MLS 2014 Week 7 Continuous PBP [Multiple R]

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by ImaPuppy, Apr 16, 2014.

  1. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    Man, Barrera looks so good on the ball but almost always makes the wrong decision. What a shame.
     
  2. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I enjoy mocking Bofo as much as anyone else, but he has distributed the ball very well in his time on the field tonight.
     
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  3. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    Much better from Yedlin, giving the outside there without over-committing.
     
  4. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jeez, 26 fouls. Bravo Chivas.
     
  5. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    And that's a wrap
     
  6. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    The first step to being as good as SKC is fouling as much as them. Progress!
     
  7. Berks

    Berks Member+

    Dec 22, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We are going to have a ton of suspensions next week, right?
     
  8. gblfxt

    gblfxt Member

    Aug 24, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    from behind again... cannot get that opening goal?
     
  9. CrazyDCFan

    CrazyDCFan Member

    Mar 31, 2002
    Henan, China
    Andddddddddddddddddddddddd scene.
     
  10. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    This weekend would have been so much better if United had held onto that damn lead ...
     
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  11. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So what can Yedlin be blamed for today? Oh he made a poor foul in the first half.
     
  12. Sounder

    Sounder Member

    Apr 29, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This season has pretty much been the hack-a-sounder show.
     
  13. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    I thought his service was generally good tonight. Had a few shaky defensive moments (the foul, the clearing header that was inexplicably pass-looking) but ultimately nothing that cost you guys.
     
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  14. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kenny Cooper on the bench is a good look.
     
  15. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He had some very good defensive moments as well. He's much better with an honest RM, who tracks back, in front of him.
     
  16. THOMA GOL

    THOMA GOL BigSoccer Supporter

    Jul 16, 1999
    Frontier
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What I miss?:unsure:
     
  17. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    Yeah I thought he had some good defensive moments too. He was good today overall..but inconsistent in judgement (this is expected, but is also something that will get him in a lot of trouble against good teams at the next level).

    People think I'm harsh on the guy but the reality is that I'm harsh because I have high expectations..much in the same way that people have high (and sometimes unfair) expectations of Donovan. Not saying Yedlin is Donovan, but he has loads of potential so I hold him to a higher standard than players I take less seriously as prospects.
     
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  18. gstommylee

    gstommylee Member+

    Oct 3, 2008
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    A studs stump is a straight red. No idea what was up with our booth guys today it was so anti-seattle at times.

    Chivas USA is very very lucky to still have 10 guys on the field.
     
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  19. gstommylee

    gstommylee Member+

    Oct 3, 2008
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Yea Evans getting back to starting will address that issue
     
  20. gstommylee

    gstommylee Member+

    Oct 3, 2008
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Seattle wasn't wanting to keep rosales as a DP and wanted to give him a pay cut. Rosales said no thus the trade
     
  21. Mateofelipe

    Mateofelipe Member+

    Mar 10, 2001
    Spokane, WA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There have been a number of excellent combinations in MLS over the years. Donovan and Ching is the most underestimated and most underappreciated by USMNT coaches. Donovan and Keane is obviously a good one. Magee and that underwear model. Martins and Dempsey is obviously a bright spot, threatened only by Martins' propensity to change teams more often than some people change underwear. He deserves an offer of a raise to encourage him to stay. He is fit, he works hard, he passes well, he finishes well, he reads the game well, he combines well with his teammates. Other than that, he sucks.
     
  22. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    For a player of his caliber and pedigree I think his finishing since coming to MLS has been pretty disappointing, personally.

    Agree with the rest of the assessment though.
     
  23. EvilTree

    EvilTree Member+

    Canadian S.C
    Canada
    Nov 20, 2007
    Frozen Swampland, Soviet Canuckistan
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    a comb
     
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  24. Mateofelipe

    Mateofelipe Member+

    Mar 10, 2001
    Spokane, WA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How many excel him in goals and assists per ninety minutes?
     
  25. ImaPuppy

    ImaPuppy Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Using too many parentheses
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    American Samoa
    #1175 ImaPuppy, Apr 20, 2014
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2014
    Off the top of my head I'm honestly not sure, nor do I have the time to go through those statistics right now. I will say that simply counting goals scored isn't the way I would measure whether someone is a good finisher or not..rather, I would measure it by how many shots/chances were converted. I would score someone who has scored 5 goals in 15 shots as a better finisher than someone who has scored 10 goals in 60..for example.

    Even then, I would need time to look at Oba's stats but on eyeball test alone (since I watched him all last season), I came away disappointed by his general finishing ability and remember thinking multiple times that he should have scored when he didn't..again, for a player of his clear talent.

    Edit: Also, when talking about finishing, why would you include assists/90 min? That doesn't make sense. I know he's a good passer of the ball, I'm not challenging that claim.

    Going by your criteria..

    In 2014, on G/90 he is at .17, which puts him somewhere around 75th in the league.

    Last year he was at .49, which was good for about 35th in the league.

    I'm not trying to bash the guy, just saying that based on his finishing ability since he came into the league, I wouldn't consider it that "good" considering he plays up top.
     

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