Hi all, Happy New Year! This will be the new thread for the 2014 season regarding everything related to MLS on TV. In this thread we can talk about schedules, tv slots, tv stations, tv contracts, general soccer ratings, other sports and TV shows ratings as relates to MLS and of course track and try to speak on MLS TV ratings week to week. The first few posts in this thread will be dedicated to data so that there is always an easy reference point for the historical information and then we can keep a running tab on the ratings in the thread as we did in previous seasons.
MLS 2013 Regular Season TV Ratings Summary Home teams listed first. All times are Eastern NBC Sports Network (all ratings for 2.5 hour window unless specified) Game 0: 95k (RSL vs SEA) Saturday 7:30pm 2/23/2013* Game 1: 107k (HOU vs DC). Saturday 8:00pm. 3/2/2013 Game 2: 79k (CHI vs NE) Saturday 7:30pm 3/9/2013 Game 3: 82k (KC vs CHI) Saturday 3:00pm 3/16/2013 Game 4: 209k (SEA vs POR) Saturday 8:00pm 3/16/2013 Game 5: 97k (DC vs COLU) Saturday 3:30pm 3/23/2013 Game 6: 100k (NY vs PHI) Saturday 3:30pm 3/30/2013 Game 7: 41k (COLO vs RSL) Saturday 7:30pm 4/6/2013 Game 8: 86k (DAL vs LA) Saturday 3:30pm 4/13/2013 Game 9: 108k (POR vs SJ) Sunday 10:30pm 4/14/2013 Game 10: 58k (LA vs KC) Saturday 10:30pm 4/21/2013 Game 11: 53k (MON vs CHI) Saturday 4:00pm 4/27/2013 Game 12: 122k (COLU vs NY) Saturday 4:00pm 5/4/2013 Game 13: 51k (CHI vs PHI) Saturday 1:30pm 5/11/2013 Game 14: 80k (KC vs HOU) Sunday 3:30pm 5/26/2013 Game 15: 96k (NE vs LA) Sunday 4:00pm 6/2/2013 Game 16: 149k (SEA vs VAN) Saturday 10:30pm 6/8/2013 Game 17: 133k (POR vs COLO) Sunday 7:00pm 6/23/2013 Game 18: 123k (PHI vs DAL) Saturday 5:30pm 6/29/2013 Game 19: 173k (VAN vs SEA) Saturday 11:00pm 7/6/2013 Game 20: 126k (POR vs LA) Saturday 11:00pm 7/13/2013 Game 21: 94k (HOU vs CHI) Saturday 8:00pm 7/27/2013 Game 22: 83k (KC vs NY) Saturday 6:30pm 8/3/2013 Game 23: 58k (PHI vs DC) Saturday 8:00pm 8/10/2013 Game 24: 110k (NY vs PHI) Saturday 8:00pm 8/17/2013 Game 25: 133k (CHI vs KC) Friday 8:30pm 8/23/2013 Game 26: 171k (RSL vs POR) Friday 10:00pm 8/30/2013 Game 27: 67k (NY vs DC) Saturday 8:00pm 8/31/2013 Game 28: 102k (SEA vs CHI) Saturday 10:00pm 9/7/2013 Game 29: 177k (SEA vs RSL) Friday 10:00pm 9/13/2013 Game 30: 131k (POR vs COL) Friday 10:00pm 9/20/2013 Game 31: 247k (LA vs SEA) Saturday 10:00pm 9/21/2013 Game 32: 98k (KC vs PHI) Friday 8:00pm 9/27/2013 Game 33: 89k (DC vs CHI) Friday 8:00pm 10/4/2013 Game 34: 183k (COLO vs SEA) Saturday 10:00pm 10/5/2013 Game 35: 83k(KC vs DC) Friday 8:00pm 10/18/2013 Game 36: 189k (PHI vs KC) Saturday 3:00pm 10/26/2013 Game 37: 68k (SJ vs DAL) Saturday 5:30pm 10/26/2013 Average: 103k (does not include Game 0) * This was the Preseason Diamond Cup final. ESPN2 (all ratings are for a 2.5 hour window unless specified) Game 1: 221k (POR vs NY) Sunday 7:30pm 3/3/2013 Game 2: 179k (SJ vs NY) Sunday 10:00pm 3/10/2013 Game 3: 108k (DAL vs HOU) Sunday 1:00pm 3/17/2013 Game 4: 157k (CHI vs NY) Sunday 5:00pm 4/7/2013 Game 5: 170k (DC vs PHI) Sunday 5:00pm 4/21/2013 Game 6: 145k (LA vs HOU) Sunday 11:00pm 5/5/2013 Game 7: 250k (LA vs NY) Sunday 1:00pm 5/19/2013* Game 8: 191k (LA vs SEA) Sunday 11:00pm 5/26/2013 Game 9: 393k (NY vs HOU) Sunday 2:00pm 6/30/2013** Game 10: 138k (COLO vs LA) Saturday 7:00pm 7/27/2013*** All-Star Game: 319k (MLS vs Roma) Wednesday 7:00pm 7/31/2013 Game 11: 184k (DAL vs LA) Sunday 8:00pm 8/11/2013 Game 12: 346k (SEA vs POR) Sunday 10:00pm 8/25/2013 Game 13: 82k (SJ vs PHI) Sunday 11:00pm 9/8/2013* Average: 197k (does not include All Star Game) *Window was 128 minutes **Window was only 80 minutes due to Confed Cup game running long ***Window was 126 minutes ESPN(all ratings are for ~2 hour window). Game 1: 262k (POR vs DAL) Saturday 5:00pm 6/15/2013 Game 2: 323k (PHI vs NY) Sunday 5:00pm 6/23/2013 Game 3: 331k (CHI vs KC) Sunday 3:00pm 7/7/2013 Game 4: 300k (SEA vs NY) Sunday 9:00pm 9/29/2013 Game 5: 189k (POR vs SEA) Sunday 9:00pm 10/13/2013 Game 6: 232k (LA vs SJ) Sunday 9:00pm 10/20/2013 Game 7: 247k (SEA vs LA) Sunday 9:00pm 10/27/2013 Average: 269K ESPNDeportes Average: 32k Unimas 26 games: 229k average (removed per MLSFan123, updated number below.) 23 games: 223k average NBC Game 1: (NY vs DC) Saturday 12:30pm 3/16/2013 Overnight: .7 Final: .3, 461k Game 2: (POR vs LA) Sunday 3:30pm 9/29/2013 Overnight: .3* Game 3: (DAL vs SEA) Saturday 2:30pm 10/19/2013 Final: .3, 395k Game 4: (DC vs HOU) Sunday 1:30pm 10/27/2013 Final: .2, 294k *Not sure if this is overnight or the fast national rating
2013 MLS Playoff TV Ratings Summary NBCSN Game 1: 158k (SEA vs COL) Wed 10:30pm 10/30/2013 Game 2: 142k (HOU vs MTL) Thu 8:30pm 10/31/2013 Game 3: 114k (NE vs KC) Sat 8:00pm 11/2/2013 Game 4: 233k (SEA vs POR) Sat 10:00pm 11/2/2013 Game 5: 195k (POR vs SEA) Thursday 11:00pm 11/7/2013 Game 6: 241k (KC vs HOU) Saturday 7:30pm 11/23/2013 Average: 181k ESPN2 Game 1: 182k (RSL vs LA) Thursday 9:00pm 11/7/2013 ESPN Game 1: 296k (LA vs RSL) Sun 9:00pm 11/3/2013 Game 2: 302k (RSL vs POR) Sun 9:00pm 11/10/2013 Game 3: 271k (POR vs RSL) Sun 9:00pm 11/24/2013 ESPN/ESPN Average: 263k NBC Game 1: ? (NY vs HOU) Sun 3:30pm 11/3/2013 Game 2: ? (HOU vs KC) Sat 2:30pm 11/9/2013 2013 MLS Cup (KC vs RSL) Sat 4:00pm 12/7/2013 505k on ESPN, 514k on Unimas
