MLS TV Ratings

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  1. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am not 100% sure but I think the most watched MLS regular season game was Freddy Adu's debut on ABC in 2004 which was a 1.3 rating.

    Your guess is as good as mine as to if or when these old records will ever be broken.
     
  2. Paulie4star

    Paulie4star Member

    Feb 18, 2012
    Chesapeake, Virginia
    Club:
    NSC Minnesota Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  3. troutseth

    troutseth Member+

    Feb 1, 2006
    Houston, TX
    coolio.

    How about a graph with all of them and your axis being "game 1," game 2" etc. That way we can see any trends across all broadcasts.

    You could even do one that focuses on trends across all based on time slot.
     
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  4. Paulie4star

    Paulie4star Member

    Feb 18, 2012
    Chesapeake, Virginia
    Club:
    NSC Minnesota Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've actually attempted the first one before, but it was a pain in the rear due to the website I'm using. I will likely give it another go at either the end of regular season or as part of a season summary.

    Also, very good idea about time slots. I had never thought of that. :)
     
  5. RerunStubs

    RerunStubs Member

    Dec 8, 2006
    Is there any reason to differentiate between the ESPN and ESPN2 ratings? Does ESPN consider, say, a 300K viewership to be good for ESPN2, but mediocre for ESPN? In this day and age, is it really easier to draw on the main channel?

    This seems critical to understanding the extent to which ratings are really growing.
     
  6. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In general for most sports/events, the more important the game/event, the more likely you will see it on ESPN. It has been that way for since ESPN2 debuted.

    So by definition because ESPN gets better games than ESPN2, they tend to get better ratings as well.
     
  7. RerunStubs

    RerunStubs Member

    Dec 8, 2006
    Thanks. If the only reason that ratings are higher on ESPN is because they tend to put more attractive matchups on the main channel, this suggests that for purposes of evaluating MLS' strength as a TV product, we can combine its ratings across ESPN and ESPN2. And this suggests that ratings are most definitely up.

    That seems to be corroborated by Jack Bell's recent piece on MLS ratings in the Times:

     
  8. sedlie

    sedlie Member+

    Apr 5, 2011
    How about something like this?
    http://www.tc.umn.edu/~sedl0033/ratings/
     
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  9. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yup, I think it makes perfect sense to combine and the compare. We do this combination in the summary I periodically post.

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/community/threads/mls-tv-ratings.1914571/page-84#post-26218999
     
  10. yellowbismark

    yellowbismark Member+

    Nov 7, 2000
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder what the USOC Final ratings will be.

    Will it be more than the 18k in attendance?
     
  11. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    Maybe for the streams...
     
  12. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So basically, you're basically using evidence that the teams don't matter as much as the lead-in and the time of day and the day of the week to show that the teams do matter.

    That's some bitchin' cognitive dissonance there.
     
  13. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You lost me at the second basically....
     
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  14. Heist

    Heist Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cognitive dissonance by the particular poster perhaps, but I'd agree that lead-in seems to be a pretty important aspect of ratings thusfar.
     
  15. RfrancisR

    RfrancisR Member+

    Aug 7, 2006
    New Orleans Diaspora
    Anyone know the MLS 36 ratings?
     
  16. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    hopefully they replay those as well. thats how ESPN gets it good. When is the first NBC game?
     
  17. Fanatical Monk

    Fanatical Monk Member+

    Jun 14, 2011
    Fantasyland
    They are. I recorded it this morning.
     
  18. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    nice.
     
  19. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    I was going to record it, but kept forgetting. Hopefully I'll be able to find it again.
     
  20. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's a technical communication professor that I had in as an undergrad who would've shithammered me for using the word "basically" even once in that post, let alone for using it as gratuitously as I did use it.


    What I've gathered from this season's ratings are the following things matter:

    1. Time of day and day of week.
    2. The lead-in.

    Who's playing and where the game is being played matter to a certain extent, but not as much as has been implied in the past.
     
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  21. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Given GolTV is only in like 13M TVHH, it might be close.
     
  22. JoeCelt

    JoeCelt Member+

    Jul 7, 2012
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    Bosnia-Herzegovina
    USOC Final was probably watched more than 2x online than on TV. I remember that Sounders semifinal against Chivas was watched by 37,000+ on Sounders live-stream.
     
  23. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's pretty similar to most things on TV. Those things are important. But there are few teams/players/races that can truly move the needle, especially when it comes to overcoming challenges of #1 and #2 above.

    Somewhere I have the game-by-games for like 2001 or 2002 on ESPN and there was a bump when New York played, and if New York played Chicago, there was a bump. But I don't recall if everything else was constant or not.

    (Okay, just checked, it was 2002. 18 Saturday 4pm ET telecasts averaged a .20 rating on ESPN2. Top-rated were Chicago at Dallas, DC United at San Jose, MetroStars at Chicago, MetroStars at Chicago (again), Columbus at San Jose and Chicago at DC United. Lowest-rated were Los Angeles at Colorado, Colorado at Los Angeles, New England at Columbus, Los Angeles at Chicago and New England at MetroStars.)
     
  24. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think we are learning more about the ratings this year because if I am not mistaken, this is the very first year we have ever had the chance to see individual ratings on a weekly basis and study them.

    In the past we were lucky to get some random summary of ratings at the end of the season and people would have to make poorly educated guesses on what was going on.
     
  25. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And some of those included MAJAH MAHKETS.
     

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