MLS Cup Playoffs All-Time Table

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  1. profiled

    profiled Moderator
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    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Looking at the table LA now has 99 playoff goals heading into the Western Conference finals.

    Next highest teams are DC and Chicago both with 60, though DC is still alive this year.
     
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  2. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    L.A. now have 102 playoff goals after the 3-0 win over Seattle on 11/11.

    D.C. now take sole possession of 2nd place at 61 goals, with the lone goal scored in the 1-3 loss to Houston on the same day.
     
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  3. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    62
     
  4. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    Oh yes, good catch, forgot about the goal D.C. scored against N.Y. on 11/8.

    The all-time table will be updated again, upon the completion of 2012 playoffs.
     
  5. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    This thread is really good, but I wish there was some sort of AAQ ranking for teams based on things like average standing at end of regular season combined with playoff run, combined with other factors while taking into account the amount of seasons the team has been in the league, and the percentage of teams that make the playoffs with each year weighted differently based on how easy it is to get in (ex: 1998 wouldn't be weighted as heavily on making the playoffs because of ease vs. 2010-2012) or something like that.

    Anyway thanks for the table and good work!
     
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  6. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    Just some potentially interesting observations to share:


    1. If L.A. were to win MLS Cup 2012, they will be the first championship team to do so despite having lost 2 games in regulation during the playoff campaign.

    Prior to 2012, the most losses suffered by a championship team was just once, even during the '96-02 era, where a team can technically lose 2 games in playoffs (once each in the 3-game series for conference semi and conference final) and still win the cup.


    2. If L.A. were to lose the final, they will join Chicago Fire of 2000 as the only other finalist with the most number of losses (3) in a playoff campaign.


    3. It's worth noting that each of Houston's 2 previous MLS Cup winning campaign ('06, '07) has included a regulation loss (in conference semi final), this scenario will be repeated if they win the cup in 2012, as the only team to achieve it 3 times.

    Curiously, the S.J. team in '01 & '03 also won the cup with 1 regulation loss in each season.


    4. In 2012, L.A. and Houston have jointly set a new record for playing the most number of regular season + playoffs games in a season (40 = 34 in reg. season + 6 in playoffs).

    The previous record was 39, set by K.C. and Chicago in 2000 (32 in regular season + 7 in playoffs).


    5. Through 2012 conference final, other than the 2 finalists, the rest of the playoff teams all had the same goal difference of -1, coincidentally:

    # Team P W D L GS GA "Pts" GD
    1 Houston 5 3 1 1 8 4 10 +4
    2 L.A. 5 3 0 2 9 5 9 +4
    - - - - - - - - - -
    3 Seattle 4 2 1 1 3 4 7 -1
    4 D.C. 4 1 2 1 4 5 5 -1
    - - - - - - - - - -
    5 S.J. 2 1 0 1 2 3 3 -1
    6 K.C. 2 1 0 1 1 2 3 -1
    7 N.Y. 2 1 0 1 1 2 3 -1
    8 RSL 2 1 0 1 0 1 3 -1
    - - - - - - - - - -
    9 Chicago 1 0 0 1 1 2 0 -1
    10 Vancouver 1 0 0 1 1 2 0 -1


    6. Seattle would have the scant consolation of finishing 3rd in MLS Playoffs 2012, ahead of D.C. :p
     
  7. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    It's official: L.A. are the first MLS Cup winners with 2 losses in regulation during a playoff campaign.
    Through 2012 final, other than the 2 finalists, the rest of the playoff teams all had the same goal difference of -1, coincidentally:

    # Team P W D L GS GA "Pts" GD
    1 L.A. 6 4 0 2 12 6 12 +6
    2 Houston 6 3 1 2 9 7 10 +2
    - - - - - - - - - -
    3 Seattle 4 2 1 1 3 4 7 -1
    4 D.C. 4 1 2 1 4 5 5 -1
    - - - - - - - - - -
    5 S.J. 2 1 0 1 2 3 3 -1
    6 K.C. 2 1 0 1 1 2 3 -1
    7 N.Y. 2 1 0 1 1 2 3 -1
    8 RSL 2 1 0 1 0 1 3 -1
    - - - - - - - - - -
    9 Chicago 1 0 0 1 1 2 0 -1
    10 Vancouver 1 0 0 1 1 2 0 -1
     
  8. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    Updated through 2012 Playoffs: (Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Soccer_records_and_statistics#All-Time_Playoffs_Records_.2A)

