[NDR]CONCACAF World Cup qualifying: New and Improved

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  1. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    CONCACAF has a new qualifying system for the 2014 World Cup.

    Preliminary Round:
    The 10 lowest ranked teams in CONCACAF are matched up and play home and away to advance 5 teams.

    1st Round:
    Those 5 winners join the next highest ranked 19 teams for a group stage. Those 24 teams will be drawn into 6 groups of 4 teams each. Only the winners of those groups will advance to the next round.

    2nd Round:
    The 6 group winners and the top 6 countries who received byes to this round are drawn into 3 groups of four teams. The top two from each group advance to the final hex.

    3rd Round:
    The good old hex. The surviving 6 teams play a single group stage to determine the three automatic qualifiers and the 4th place team that will enter the intercontinental playoffs.
     
  2. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Dates for the rounds.

    Preliminary Round
    June 3, 2011
    June 7, 2011

    1st Round
    September 2, 2011
    September 6, 2011
    October 7, 2011
    October 11, 2011
    November 11, 2011
    November 15, 2011

    2nd Round
    June 8, 2012
    June 12, 2012
    September 7, 2012
    September 11, 2012
    October 12, 2012
    October 16, 2012

    3rd Round
    February 6, 2013
    March 22, 2013
    March 26, 2013
    June 7, 2013
    June 11, 2013
    June 18, 2013
    September 6, 2013
    September 10, 2013
    October 11, 2013
    October 15, 2013
     
  3. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    It's not exactly clear to me which rankings that CONCACAF is using to determine who is in which rounds. The current FIFA rankings wold divide the teams like this:

    Preliminary Round
    35 Montserrat
    34 Anguilla
    33 US Virgin Islands
    32 Aruba
    31 Bahamas
    30 Turks and Caicos Islands
    29 St Lucia
    28 British Virgin Islands
    27 Dominican Republic
    26 Belize

    Enter in 1st Round
    25 Bermuda
    24 Nicaragua
    23 Cayman Islands
    22 St Vincent and the Grenadines
    21 Curacao
    20 Barbados
    19 Puerto Rico
    18 Dominica
    17 Guatemala
    16 St Kitts and Nevis
    15 Suriname
    14 Guyana
    13 Antigua and Barbuda
    12 Haiti
    11 Trinidad and Tobago
    10 Grenada
    9 El Salvador
    8 Canada
    7 Panama

    Enter in 2nd Round
    6 Cuba
    5 Costa Rica
    4 Jamaica
    3 Honduras
    2 Mexico
    1 USA
     
  4. metroag

    metroag Da Bomb Diggity

    Mar 2, 2006
    La hacienda
    haha-does Montserrat even have a home pitch? the last time I checked they couldn't play home matches due to the volcano.
     
  5. yossarin

    yossarin Member

    Nov 4, 2007
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Friendly at Roberton - Honduras vs El Salvador - May 29

     
  6. antnee7898

    antnee7898 Member

    Oct 19, 2007
    South Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    First Round schedule and one result already:

    1st Leg
    Wednesday, June 15, 2011
    Montserrat 2-5 Belize (match was played in Trinidad & Tobago)

    Saturday, July 2, 2011
    Turks and Caicos Islands v. Bahamas

    Sunday, July 3, 2011
    U.S. Virgin Islands v. British Virgin Islands

    Friday, July 8, 2011
    Anguilla v. Dominican Republic (will be played in the Dominican Republic)
    Aruba v. Saint Lucia

    2nd Leg
    Saturday, July 9, 2011
    Bahamas v. Turks and Caicos Islands

    Sunday, July 10, 2011
    Dominican Republic v. Anguilla
    British Virgin Islands v. U.S. Virgin Islands

    Tuesday, July 12, 2011
    Saint Lucia v. Aruba


    Winners of this round move on to Round 2 to face teams ranked from 7 to 25. Round 2 will be played from September 2 to November 15, 2011. Round 2 will have six groups of four teams each. Only the group winners advance to Round 3 where the teams ranked 1 to 6 join the tournament.

    The top six ranked teams were in fact:

    Mexico
    United States
    Honduras
    Jamaica
    Costa Rica
    Cuba

    Those teams do not start play until June of 2012.
     
  8. The_Ponce

    The_Ponce Co-President of the United States of Dynamo

    Feb 21, 2011
    Houston, Texas, U.S.
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It should be noted that Belize probably will be disqualified, and return leg has been postponed. Tragedy.

    http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/06/18/idINIndia-57770920110618
     
  9. huesocolorado

    huesocolorado Member

    Sep 12, 2006
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How is Cuba ranked ahead of Panama, El Salvador, and Canada? I mean seriously... HOW?
     
