MLS to affiliate with USL PRO clubs

Discussion in 'United Soccer Leagues' started by mbsc, Jul 11, 2012.

  1. Macsen

    Macsen Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 5, 2007
    Orlando
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rufnex: Dafuq?
     
  2. USRufnex

    USRufnex Red Card

    Tulsa Athletic / Sheffield United
    United States
    Jul 15, 2000
    Tulsa, OK
    Club:
    --other--
  3. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ...
    Any word out of USL or MLS camps which players might be heading USL Pro' s way?
     
  4. EvilTree

    EvilTree Member+

    Canadian S.C
    Canada
    Nov 20, 2007
    Frozen Swampland, Soviet Canuckistan
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
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  5. Macsen

    Macsen Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 5, 2007
    Orlando
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And people raise their eyebrows at Bronies...

    :p
     
  6. cflsteve

    cflsteve Member

    Jul 21, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I would have to say that sounds like avery good thing for the Whitecaps and soccer in Vancouver in general.
    Partnering with the Canucks in anyway is a nice backer to have.
    It has been rumored That the Canucks still would like to get the NBA team back in Vancouver and are possible rumererd buyers for the CFL BC Lions.
    The Flames LP are going that route adding more teams why not the Canucks.
     
  7. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Lions are for sale?
     
  8. cflsteve

    cflsteve Member

    Jul 21, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Oh yes Braley has made a statement earlier that he would like to sell both the Argos and Lions within the next 3 seasons and retire. They are definitately available anytime for the right price and the right situation and I can't see a better wituation than the Canucks taking the Hockey Canadian Football opposite season synergy.
    Talk of an NBA franchise is realy not realistic at this time but the Lions are Canucks are looking to expand their sports operations.
    A USL Pro and a CFL franchise are much more inexpensive then an NBA team but still gives them alot of extra dates to cross promote the Canucks with those teams and vise versa.
    Skies the limit for the Lions with good marketing andsynergy to promote. They have the best football stadium in the CFL andVancouver and the BC province are the CFL's go to city when there are any Grey Cup issues.
     
  9. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting the college players. Guess they're ending their college careers? Also it does appear the bulk of the team is actually still USL guys rather than loans from above or below. In fact they're only sending the minimum down. Wonder if that's because of who they're playing or because that's what they'll be doing on a regular basis.
     
  11. Macsen

    Macsen Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 5, 2007
    Orlando
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They are probably trialists. Orlando has youth trialists all the time; we have three right now. As long as they don't sign a pro contract and get paid, they can play friendlies.
     
  12. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are you sure? Thought the NCAA rules forbade them from playing with a pro team even if not being compensated.
     
  13. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If they're NCAA student-athletes with eligibility remaining....they won't have eligibility remaining.

    But Nick Shackleford was a senior in the fall of 2013. My guess is his eligibility is over.

    Alejandro Covarrubias was a junior at CSUDH in the fall of 2013, but is 22 and might, for all we know, have graduated and decided to turn pro. He was undrafted.

    Lee Nishanian was a senior at Cal State San Bernardino in the fall of 2013.

    Abraham Campos was also a senior at Incarnate Word in the fall of 2013.

    It appears as though three of the four may not have had eligibility to jeopardize. And Covarrubias may have just decided to go pro.
     
  14. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ah see that's the information that was missing to make it make sense. No one listed their ages. If they're as old as you say then its obviously not a problem.
     
  15. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  16. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm hearing Dallas will have an affiliate this year. We'll see.
     
  17. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Weren't they on the schedule already as a reserve team? I mean I guess it's possible they just pull their reserve team games off if they partner. And if that's the case I wonder if the now league owned Chivas won't do the same thing with the Blues.
     
  18. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  19. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Affiliate is a different animal from fielding their own team. Affiliate would mean partnering with an existing USL squad, who is already on the schedule. In this case it would either be the Blues or Phoenix (since Charlotte is their own beast and everyone else has a dance partner). Unless they pull a Sacramento type double up, but that doesn't seem likely given the unique circumstances that led to Sac having two MLS affiliates.
     
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  20. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    gotcha, thanks Athletics...I'm sure that Kenn will take me to task shortly...lol
     
  21. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Those decisions would be made by whoever runs Chivas in the next few weeks, I figure. We'll see.
     
  22. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So I take it Dallas is looking Phoenix's way?
     
  23. cflsteve

    cflsteve Member

    Jul 21, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    That is a very good point about Chivas and the Rebrandeded Orange County now playing out of the U of Irvine soccer field or so I have read. Certainly with the league taking over Chivas it would be financialy beneficial to affiliate with a USL Pro team nearby instead of paying for their own reserve team.

    As for Dallas already pointed out Phoenix is the only other club left but I guess it could be done.
    Or as also mentioned possiblily doubling up with OKC this season with Dallas having its eyes possibally set on Tulsa for 2015.
     
  24. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So the Whitecaps loaned five guys to Charleston.

    One of them is Andrew Lewis.

    Isn't he the guy who was supposed to go to the Cosmos if he didn't stick in Vancouver? Wasn't that the whole kerfuffle?
     
  25. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is very strange. Also did they up the number of players that could be loaned?
     

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