Mobcast Cup (International Women's Club Championship 2012)

In the year 2478 we might beam teams from Frankfurt to Kobe and Portland to Pretoria to play in a Global League. Unfortunately....we might just miss the games,cause father time doesnt like unpunctuality

 

I definitely need some of your bat juice to understand your post! All I'm saying is that the NWSL done a pretty good of balancing their league. KC is on top of the standings with a 11-4-5 record, and who's biggest win was 3-0. Take a look at, lets say Lyon, who went something 30-0 in the French league with one win. 16-0, and thrice wins by scores of 13-0, and I think it's fair to say that something'a up in Gotham City!
You might say that's a by product of Lyon's phenominal youth development, or it just could be that they nut just gobbled up & enrolled just about every top young French prospect they vould of their hands on, but also buy several of the best international players as well.
Not to be outdone, Sweden's Tyreso club got an international superstar front line of Marta, Press & Bouquete. Postdam got Annorma, Ogimi & Hegerberg....... and not to be contend with winning the Champions league with it's former lineup, Wolfberg, just hired Fisher.
It seems that $$$ talks with no restrictions or prize caps in Europe in men's as well as women's soccer. Which is fine if you like seeing scores of 16-0. To each his own I say! it's just here in the US we sorta enjoy more closely knit games.

PS or are u just sayin; euros can't have balanced leagues the cuz rich man , poor man club owners, all ready in place for decades???

 

Well, they don't have Ogimi no more, ask to Chelsea fans (like me )

 

Just to be a little more precise, in the 2012-13 French League (D1), Lyon's record is 22-0-0, with 132 goals scored and 5 taken, which is - I agree -pretty ridiculous.
The 16-0 win was in French Cup against a D3 team, and there was one 13-0, and one 13-1 win in the League (with numerous 7-0, 8-0, 9-0...).
French league is an exception. There is not such a domination with such ludicrous scores in Bundesliga or in Damallsvenskan. Frankfurt has been building a super-team with plenty of internationals for some years. For which result ? None.
But, all the same, I think that the US system to share the best national players (internationals) amongst the various teams is a good idea... but rather impossible to imagine in Europe.

 

Sorry, I answered before I saw your - wise - post

So, to be forgiven, I'll try to give my personal answers to your questions :

- Will there be a Mobcast Cup 2013? I think so.
- Should there be a Mobacast Club 2013? Yes, the first edition was a success. But PLEASE, stop calling it the "Club World Cup". So far, there is nothing to do with such a thing, even if we can see it as a first step to it. Actually, this denomination (WC) is only used in France. Just guess know why !
- Which clubs are likely to take part? All depends if it's still the mobcast cup, that is a simple international tournament, or if it turns itself into a second step to a real WC. In the first case, it's up to JFA to invite who they want. In second case, I would say : Japan champion (Asian CL winner would be best), European CL winner, NWSL winner, Australian winner, South-American CL winner. Ideally, the best African team.
- Or which ones it would be beneficial to women's football if they'd take part? The question is ambiguous. How to know before what will make a difference between WF's interest and the team's personal interest ?
- Or which ones you'd wish could take part? See above (that is INAC Kobe, Wolfsburg, US champion, Canberra + S-A team + African team).
- Who's likely to win with last year's formula? I broke my crystal ball
- And with another formula and more invitations? 6 teams, with two groups of 3, and rankings matches (as in Algarve or Cyprus Cups). I see no reason to have two Japanese or two European teams (even if it goes against my personal interest).
- Will Wolsfburg accept the invitation? I hope they'll do.
- Or will they decline and maybe OL will come again? I think that Jean-Michel Aulas will do everything possible to convince his German friends that it would be a bad idea for Wolfsburg to go to Japan at this period of the year If they don't, Lyon of course should go...
- Could still this claim to be a kinda World Cup and a preparation for a FIFA-supported competition if WCL's winner club should decline? In no way. That would only be an international tournament... as it was already last year (see above).

 

...how would you even find an African team to invite?

I mean, ideally, a CWC would take the champions of each Confederation.
Most federations don't have their own club championship, but other proposed invitees are understandable:
--Japan (AFC) is the host
--Australia, though no longer in the OFC, is the only major league in the region.
--Likewise NWSL is the only major league in N.Amer.