  10. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
  11. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    From my perspective this would be particularly stupid considering you have a 5-2 lead and likely can milk 2 home qualifiers for money. You can't secure the premises for Monserrat??????? Ain't like it's security for the US or Mexico.

    FIFA does this sort of brinksmanship all the time. Usually the country involved backs down, but we'll see.
     
  12. The_Ponce

    The_Ponce Co-President of the United States of Dynamo

    Feb 21, 2011
    Houston, Texas, U.S.
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep. Not to mention if Belize makes it again and holds the qualifier here in Reliant Stadium, again...then well there goes another 60,000 people filling up seats.
     
  13. Eguzki

    Eguzki Member

    Jul 4, 2007
    Spring, TX
    Club:
    Athletic Club Bilbao
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didn't FIFA changed their rules after Belize played their home game here in Houston?, I could be wrong, but I remember that FIFA said that from then on, if you didn't have a FIFA approved stadium, you couldn't play your games anywhere else, automatically forfeiting those games.

    FIFA will not back down, the one thing they follow to the letter, the one thing they never, ever, compromise is governments trying to control or rule over soccer federations.

    As bad, as corrupt, as disunified as FIFA is, they know that soccer as a sport is so noble that it will survive, but they also know that the day governments try to rule on their countries, that will be the real end, it is better to have a bad but stable federation than having the new president or new secretary of state or new secretary of sports changing everyone and every rule.
     
  14. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Obviously not true since the first leg of Belize-Montserrat series was played in T&T. And the Anguilla home leg is in the Dominican Republic.

    You may be thinking of the change in the CONCACAF Champions league where games cannot be moved out of the hosting country.
     
  15. Eguzki

    Eguzki Member

    Jul 4, 2007
    Spring, TX
    Club:
    Athletic Club Bilbao
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mmmhh, then I stand corrected, you may be right and I was probably thinking about the Champions League.
     
  16. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Couple more results over the weekend:

    1st Leg
    Wednesday, June 15, 2011
    Montserrat 2-5 Belize (match was played in Trinidad & Tobago)

    Saturday, July 2, 2011
    Turks and Caicos Islands 0-4 Bahamas

    Sunday, July 3, 2011
    U.S. Virgin Islands 2-0 British Virgin Islands

    Friday, July 8, 2011
    Anguilla v. Dominican Republic (will be played in the Dominican Republic)
    Aruba v. Saint Lucia

    2nd Leg
    Saturday, July 9, 2011
    Bahamas v. Turks and Caicos Islands

    Sunday, July 10, 2011
    Dominican Republic v. Anguilla
    British Virgin Islands v. U.S. Virgin Islands

    Tuesday, July 12, 2011
    Saint Lucia v. Aruba


    I cannot find verification if Belize has officially been eliminated from qualifying by FIFA or not.
     
  17. DynamoEAR

    DynamoEAR Member+

    May 30, 2011
    HoustAtlantaDMV
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unless things are fixed by the 10th of this month Belize will be disqualified and Monserrat will move on.
     
  18. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Do you have a source for that? It was my understanding that the suspension had to be lifted before June 30 and that the game between Belize and Montserrat had to be played before July 10.

    It is now after June 30 and I don't find any lifting of the suspension. July 10 is only 5 days away and I don't see a game scheduled.
     
  19. DynamoEAR

    DynamoEAR Member+

    May 30, 2011
    HoustAtlantaDMV
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I got it off of wikipedia on their concacaf qualifying 2014 page.
     
  20. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    The article that wikipedia links to says:

    Hmmm. I guess it depends what "rescheduled before July 10" means. Sure sounds to me like Belize has to recognize the FFB, FIFA has to lift the suspension, and the game has to be played by the 10th. There should be some news coming out if any of that is happening.
     
  21. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    All the other games are being played in the July 9-12, 2011 neighborhood so arguably they want it played ("scheduled to be played") by July 10. That puts teeth in FIFA's decision, which is basically a ban that goes away if you cooperate. Given today's date and the need to coordinate international referees and so forth, I'd assume Belize is running in the red on the tachometer, if it has not blown its engine already.

    Now, in theory your absolute drop-dead date would be July 31, 2011, when the draw for the CONCACAF second round takes place in Brazil.
     
  22. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    FIFA has temporarily lifted the suspension of Belize at least until August 15.

    http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/media/newsid=1470955/

     
  23. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We've had proud Dynamo supporters from Belize. Good on them.
     
  24. DynamoEAR

    DynamoEAR Member+

    May 30, 2011
    HoustAtlantaDMV
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  25. DynamoEAR

    DynamoEAR Member+

    May 30, 2011
    HoustAtlantaDMV
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well this Bahamas team may be better than years past.



    Streamrolls Turks and Caicos 6-0 in the return leg, wins on aggregate 10-0 and advances to the second round. congrats to them.
     

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