NCAA RPI

And it's inaccurate as it doesn't reflect UCLA nor U-Dub's weekend results.

UCLA is 11-2-2 on the year and U-Dub is 11-4-3

 

It's also missing the UCSB-Davis game Sunday.

This isn't East Coast bias. It's midwest incompetence.

 

It looks to me like the NCAA just used last weeks RPI and put todays date on as most all of the W-L-T records unchanged.

 

http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-men/d1/ncaa_mens_soccer_rpi

 

That's better. I'll bet their phone started ringing as soon as they posted the first version.

 

Not really, I can see it. They have played much better teams out of conference, and the big east has been very strong this year. Just look at the top 10 of the rpi. Now, if Maryland goes through and beats Wake, and then mows through the ACC tournament (esp if they beat UNC on the way), I could see them going back on top.

 

UC Davis and Rutgers are both on the border, and Rutgers is a .500 team. Will either one make it?

 

its happened before... back in 09' indiana was .500 and made the tourney. Ended winning a first and 2nd round game as well. and if anyone remembers they had home field advantage in both of the first two matches. the 2nd b/c butler did not put in for hosting a ncaa game (also i believe they did not have the lights / facilities at the time, might be wrong on that part)

 

Has the selection committee deviated from the RPI much in the past when picking the top 4 seeds?

 

Haha what.

 

Niagara is on the bubble with an RPI in the 50s despite being 11-1-4. That's just wrong! I don't care what conference a team is in, to go this long with only one loss is an accomplishment.

 

East Coast bias is screwing Niagara!

 

So will UCSB's exclusion form the NCAA tourney (because of the incident on Sunday) , help another conference get elected into the finals? Just curious...

 

Just so we're clear, the incident Sunday ain't why UCSB isn't going to the NCAA Tournament.

The RPI close to 70, the losses and the weak schedule that caused said RPI and the failure to make their own conference tournament are why UCSB wasn't going to the NCAA Tournament.

 

Got it.....Thanks!

 

The seeds in UMass' region that year were BC, Creighton, Northwestern and Tulsa. So keeping teams in their own region had little to do with making UMass' path to the College Cup easier. Instead, their path became easier because Central Connecticut upset Tulsa and UIC upset Creighton, allowing them to play Sweet 16 and Elite 8 games at home instead of having to travel to the midwest.

 

Repeat to yourself over and over. RPI is not a measure of quality but instead a measure wins in your schedule. That is why Akron has received such relatively low seeds over the past 5 years despite putting out such great teams. Despite trying to get the most challenging schedule possible, the other teams in the conference cannot provide enough wins.

 

Read the RPI explained my friend. The bias is not where you are from, but how you are able to schedule. Niagara comes from a league that creates the benefit for the Big East's and ACC's of the world in getting bids. As a lower league they do not benefit unless of course they can consistently win their league and get the RPI favorable teams on their schedule. Even so, it does not matter, because they are almost always too low for it to make a difference. BTW the MAAC is one of the very weakest leagues in D1 so Niagara is only ranked 48 in Massey.

Here are the teams the get hurt the most and benefit the most according to Massey. See if you can notice any differences in the characteristics of the two groups.

Biggest RPI Losers

Team	Conf	Record	Rank	RPI	Diff
Mercer	Atlantic Sun	11-5-1	92	133	-41
Valparaiso	Horizon	4-7-5	141	179	-38
Detroit	Horizon	9-7	105	142	-37
UC Santa Barbara	Big West	9-5-3	44	71	-27
Air Force	Mtn Pacific SF	8-7-3	82	109	-27
W Michigan	Mid-American	10-5-2	104	131	-27
Appalachian St	Southern	7-7-3	111	138	-27
Coastal Carolina	Big South	15-1-2	13	39	-26
Bucknell	Patriot League	7-6-4	109	135	-26
Furman	Southern	12-3-3	40	65	-25
Stanford	Pac 12	7-7-1	46	70	-24
Oregon St	Pac 12	6-8-3	66	90	-24
New Hampshire	America East	6-7-4	127	150	-23
Santa Clara	West Coast	8-5	42	64	-22
Cornell	Ivy League	13-1	10	31	-21
Marshall	Conference USA	11-4-1	37	58	-21
UCF	Conference USA	6-5-3	80	101	-21
San Diego St	Pac 12	6-7-3	72	91	-19
San Francisco	West Coast	5-6-3	79	98	-19
San Diego	West Coast	9-6	62	80	-18

Biggest RPI Winners

Team	Conf	Record	Rank	RPI	Diff
Seton Hall	Big East	6-11	145	94	51
Providence	Big East	4-10-2	124	77	47
South Carolina	Conference USA	4-11-2	114	72	42
Pittsburgh	Big East	6-9-2	162	123	39
Harvard	Ivy League	2-9-3	128	97	31
Michigan	Big 10	6-8-1	64	34	30
Lehigh	Patriot League	4-11	155	125	30
Ohio St	Big 10	6-9-1	98	73	25
Princeton	Ivy League	6-6-2	93	69	24
Rutgers	Big East	7-7-1	52	29	23
Drake	Missouri Val	4-10-4	142	121	21
Presbyterian	Big South	3-14	198	177	21
Col Charleston	Southern	8-9	75	55	20
Cincinnati	Big East	6-8-4	107	87	20
Boston Univ	America East	6-8-4	87	68	19
South Florida	Big East	8-5-4	45	27	18
Fairfield	Metro Atlantic	7-8-1	122	104	18
Iona	Metro Atlantic	7-10	138	120	18
Virginia	Atlantic Coast	8-6-2	31	15	16
Campbell	Big South	11-5-1	57	41	16
Buffalo	Mid-American	4-10-1	177	161	16

 

When Sandon says "Weak" it means RPI unfriendly schedule rather than weak in a qualitative way. But even in a system the truly measured the quality of the seasons teams were having, UCSB would likely received an at-large bid.

 

Based on what? Reputation? Intimidation? Potential ticket sales?

They had a winning record early, but against against inferior teams, tied the best non-conference teams they played, and are last in their conference/division standings.

 

Interesting to note in scoachd1's Biggest RPI Winners... anyone guess? No West Coast leagues or teams. Ding ding ding!!