2012 Regular Season TV Ratings Home teams listed first. All times are Eastern NBC Sports Network (all ratings for 2.5 hour window unless specified) Game 1: 82k (Dal vs NY). Sunday 3:00pm. 3/11/2012 Game 2: 124/145k (2.5 hour/two hour) (PHI vs COLO) Sunday 4:00pm. 3/18/2012 Game 3: 107k (2.5 hour) (SEA vs HOU) Friday 10:00pm 3/23/2012 Game 4: 76k (DC vs DAL) Friday 7:30pm 3/30/2012 Game 5: 123k (LA vs NE) Saturday 11:00pm 3/31/2012 Game 6: 126k/139k (2.5 hour/two hour) (PHI vs COLU) Saturday 4:00pm 4/14/2012 Game 7: 79k (CHI vs TOR) Saturday 3:30pm 4/21/2012 Game 8: 70k (NY vs NE) Saturday 3:30pm 4/28/2012 Game 9: 96k (SEA vs PHI) Saturday 4:00pm 5/5/2012 Game 10: 120k (HOU vs DC) Saturday 4:30pm 5/12/2012 Game 11: 71k (HOU vs LA) Saturday 2:30 5/26/2012 Game 12: 53k (KC vs SJ) Sunday 4:40 5/27/2012 Game 13: 63k (CHI vs NY) Sunday 5:00pm 6/17/2012 Game 14: 137k (NY vs DC) Sunday 7:00pm 6/24/2012 Game 15: 133k (KC vs CHI) Friday 8:00pm 6/29/2012 Game 16: 151k (SEA vs COLO) Saturday 11:00pm 7/7/2012 Game 17: 259k (POR vs LA) Saturday 11:00pm 7/14/2012 Game 18: 60k (SJ vs DAL) Wednesday 11:00pm 7/18/2012 Game 19: 392k (DAL vs LA) Saturday 8:00pm 7/28/2012 Game 20: 233k (PHI vs NE) Sunday 7:00pm 7/29/2012 Game 21: 148k (HOU vs NY) Friday 8:00pm 8/3/2012 Game 22: 405k (POR vs DAL) Sunday 7:00pm 8/5/2012 Game 23: 252k (NY vs HOU) Friday 8:00pm 8/10/2012 Game 24: 52k (COLU vs LA) Wednesday 7:00pm 8/15/2012* Game 25: 98k (DC vs PHI) Sunday 5:00pm 8/19/2012 Game 26: 40k (RSL vs PHI) Friday 7:30pm 8/24/2012 Game 27: 124k (DAL vs LA) Sunday 7:00pm 8/26/2012 Game 28: 121k (COLO vs POR) Friday 10:30pm 8/31/2012 Game 29: 143k (CHIV vs SJ) Sunday 9:00pm 9/2/2012 Game 30: 63k (DAL vs LA) Wednesday 9:00pm 9/5/2012 Game 31: 81k (KC vs HOU) Friday 8:30pm 9/14/2012 Game 32: 45k (RSL vs POR) Saturday 8:00pm 9/22/2012 Game 33: 94k (CHIC vs KC) Friday 8:30pm 9/28/2012 Game 34: 102k (VAN vs SEA) Saturday 9:00pm 9/29/2012 Game 35: 82k (LA vs RSL) Saturday 9:00pm 10/6/2012 Game 36: 101k (SEA vs RSL) Wednesday 10:00pm 10/17/2012 Game 37: 39k (HOU vs PHI) Saturday 7:30pm 10/20/2012 Game 38: 50k (KC vs PHI) Wednesday 8:30pm 10/24/2012 Game 39: 62k (CHI vs DC) Saturday 4:00pm 10/27/2012 Game 40: 101k (POR vs SJ) Saturday 6:30pm 10/27/2012 Average: 119k (includes just the 2.5 hour numbers) * This game overlapped with US @ Mexico friendly on ESPN2 and Univision ESPN2 (all ratings are for a 2 hour window) Game 1: 337k (POR vs PHI) Monday 9:30pm 3/12/2012 Game 2: 344k (DC vs NY) Sunday 6:00pm 4/22/2012 Game 3: 275k (PHI vs NY) Sunday 12:30pm 5/13/2012 Game 4: 146k (CHIV vs LA) Saturday 10:30pm 5/19/2012 Game 5: 213k (HOU vs