    Rank by Pts Club Appearances
    vs Seasons
    Appearances
    Percetages
    GP W L T SOW GF GA GD Pts PPG Rank by PPG
    1 Los Angeles Galaxy 14 / 17 81.25% 62 38 18 6 1 106 69 +37 118 1.903 1
    2 D.C. United 10 / 17 58.82% 40 24 10 6 3 64 48 +16 72 1.800 2
    3 Chicago Fire 12 / 15 80.00% 43 21 16 6 2 61 41 +20 65 1.512 5
    4 Sporting Kansas City 11 / 17 64.71% 37 15 17 5 1 50 51 -1 51 1.379 7
    5 Columbus Crew 11 / 17 64.71% 35 15 16 4 1 49 53 -4 47 1.343 8
    6 New England Revolution 10 / 17 58.82% 34 13 13 8 0 34 39 -5 47 1.382 6
    7 Houston Dynamo 6 / 7 83.33% 23 12 7 4 0 31 22 +9 40 1.739 3
    8 Colorado Rapids 11 / 17 64.71% 34 12 18 4 0 33 49 -16 40 1.176 10
    9 San Jose Earthquakes 8 / 15 53.33% 24 12 11 1 0 37 32 +5 37 1.542 4
    10 New York Red Bulls 13 / 17 76.47% 34 11 18 5 1 39 51 -12 36 1.059 12
    11 FC Dallas 12 / 17 70.59% 34 11 19 4 2 45 62 -14 33 0.971 13
    12 Real Salt Lake 4 / 8 50.00% 12 5 5 4 0 14 15 -1 16 1.333 9
    13 Seattle Sounders FC 4 / 4 100.00% 10 3 5 2 0 6 11 -5 11 1.100 11
    14 Miami Fusion 3 / 4 75.00% 10 3 7 0 0 6 13 -7 9 0.900 14
    15 Chivas USA 4 / 8 50.00% 8 1 4 3 0 6 10 -4 6 0.750 15
    16 Tampa Bay Mutiny 4 / 6 66.67% 11 2 9 0 0 12 23 -11 6 0.545 16
    17 Vancouver Whitecaps FC 1 / 2 50.00% 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 -1 0 0.000 17=
    18 Philadelphia Union 1 / 3 33.33% 2 0 2 0 0 1 3 -2 0 0.000 17=
    19 Montreal Impact 0 / 1 00.00% 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 17=
    20 Portland Timbers 0 / 2 00.00% 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 17=
    21 Toronto FC 0 / 6 00.00% 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 17=


    Highlights:

    1. L.A. are the only club with >100 goals scored and >100 playoffs "points".

    2. Seattle remain the only club with 100% playoffs qualifications.

    3. Houston now have equal number of "points" as Colorado, despite playing 10 season less.

    4. Congrats to Vancouver for the 1st playoffs appearance, hopefully the 1st point / win will come soon.

    5. Better luck to Montreal, Portland and Toronto next season...
     
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  9. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    #34 henryo, Oct 29, 2013
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2013
    It's playoff time!!

    And time for a re-look at this... :)

    As Portland and Montreal made the playoffs in 2013,
    TFC are left alone as the only team not to have qualified for playoffs EVER.

    Now we know, why TFC were so desperate to beat off Montreal in the final game of 2013, for some good/bad company, :p

    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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  10. Hachiko

    Hachiko The Akita on Big Soccer

    Jun 8, 2005
    Long Beach, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Doesn't look like LA will be caught this year.
     
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  11. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    #36 henryo, Oct 29, 2013
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2013
    Yes, L.A. will remain on top by all-time points through 2013 playoffs, given that:

    1. The closest challengers, D.C. and Chicago, are out of the playoffs this season.
    2. The maximum # of games possible are 5 (hence 15 points up for grabs) for the #1 to #3 seeds in each conference.
    3. The maximum # of games possible are 6 (hence 18 points up for grabs) for the #4 to #5 seeds in each conference.
    4. Base on the teams that have qualified for playoffs, none of them will be able to amass enough points to catch L.A.

    It's not even close...
     
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  12. Hachiko

    Hachiko The Akita on Big Soccer

    Jun 8, 2005
    Long Beach, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    :D
     
  13. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think some of stats are wrong, They have Vancouver 0 (GF) 1 (GA), they lost 1-2 to Los Angeles last year. And I think they gave wins to teams that should be a tie, game going into PK's count as a tie not a win (I think that's what was done).
     
