fuzzx

    fuzzx Member+

    Feb 4, 2012
    Brossard
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    This is what is being referred to:

    http://www.impactmontreal.com/en/news/2014/02/season-tickets-over-81-members-have-renewed

    So it's obvious that the real number is higher than 8300, but no matter how confident Richard feels about our sales, there's no reason to jump the gun and assume they've reached or surpassed their goal.
     
  22. bwidell

    bwidell Member+

    Apr 19, 2005
    Manchester, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're missing the updated New England numbers:
    That would put the Revs at between 4,600 and 5,750 (15% increase) as of now, and between 4,800 and 6,000 (20% increase) by the time they stop selling Season Tickets for 2014 (not sure exactly when that is).
     
  23. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    At some point in the past the internal league count stopped the day the last team played its first home game.
     
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  24. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  25. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
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