I know it's kind of too early to think about it, but I found some interesting things going on. Recently Mexican clubs got kicked out of Copa Sudamericana. What about Copa Libertadores? The article says the review is in this month!!! Also, the Interliga contract with SUM is ending. I think it's got some implication to MLS, too. Hope CONCACAF and CONMEBO work somthing out good for both confederations. How about collaborated Cup? don't finish CCL and CopLib, but stop at some point to combine final stage like 6 from CONCACAF and 10 from CONMEBOL. http://www.concacaf.com/page/NewsDet...858189,00.html 06/30/2009 CONCACAF discontinues participation in Copa Sudamericana NEW YORK - CONCACAF has elected to discontinue participation in CONMEBOL's Copa Sudamericana. CONCACAF clubs from the United States, Mexico and Central America have taken part in the Copa Sudamericana since 2005, with Mexico's Pachuca being crowned champion in 2006. In 2005, CONCACAF reached an agreement with CONMEBOL to play in four editions of the South American club tournament. The agreement was satisfied with the appearance of Mexican clubs CD Guadalajara and San Luis competed in the 2008 edition. Now, with the CONCACAF Champions League in its second year and the higher level of activity in the confederation, CONCACAF has elected not to extend its relationship with CONMEBOL for the Sudamericana. "We regret that Mexico's Copa Sudamericana designees Monterrey and Puebla will not participate in the tournament due to CONCACAF's decision," CONCACAF General Secretary Chuck Blazer said. "However, we hope that both teams will have opportunity to participate in future CONCACAF competitions." "By contrast CONCACAF is committed to the 2010 Copa Libertadores and will utilize Interliga to qualify teams. In November the Executive Committee will review CONCACAF's future participation in the Libertadores."
this is blazer and the monkey warner doing what they can to screw over the most important markets from going to conmebol events...in concacaf the important markets are mexico and USA...... i'm sure the mexican FA is not pleased seeing how they really want no part of the currupt inventions of CONCACRAP.... USA is indifferent the federation has always been loyal to its region....... really ********ed up USA will never get better playing GARBAGE from the carribian or central america... and mexico no longer has any thing to prove in CONCACRAP for any of their team it really is a stroll thru to semis and finals on a constant basis.... the region is really really BELOW INFERIOR for any mexican club side... and last but not least forcing mexico to play means a higher tv money ape warner can steal from to fix his tree house and go on expensive vacations....
Where I come from it's considered impolite, at best, to call any black man (no matter how corrupt a low life lying thief he is) a monkey or ape. Yes, Jack Warner is a corrupt joke, but this is really over the top. As to the OP, can someone explain the difference between Copa Libertadores and Sudamerica. Is it like Champions League v Uefa Cup? If so, which is the more prestigious?
Copa Lib = Champions League Sudamerican = Europa League Anyways, MLS will never get into those championships before actually doing anything in the CCL. Any talk to the contrary is ludicrous.
Copa Libertadores is exactly like UEFA Champions League, hence more prestigious. Copa Sudamerica is kind of like Europa Cup, but since they are played at different time period, some of the teams that played in Copa Lib. participate in Copa Sud. but over all kind of like Champions League v Uefa Cup with Copa Lib more prestigious as Champions League. The winner of Copa Libertadores goes to the Club World Cup. That's another thing... what if a Mexican club wins it? By the way did you know DC United played a couple of times in Copa Sudamericana for finishing high in CCL?
Of course, MLS won't get in any time soon, but big potential is there. The current InterLiga might include MLS teams in the future!!
I remember DCUnited choking away a lead against Chile a few years ago. I was actually in Buenos Aires on business and shocked to see United on Argentine TV.
As far as I understood Mexico will send as many as 5 teams to the Copa Libertadores in 2010 (instead of the usual 3). This is to make up for last season when two FMF teams (Chivas and San Luis) were basically kicked-out of the tournament due to swine flu.
Then the 2nd place team goes to the CWC. Thats all this is about. The mexican teams were kicked out of the last Libertadores due to swine flu, so Mexico pulled out of all COMEMBOL events. As an apology, the two kicked out teams will return straight to the round of 16 and 3 new teams will play as usual. This has nothing to do with MLS.
We can't even beat teams fom TnT and Salvador and you want to go to Libertadores? are you f....g kidding me? How about MLS stop embarrassing itself at an international level (as low as CCL is rated) and then think of bigger and better. WHo eliminated Houston last month? a team that didn't score a single goal in 5 games and got two in 10 minutes against Houston.
FTP Blazer and Warner. Mexico has the best teams in Concacaf and with you USA economic power we have a carribean FCK running the show.
did I say now? however I see some big changes in 5 - 10 years. my point is COCACAF and CONMEBOL probably either need to kick out Mexico or have US in.
I'm surprised nobody has looked at this from other nation's point of views. Keeping our good teams in CONCACAF tournaments, will increase their competition level and raise their quality of play, therefore will increase the level of play USA and Mexico play against in our champions league.
mls offers nothing to libertadores or sudamericana,so until those big changes you speak of actualy happen MLS has no business in southamerica,and as to kicking out mexico of the tourneys that is purely a concacaf isue if it were for conmebol we could already be a permanent player there,the problem of everything is the loser lame concacaf officials that want us here because they are a bunch of lame losers.
I would love for other MLS teams to participate in Copa Libertadores. Let the rest of the league go down to South America for midweek matches and screw over the first half of their MLS season. You think CCL puts a burden on teams?!
to be fair, Houston could have moved on if it werent for that poor performance... they were ready to take 2nd place in the group... Houston also beat that same team earlier in the competition.... its quite easy to exaggerate the truth if you ignore the other facts.... EDIT* i dont disagree with you though... i dont think MLS should even consider tougher comp until they can at least consistently compete with Concacaf leagues...
sometimes its like arguing with 16 yr olds in here i agree that until MLS make some massive improvements and changes, this whole topic is moot... your argument was fine until you started throwing 'lame' and 'losers' around in every other sentence
yes, one of those massive changes would be having the MLS calendar changed... no way our teams in their current state could compete in all the tourneys and league games we already have, as well as the ones listed... things have to change first
Teams either go to CCL or Copa Lib. Something like: The two regular season conference champs go to Copa Lib. MLS Cup winner, runner up, USOC winner, runner up go to CCL. So, not much change really needed besides quality and depth of the teams.
That's like saying I could fly, I just need to change gravity and physics. There needs to be lots of change.
Why does this topic pop up over and over every 2-3 months? We cant even win the CCL...WHY would I want to see MLS teams get destroyed even worse in South America? Someone please let me know...DC couldnt even get past Chivas in the SudaAmericana(sp) a year or so ago
He's not talking about MLS but the CONCACAF officials. Really, there reason that CONCACAF gave for its decision was bullshit... "So Mexican teams can focus in the improved CCL"... give them some competition first.