Dal) Saturday 7:30pm 6/16/2012 Game 6: 320k (SJ vs LA) Saturday 10:00pm 6/30/2012 All Star Game: 530k (MLS vs Chelsea) Wednesday 8:30 7/25/2012 Game 7: 270k (SEA vs LA) Sunday 9:00pm 8/5/2012 Game 8: 163k (CHIV vs LA) Sunday 11:00pm 8/12/2012 Game 9: 130k (NY vs KC) Sunday 9:00pm 8/26/2012 Game 10: 125k (PHI vs DCU) Thursday 8:00pm 9/20/2012 Average: 232k (does not include all star game) ESPN (all ratings are for a 2 hour window) Game 1: 217k (NY vs COLO) Sunday 4:00pm 3/25/2012 Game 2: 215k (KC vs LA) Saturday 4:00pm 4/7/2012* Game 3: 508k (LA vs NY) Saturday 8:00pm 5/5/2012 Game 4: 888k (POR vs SEA) Sunday 5:00pm 6/24/2012** Game 5: 496k (LA vs CHI) Sunday 3:00pm 7/8/2012 Game 6: 344k (NY vs SEA) Sunday 4:00pm 7/15/2012 Game 7: 611k (NY vs PHI) Saturday 2:30pm 7/21/2012 Game 8: 290k (POR vs SEA) Sunday 9:00pm 10/7/2012 Game 9: 211k (SEA vs DAL) Sunday 9:00pm 10/21/2012 Game 10: 265k (LA vs SEA) Sunday 9:00pm 10/28/2012 Average: 405k ESPN/ESPN2 Combined Ratings: 20 games, 318k *Was moved from ESPN2 to ESPN **Had a period of time in first half that overlapped with Italy England Euro QF. The 888k represents only the MLS portion of the telecast. It does not include any of the Euro OT or PK ratings. NBC Game 1: 576k (.4 rating) (POR vs SEA) Saturday 3:30pm 9/15/2012 Game 2: ? (.4 rating) (CHI vs NY) Saturday 3:30pm 10/6/2012* Game 3: ? (.3 rating) (PHI vs NY) Saturday 1:30pm 10/27/2012* *While I don't know the exact ratings of each, we do know that the average of these two games was in the 575k range. (all NBC and NBCSN games averaged out to 151k) Galavision (all ratings are for a 2 hour window) Game 1: 90k (CHIV vs HOU) Sunday 7:00pm 3/11/2012 Game 2: 77k (LA vs DC) Sunday 7:00pm 3/18/2012 Game 3: 24k (KC vs DAL) Sunday 7:00pm 3/25/2012 Game 4: 31k (COLO vs CHI) Sunday 7:00pm 4/1/2012 Game 5: 45k (CHI vs HOU) Sunday 7:00pm 4/15/2012 Game 6: 34k (DAL vs COLO) Sunday 7:00pm 5/6/2012 Game 7: 66k (SJ vs CHIV) Sunday 7:00pm 5/13/2012 Game 8: ?? (POR vs CHI) Sunday 7:00pm 5/20/2012 Game 9: 23k (PHI vs DC) Saturday 7:00pm 6/16/2012 Game 10: 47k (DAL vs CHIV) Saturday 9:00pm 6/23/2012 Game 11: 44k (TOR vs NY) Saturday 9:00pm 6/30/2012 Game 12: 52k (HOU vs DC) Sunday 9:00pm 7/15/2012 Game 13: 31k (PHI vs CHI) Sunday 7:00pm 8/12/2012 Game 14: 104k (NY vs POR) Sunday 7:00pm 8/19/2012 Game 15: 128k (NY vs DC) Wednesday 8:00pm 8/29/2012 Game 16: 93k (HOU vs CHI) Sunday 7:00pm 9/2/2012 Game 17: 81k (Chiv vs DC) Sunday 7:00pm 9/23/2012 Game 18: 53k (LA vs Colo) Sunday 7:00pm 9/30/2012 Game 19: 42k (CHIV vs DAL) Sunday 7:00pm 10/7/2012 Game 20: 57k (SJ vs LA) Sunday 7:00pm 10/21/2012 Game 21: 20k (DAL vs CHIV) Sunday 7:00pm 10/28/2012 Average: 57k (for 20 games) Telefutura All Star Game: 358k (MLS vs Chelsea) Wednesday 8:30 7/25/2012