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  14. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    PCT wise DC is leading Los Angeles (.675 to .661)
     
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  15. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    #40 henryo, Nov 7, 2013
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2013
    The other team hot on the heels of D.C. & L.A. would be Houston, at 0.609...
    (which is still improving as they amass more wins/ties in their 2013 playoffs run)

    By the way, just some Playoffs Trivia to share with:
    • Longest Winning Run:
      13 (incl. SO Wins) by D.C. in 1996-98. (for @Knave :))
      D.C. also holds the record of 6-straight playoff wins in Regulation Time (1996-97).

    • Longest Unbeaten Run:
      13 by D.C. (1996-98) as above.
      The next best run should be 10, by L.A. in 2005-10. (for @Hachiko :))

    • Longest Losing Run: 8 by Tampa Bay in 1996-00.

    • Longest Winless Run: 9 by Colorado in 1997-02. (for @JasonMa :p)

    • Longest Run Playing the Same Team: 7 Games, Dallas vs Colorado in 2002-06.

    • Largest Playoffs Upset:
      • #1 Seed N.Y. eliminated by #9 Seed Houston in 2013.
        Previous Records:
        • #1 Seed S.J. eliminated by #8 Seed L.A. in 2005 & 2012,
        • #1 Seed CLB. eliminated by #8 Seed RSL. in 2009.
     
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  16. Hachiko

    Hachiko The Akita on Big Soccer

    Jun 8, 2005
    Long Beach, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I love unbeaten runs.
     
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  17. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    #42 henryo, Nov 7, 2013
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2013
  18. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    Updated through 2013 Playoffs:
    (Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Soccer_records_and_statistics#All-Time_Playoffs_Records_.2A)

    Rank
    by Pts
    Club Playoff
    Appearances
    vs Seasons
    Playoff
    Appearances
    Percentages
    GP W L T SOW GF GA GD Pts PPG Rank
    by PPG
    1 Los Angeles Galaxy 15 / 18 83.33% 64 39 19 6 1 107 71 +36 121 1.891 1
    2 D.C. United 10 / 18 55.56% 40 24 10 6 3 63 48 +16 72 1.800 2
    3 Chicago Fire 12 / 16 75.00% 43 21 16 6 2 61 41 +20 65 1.512 5
    4 Sporting Kansas City 12 / 18 66.66% 42 17 18 7 1 56 55 +1 56 1.333 10
    5 New England Revolution 11 / 18 61.11% 36 14 14 8 0 37 43 -6 50 1.389 8
    6 Houston Dynamo 7 / 8 87.50% 28 14 8 6 0 39 27 +12 48 1.714 3
    7 Columbus Crew 11 / 18 61.11% 35 15 16 4 1 49 53 -4 47 1.343 9
    8 Colorado Rapids 12 / 18 66.66% 35 12 19 4 0 33 52 -19 40 1.143 11
    9 San Jose Earthquakes 8 / 16 50.00% 24 12 11 1 0 37 32 +5 37 1.542 4
    10 New York Red Bulls 14 / 18 77.78% 36 10 19 7 1 42 55 -13 35 0.972 13
    11 FC Dallas 12 / 18 66.66% 34 11 19 4 2 45 62 -14 33 0.971 14
    12 Real Salt Lake 6 / 9 66.66% 19 7 6 6 0 22 19 +3 27 1.421 7
    13 Seattle Sounders FC 5 / 5 100.00% 13 4 7 2 0 11 16 -5 14 1.077 12
    14 Miami Fusion 3 / 4 75.00% 10 3 7 0 0 6 13 -7 9 0.900 15
    15 Chivas USA 4 / 9 44.44% 8 1 4 3 0 6 10 -4 6 0.750 16
    16 Tampa Bay Mutiny 4 / 6 66.67% 11 2 9 0 0 12 23 -11 6 0.545 17
    17 Vancouver Whitecaps FC 1 / 3 33.33% 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 -1 0 0.000 18=
    18 Philadelphia Union 1 / 4 25.00% 2 0 2 0 0 1 3 -2 0 0.000 18=
    19 Montreal Impact 1 / 2 50.00% 1 0 1 0 0 0 3 -3 0 0.000 18=
    20 Portland Timbers 1 / 3 33.33% 4 2 2 0 0 7 8 -1 6 1.500 6
    21 Toronto FC 0 / 7 00.00% 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.000 18=


    Highlights:

    1. L.A. are still the only club with >100 goals scored and >100 playoffs "points".

    2. Seattle remain the only club with 100% playoffs qualifications.

    3. Despite their 2 MLS Cup titles in 2000 & 2013, SKC are surprisingly only 10th in terms of PPG, behind title-less Portland & N.E....

    4. Congrats to Portland & Montreal for their first playoffs appearances in 2013!

    5. Better luck to Toronto next season, they are now the lone team among 21 that never made the playoffs!!​
     

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