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Discussion in 'NY/NJ Off Topic' started by netsfan549, Jul 24, 2011.
Why is redbullmetrostars, a Cosmos Marketing Team supporter, allowed to troll here?
This is the stupidest shit I've ever read on BigSoccer.
well, with AF at least, baseball no.
sorry but the only thing i can think of when i hear American football is some big fat ******** shirtless (with 10 of friends having something written across their stomachs) with a budweiser in his hand screaming "D-FENSE!!!!" thinking it's something amazing, who also thinks he's watching the "hardest" sport on the face of the planet (though never watched rugby or hurling).
- if not at the game, some guy drinking a budweiser watching 10 hours of commercials in a TV trance, only getting up to grab a burger or use the bathroom...but even those two are asking to much in order to leave the couch.
and no, i don't support the Cosmos. I support a team coming to NY.
You tell people that American Football teams like the Jets and Giants playing in NJ and being called NY is irrelevant and then bring up cricket and Mexican border towns? Congrats, I also know that English cricket teams are named after counties. I also know that English counties have no relation to our counties and English cricket is completely irrelevant to your ideas. I'm well-versed enough to not need a fake West Ham fan lecturing me about world soccer. You get no more credibility by calling it football even though you're American. We're talking about the American sporting landscape and the teams are named after the New York metro area which includes parts of NY, NJ, and Conn. Accept it or not, it's the fact of the matter.
Once again, the New York Giants/Jets/Knicks/Yankees/Mets/Rangers are named New York because of New York City, not New York State.
And great, leave here and go to the appropriate forum.
Run along. You've made a sufficient fool of yourself with your rantings about shirtless American Football fans and the idea that a soccer team in Montauk would be more appropriate than a team in Harrison.
How could you be so sure? But good guess, my dad's from the area, which means i've been bleeding claret and blue since the womb. nice try for a jab though
I would imagine though, you jumped the Everton band-wagon...because of....umm... Tim Howard? Did you start watching football in 2006 when he moved to Everton? So don't try lecturing me about footy.
That's the thing, knicks, mets, rangers are in NY.
But why is it the NEW JERSEY DEVILS?? Surely, according to you, they should be the New York Devils. Funny how you mention everyone, except the team with NEW JERSEY for a name.
to quote you
what i said was
well versed, but obviously can't read. so stop putting words in my mouth because the word (or synonym for that matter) irrelevant never came out of my mouth. U shud keep lurning how to reed.
Like i said
keep riding our dicks. there's plenty to go around.
OH! EDIT! I purpose a petition, that teh New York Rangers, now become the New Jersey Rangers, after all, it's only 20 mins away
there's always some one out there.
Oh, so you were born in America yet call it footy? I enjoy that.
Shall I scan and email you my UK passport?
Different teams take different approaches as most people understand. Stockport County appeals to the County, New Jersey Nets appeals to the state, most teams in this country and in this area appeal to the metro area. It's not a difficult concept.
Your dicks? You really think that people attach the name New York to teams and other things because of Long Island? Bravo.
yup! simple concept! foot + ball = football (footy for short)
well, now that they don't have that British sibject law, if you look like me, ill borrow it so i can move there (if it looks like me, then your one sexy bitch)
I think most American sports franchises, for the most part, are based within the confines of the city in their name. I think to be honest, the State in the team name for the most part is just a NY thing.
Minus a few baseball teams (not including NY), most i would say are to the city not the state. Texas Rangers, Arizona, Colorodo, Minnesota, Florida are the only ones. 5 out of 30.
i only counted 3 NFL (outside of NY that is) that use the State.
we do have the Long Island Rough Riders
That's why they play near the metropolitan area of Kansas City, Missouri. Hence, calling their teams 'Kansas City _____'.
Silly twat, intelligence is for adults!
*sigh* It was intended to be an imperfect comparison to illustrate how state/city proximity and cities named after their state can lead to unique situations. I thought that the word "much like" instead of "exactly like" conveyed that.
In the case of Kansas City, you have two separate cities both named Kansas City in two different states. Kansas City, Missouri's metro area has 2 million people and Kansas City, Kansas has 150k. We all know about Kansas City because of Kansas City, Missouri yet some of their teams--including Sporting Kansas City--play in Kansas City, Kansas because it's still in the metro area. Kind of like NYC teams playing in New Jersey even though it's outside of the city and state. KCK just happens to have the same city name as the other city; teams are not located in KCK because of KCK, it's because of KCM.
NYC's unique situation is that is has the same name of its state. Look up most New York team's official descriptions; they exist to represent the NYC metro area, not New York State.
Sorry, I didn't feel like ending my response with a juvenile saying like you always do.
This would all make sense, if the Red Bulls played in New York, New Jersey. But they don't, they play in Harrison, NJ, just borrowing the New York moniker from the metro area, completely opposite from your Kansas City comparison, because there is both a Kansas City, MO and Kansas City, KS.
Once again, it is not a direct comparison. I am pointing out another instance of a quirky state name/city name/teams in metro areas that is a bit atypical.
Let me phrase it this way: The Los Angeles Galaxy are named after the city of Los Angeles. They do not play in Los Angeles. The Chicago Fire are named after the city of Chicago. They do not play in Chicago. Dallas Cowboys in Irving. And obviously there are many other examples. The New York Red Bulls are named after the city of New York. They do not play in New York (but are closer to the city and more accessible than most examples).
It's really not an issue.
I understand your comparisons, I just do not feel that Kansas City is an appropriate one.
That is all. Carry on.
Eh, the country's full of similar situations with their own twists on it. The Redskins don't play in the District, play in a different state, but they're not to call themselves the Maryland Redskins.
If you're not in favor of that practice, that's fine; everyone is entitled to their opinion. But don't act like what we have is some kind of unique or strange scenario.
Trust me, we are in no way unique. I personally do not care for it, and would love to see the NASL/USL promote more medium to smaller sized cities starting their own teams playing within their own city limits.
And, until less than 10 years ago, Redskins did play in DC...
Might explain why they continue to have trouble selling tix or getting a decent share of media attention, even when they were lifting Cups. They are always counted among the NY major league sports franchises, but soon they'll be the only one left with a nod to the Garden State in their name. But a state is not a market. South Jersey sports fans are almost all Philly sports fans. Embracing a "NJ" identity has never proven beneficial for any sports franchise. Just ask the Nets.
A simple concept called Designated Market Area. Not all that complex, it explains why sports franchises often take the name of the region/market in which they play, rather than some strict geographic designation of where they have their offices and/or host home games.
As I approach on gameday, with the Manhattan skyline framing Red Bull Arena, I often laugh at the absurd claim that this isn't a NY team.
Don't forget that in Cincinnati, Ohio those who live on the other side of the river into the state of Kentucky, they root for the Reds in Baseball & the Bengals in the NFL. Only the University is their big rooting intrest.
Just wait until all the anti-fans in this area get all out of sorts when Formula One comes to New York, to a track to be built in... Weehawken. The Manhattan skyline will be in the background, but it won't be real New York of course, like a race in Staten Island would be.
Would be on the streets of Weehawken and West New York, with the Manhattan skyline as backdrop.
Obviously Ecclestone's only interested in marketing to Garden State residents and has no interest or regard for "real NYers."