2012 Playoff TV Ratings Playoffs Game 1: 201k (CHI vs HOU) Wed 9:00pm 10/31/2012 ESPN2 Game 2: 142k (LA vs VAN) Thu 10:30pm 11/1/2012 NBCSN Game 3: 137k (SEA vs RSL) Fri Nov 2 10:00 NBCSN Game 4: 158k (DC vs NY) Sat Nov 3 7:56 NBCSN Game 5: ? (HOU vs KC) Sun Nov 4 3:30 NBC Game 6: 335k (LA vs SJ) Sun Nov 4 9:00 ESPN Game 7: 93k (KC vs HOU) Wed Nov 7 9:05 NBCSN Game 8: 424k (SJ vs LA) Wed Nov 7 11:13 ESPN2 Game 9: 125k (NY vs DC) Thu Nov 8 7:30 NBCSN Game 10: 94k (RSL vs SEA) Thu Nov 8 10:00 NBCSN Game 11: 59k (HOU vs DC) Sun Nov 11 4:00 NBCSN Game 12: 540k (LA vs SEA) Sun Nov 11 8:00 ESPN Game 13: 111k (DC vs HOU) Sun Nov 18 4:00 NBCSN Game 14: 485k (SEA vs LA) Sun Nov 18 9:00 ESPN 2012 MLS Cup (LA vs HOU) Sat Dec 1 4:30pm .7/797k on ESPN, 485k on Telefutura
Historical Data MLS Cup Through the Years 2013 Sat., 12/7/13 Sporting/Real Salt Lake ESPN 505k, Unimas 514k 2012 Sat., 12/1/12 Galaxy/Dynamo ESPN 797k, Telefutura 485k 2011 Sun., 11/20/11 Galaxy/Dynamo ESPN 0.6 1.039M 2010 Sun., 11/21/10 Rapids/FC Dallas ESPN 0.4 748k 2009 Sun., 11/22/09 Real Salt Lake/Galaxy ESPN 0.7 1.141M 2008 Sun., 11/23/08 Crew/Red Bulls ABC 0.6 907k 2007 Sun., 11/18/07 Dynamo/Revolution ABC 0.8 1.097M 2006 Sun., 11/12/06 Revolution/Dynamo ABC 0.8 1.245M 2005 Sun., 11/13/05 Galaxy/Revolution ABC 0.8 1.137M 2004 Sun., 11/14/04 Wizards/United ABC 0.8 2003 Sun., 11/23/03 Fire/Earthquakes ABC 0.6 876K 2002 Sun., 10/20/02 Revolution/Galaxy ABC 0.8 1.169M 2001 Sun., 10/21/01 Galaxy/Earthquakes ABC 1.0 2000 Sun., 10/15/00 Fire/Wizards ABC 0.7 1999 Sun., 11/21/99 United/Galaxy ABC 0.7 1998 Sun., 10/25/98 Fire/United ABC 1.0 1997 Sun., 10/26/97 Rapids/United ABC 1.4 1996 Sun., 10/20/96 United/Galaxy ABC 1.4 2011 Final Ratings ESPN: 4 games: 498k ESPN2: 17 games: 238k ESPN/ESPN2 Combined: 21 games: 288k FSC: 29 games: 71k Galavision: 18 games: 72k Telefutura: 12 games 233K rating All Star Game vs Man United: 781k Wed 8:30pm July 27, 2011 on ESPN2 2010 Final Ratings ESPN2: 25 games 249K FSC: 25 games 53k Telefutura: 23 games 211k All Star Game vs Man United: 714k Wed July 28, 2010 on ESPN2 2009 Final Ratings ESPN2: 22 games 284k FSC: 32 game 53k Telefutura: 24 games 229k ESPN Deportes: 69k* All Star Game vs Everton: 484k Wed July 29, 2009 on ESPN2 *number is only through games played as of Sept 14, 2009. I do not know if this is a complete number 2008 Final Ratings ESPN2: 27 games 253k (dedicated Thursday night slot) Telefutura: 26 games 254k ESPN Deportes: 40k 2007 Final Ratings ESPN2: 26 games 289k (dedicated Thursday night slot) Telefutura: 24 games 282k 2006 Final Ratings ESPN2: 21 games 263k