But AFAIK Africa has no multi-national club competition despite having several viable national leagues (Algeria, Egypt, Kenya, & Nigeria to name a few)

 

... that's the question. That's why I wrote : "ideally"

 

hotjam2 I think blisset said it best really with "People, can we try to keep it quite on-topic?", but as I was getting a bit annoyed with watching another international thread potentially being taken down the next dark alley of NSWLALAL, blah blah Merica's the best, knee pads necessary levels of off topic verbal fellatio...., I couldn't help but react badly; so I'll apologise, sorry.

If you want to take this Euro Prince and the Pauper sports landscape topic to the Frauen-Bundessliga thread though...?

 

No apologies needed! The Mobcast Cup is supposed to be a competetition between the best clubs from each continent. So every team will have to defend not only it's club. but league , country, continent & whole way of life as well............at least in theory! So don't think anybody's been really off subject. But I can understand that us big bad yanks have tendencies to rub it in that we're currently #1.........and for that I do apologize!

 

...Why does it feel like this, every time U.S.wnt fans find their way to the other areas of the BS women's section...? You know, the other places where so few of us actually care to even mention their precious teams name, lol.

Oh, and the apology wasn't for you, it was for everybody else that had to witness me take the obvious bait so foolishly...

 

well as Hardy said to Laurel............this is another mess you gotten me into!

 

Good news are coming:

JFA announces this year's Mobcast Cup (IWCC) is competed by 5 clubs from Nov. 30 to Dec. 8. The 5 teams are 2 from Japan, 1 each from Europe, South America and Asia (other than Japan). The 2 from Japan are the winner of Nadeshiko League 2013 and Nadeshiko League Cup 2013. In case both titles are won by a same club, the runner-up of Nadeshiko League will be the second represenattive.

....Huge disappointment NWSL is not sending. However, many of its star players may be playing in Europe in November/December.

The exact schedule is:

11/30: Japan's second vs. Asian representative

12/4: Winner of 11/30 vs. European representative
12/4: Japan's first vs. South American representative
12/7: Third-place match by the losers of 12/4
12/8: Final by the winners of 12/4

Thanks to Ken Suzuki of WSU for the informartion.

NOW THE 2013 MOBCAST CUP THREAD CAN MAKE IT ALREADY

 

With only one European representative, though, I doubt there will be many NWSL stars involved, unless Lyon or Wolfsburg sign a glut of US internationals.

 

Yes, it would have been logical to have the future NWSL champion. And that would be logical too to have Wolfsburg as the European representing team.

 

Well unless Tyresö is the European team
But seriously I can see no reason they should be with only one UEFA team.

 

Well, if we want to go to a real Club WC, it should be normal to see only one team per continent or "semi-continent" (America being divided between North and Central America on one side, and South American on the other). The abnormality is to have 3 Asian teams, including two Japanese. But we are not at a WC stage yet, and in order to popularize it locally, it appears normal then to have two Nadeshiko teams, since it is the mobcast cup ONLY, that is an internbational friendly tournament, and nothing else so far.

I think that, as soon as the current mobcast turns into a real WC - if it happens -, three things should be applied :

1) not to play it every year in Japan, but play it each year on a different continent. Will it be a WORLD cup or not ?

2) having ONE team per continent and that is all, the one who has won its Continental Champion's League. Hence, the need to create CL where they don't exist yet.

3) NO special privilege for UEFA teams. STOP Euro-centrism. Do we want to see Women's Football becoming really universal or not, as soon as possible ? This won't be possible, if elitism is always privileged, bceause the gap between the best ones and the others will never be filled.

 

Since you are writting about what is needed for the current Mobcast Cup turns into a real WC please enlight me of the special privilege for UEFA teams in it you find so appealing in the current Mobcast Cup that you consider it one of the three main ponits that it need to change.

 

It's not that the current format favors European teams - but if it's to become a CWC, they shouldn't be given future favor. Hence no double-up from any continent (save hosts, though it should be just one host team, not two like currently).
(PS - new 2013 thread has been created)

 

NEW THREAD FOR THE 2013 EDITION