Sources (while they last) https://www.bigsoccer.com/community/threads/mls-2013-tv-ratings.1980451/ http://www.tvmediainsights.com/2012/07/major-league-soccer-tv-ratings-in-2012/ http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/.../ESPN-Booting-MLS-From-Its-Thursday-Slot.aspx http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/02/AR2007050202740.html http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Issues/2011/10/26/Research-and-Ratings/MLS-TV.aspx http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/...LS-Attendance-TV-Viewership-Numbers-Slip.aspx http://www.rslsoapbox.com/2012/3/22...ruggles-on-nbc-sports-while-real-salt-lake-on http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2010/11/record-low-rating-for-2010-mls-cup/ http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2010/07/big-jump-for-mls-all-star-game/ https://www.bigsoccer.com/community/threads/mls-tv-ratings.1845021/#post-24631720 https://www.bigsoccer.com/community/threads/tv-ratings.1742835/page-6#post-2423303
People to follow on twitter for MLS TV information include @SonOfTheBronx @MacN_ESPN @Ourand_SBJ @thegoalkeeper
http://www.latinopost.com/articles/...s-major-league-soccer-espn-nbc-nbc-sports.htm Univision's UniMas Draws More Major League Soccer Viewers Compared to ESPN & NBC Sports This Season UniMas: 223,000 viewers (in 65 million homes) ESPN2: 181,000 viewers (in 98.5 million homes) If MLS is on par with Liga MX today, MLS could benefit greatly from the increased TV rights (English and Spanish). The question is that does MLS owners want MLS to be as good as Liga MX in as little as a few years but at the cost of parity / level playing field?
Rabble rabble ratings! Harumph Harumph demographics! Blah blah TV contracts! There, 2014 thread complete.
What point are you trying to make? Even if it is free, it still does not have the household reach of ESPN's yet.
But is UniMas in more US TV HHLDs compared to ESPNDeportes? Free OTA content is unique (in some sense) as it reaches some viewers who would not have access otherwise. While OTA-only homes are not more than 1/7th of the US, there is value to MLS getting (some of) their media/broadcast content out free OTA. OTA homes have a smaller group of channels available to view, so having OTA delivery tends to increase the ratings for specific content (specifically within those OTA-only homes) -- relative to what that "same content" would get were it distributed otherwise. But yes, cable networks and subscription dollars are primarily driving the sports television business.
That group is pretty small now. The ESPN's reach ~100 million households and I think there are about ~115 million households in the US with a TV
I would guess Unimas is in more homes. I can't find any hard data on how many households have ESPN Deportes. ESPN states 5.3 million Hispanic cable households but that is just part of their reach. http://espnmediazone.com/us/espn-deportes-fact-sheet/
1/8 of all US Households is a "smallish" fraction. But ~15 million households (on their own) can not be classified as "pretty small" as an absolute number. OTA-only homes (or non-subscribing-to-pay-TV homes) are likely always going to be an important part of the business of sports-media-entertainment. (But admittedly not an all that important part or portion if/as pay options can achieve 80-85% domestic market penetration.) But the demographic composition of "MLS's audience" (or keenly a portion of that available audience that they are trying to and can reach) may indeed over-index in terms of being OTA-only (or non-pay-TV) homes.
In the past we talked a lot about how the WNBA did better on TV than MLS did last season. But TV is such a small part of the whole picture for these niche leagues. While MLS appears to be growing very quickly, it came to light yesterday that one of the WNBA's corner stone franchises is in deep trouble. The LA Sparks owners informed the WNBA that they could not afford the losses any more and would be leaving the league immediately and laid everyone off. The league is scrambling to find new owners as they never expected this to happen. The team lost $12 million since 2007, including $1.4 million last year. Interestingly, they decided to just drop the team instead of selling it which must mean it was almost worthless.
They probably have tried but had no luck. That does suck for the league. Better what MLS has with the lower average ratings and high attendance than what the WNBA has.
I think my post largely got ignored in the previous thread, but I find this bit of information interesting as I hadn't heard about this until then. http://www.sounderatheart.com/2013/12/9/5194346/sounders-moving-local-broadcasts-to-foxs-q13 So a MAX of 14 games on national networks for each team.
it's not just ratings vs attendance. i suspect mls teams have lost equal amounts of money along the way. if mls were going to blink at a loss of $1.4mil/year for its franchises, it would have folded already. but it's a matter of whether somebody reaches into his/her pocket to make it good. the problem for the wnba isn't just that it's not profitable, because neither is mls. the problem isn't that it's a sports league which has to piggy-back on rich owners to survive. the problem may be more that it's a sports league piggy-backing on another sports league piggy-backing on rich owners, and the owners are nearly as committed to their secondary toy.
You are missing the point. An MLS team that is supposedly struggling was just sold for $68 million. A WNBA team that was struggling was simply dropped because no one offered any money. That is the difference. The businessmen buying into MLS are not doing it for charity, as one lunatic suggested earlier. They are investing because they see the real value via SUM, low expenses and franchise values raising. The WNBA is currently where MLS was back in 2000/1. There is almost no comparison between the two leagues from a financial stand point any more. MLS is now wondering how big it can get WNBA is wondering who will take a cornerstone franchise in a huge market for free
Nice post. This last line is chilling from the perspective of the WNBA. They spent all last season trumpeting how well the league was doing and this latest development just puts a huge pin in that balloon. WNBA game day revenue has to be a huge concern (which is the exact opposite from MLS which has seen its game day revenues explode the last 6 years.). With the WNBA slowly moving away from NBA ownership, there are more and more places where they are likely to not even be paying the rent on the building. As much of a disaster that Chivas USA is, I bet there would be businessmen all over the country tripping over themselves to buy it for a cut rate price of say $30 million. The WNBA could only dream of such a scenario.
the fundamentals of the two leagues are are an important difference and are reflected in franchise valuations as noted. i think another important factor is the potential of the two leagues. there are no shortage of professional mens soccer leagues globally that have reached impressive financial heights. i won't get into the possible reasons why, but there is not a single female team sports league that has reached financial success of any kind to make investors sit up and take notice. i think the potential of MLS allowed investors to see past shaky fundamentals early on. female team sports leagues don't have that same potential, so investors have a lower tolerance for losses. you double down on a good bet, you cut your losses on a speculative bet you threw a couple dollars at.