MLS 2013 TV Ratings

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  1. Twix1138

    Twix1138 Member

    Jul 9, 2010
    #2476 Twix1138, Nov 2, 2013
    It seems like the big Seattle/Portland match will have football lines. So aggravating that every time we get a good match up on TV, it is always being screwed up by something (star players getting injured, football lines, 0-0 game, going up against exceptionally strong tv competition, etc.). It just seems like MLS is always so unlucky.
     
  2. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #2477 TheJoeGreene, Nov 2, 2013
    The fact that you compare football lines to the rest of those things, and assume that 0-0 = screwed up, is just annoying.
     
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  3. BlueIntent

    BlueIntent Member

    May 24, 2013
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    #2478 BlueIntent, Nov 2, 2013
    Nothing really, he just hates all other Scottish teams from top to bottom.. He just follows Rangers
     
  4. BalanceUT

    BalanceUT RSL and THFC!

    Oct 8, 2006
    Appalachia
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2479 BalanceUT, Nov 2, 2013
    The SKC vs NER match tonight has horrid NFL lines on the field. The soccer lines are virtually invisible.
     
  5. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2480 jond, Nov 3, 2013
    Starting to wonder? That was main concern brought up with the new EPL deal.

    The problem isn't local die hards. The problem is pulling in neutrals. Right now neutrals have plenty of and increasing access to the top leagues. But it's not just neutrals. Even MLS die hards here admit to not watching MLS matches not featuring their own team. If MLS diehards alone started watching more of the neutral matchups ratings would go up. If MLS diehards won't watch neutral matches in decent numbers, why would anyone expect non-MLS diehards to watch?
     
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  6. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2481 ceezmad, Nov 3, 2013
    1 team since Rangers is not in the SPL anymore.
     
  7. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2482 ceezmad, Nov 3, 2013
    I do in the CCL. But yes outside of the Fire and CCL games, I usually watch liga mx on saturday afternoons since I no longer have NBCSN
     
  8. holiday

    holiday Member+

    Oct 16, 2007
    #2483 holiday, Nov 3, 2013
    i'll say one reason why it's hard to get the neutrals to watch on tv...
    the lack of mainstream coverage.
    to repeat what i was saying earlier, most mls customers aren't 'fans' like you find for the major sports. lots of people at the last nyrb game didn't know about the ss. it's not their fault. they're good soccer customers. but whereas anyone can tell you whether the yankees are on a winning or a losing streak, and that the ny giants started 0-6, that kind of familiarity with mls is rare. why? largely because for the other sports all you need is to catch a sport report while driving your car, or a glance at the headline in a newspaper. for mls you have to go look.
    which is why moving to a different schedule won't make much difference. either you're mainstream, or you aren't. that's the key.
     
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  9. Fanatical Monk

    Fanatical Monk Member+

    Jun 14, 2011
    Fantasyland
    #2484 Fanatical Monk, Nov 4, 2013
    Really well said.

    This is a reason I think having a consistent television "home" for the league is important. NBCSN is small enough with the need for content, that I think they could make MLS mainstream on that particular network. NBCSN.....your home for all that is soccer. Something like that.
     
  10. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2485 ceezmad, Nov 4, 2013
    Isn't that gol tv?

    Plus all that is soccer would need La liga, Bundesliga, Serie A, Liga MX, Champions league on top of what NBC already has.
     
  11. Fanatical Monk

    Fanatical Monk Member+

    Jun 14, 2011
    Fantasyland
    #2486 Fanatical Monk, Nov 4, 2013
    I don't know that they'd literally have to carry all the league games. But yeah, highlight shows for all the top leagues would be a must wiht an anglo-american focus.

    I don't know that I'd call goltv mainstream. Quite the opposite.
     
  12. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2487 Revolt, Nov 4, 2013
    ESPN FC has been doing a consistently good job of covering USA and MLS soccer. I personally believe that the growth of interest in the MNT is going to start paying off with increased viewership MLS down the road. When the down the road actually occurs, who knows?
     
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  13. Papillon Soo Soo

    Papillon Soo Soo Member

    Jan 17, 2012
    #2488 Papillon Soo Soo, Nov 5, 2013
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  14. evilmonkeycmand

    evilmonkeycmand Member

    Jun 29, 2011
    North Carolina
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2489 evilmonkeycmand, Nov 5, 2013
  15. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    #2490 deejay, Nov 5, 2013
    Up 21% from last year. Sounds like something's up there.
     
  16. Stupid_American

    Stupid_American Member+

    Jan 8, 2003
    New York, NY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2491 Stupid_American, Nov 5, 2013
    According to the article, it's actually in comparison to the 2011 season, which is "the last time the league was featured on the Univision-owned network formerly known as Telefutura."
     
  17. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2492 MLSFan123, Nov 5, 2013
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2013
    Here is some historical data

    1) 2012 Spanish language was on Galavision and averaged ~57k
    2) 2011 games were split between Telefutura and Galavision with the following break down

    Galavision: 18 games: 72k
    Telefutura: 12 games 233K rating


    I have no idea where the 21% growth is coming from.
     
  18. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2493 MLSFan123, Nov 5, 2013
    Last edited: Nov 5, 2013
    Sadly, it changes nothing imo. The ratings are basically flat from the 2011 games on Telefutura according to our historical numbers.
     
  19. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2494 MLSFan123, Nov 5, 2013
    Adding in the Unimas yearly average.


    =========================

    MLS 2013 TV Ratings Summary

    Home teams listed first. All times are Eastern

    NBC Sports Network (all ratings for 2.5 hour window unless specified)
    Game 0: 95k (RSL vs SEA) Saturday 7:30pm 2/23/2013*
    Game 1: 107k (HOU vs DC). Saturday 8:00pm. 3/2/2013
    Game 2: 79k (CHI vs NE) Saturday 7:30pm 3/9/2013
    Game 3: 82k (KC vs CHI) Saturday 3:00pm 3/16/2013
    Game 4: 209k (SEA vs POR) Saturday 8:00pm 3/16/2013
    Game 5: 97k (DC vs COLU) Saturday 3:30pm 3/23/2013
    Game 6: 100k (NY vs PHI) Saturday 3:30pm 3/30/2013
    Game 7: 41k (COLO vs RSL) Saturday 7:30pm 4/6/2013
    Game 8: 86k (DAL vs LA) Saturday 3:30pm 4/13/2013
    Game 9: 108k (POR vs SJ) Sunday 10:30pm 4/14/2013
    Game 10: 58k (LA vs KC) Saturday 10:30pm 4/21/2013
    Game 11: 53k (MON vs CHI) Saturday 4:00pm 4/27/2013
    Game 12: 122k (COLU vs NY) Saturday 4:00pm 5/4/2013
    Game 13: 51k (CHI vs PHI) Saturday 1:30pm 5/11/2013
    Game 14: 80k (KC vs HOU) Sunday 3:30pm 5/26/2013
    Game 15: 96k (NE vs LA) Sunday 4:00pm 6/2/2013
    Game 16: 149k (SEA vs VAN) Saturday 10:30pm 6/8/2013
    Game 17: 133k (POR vs COLO) Sunday 7:00pm 6/23/2013
    Game 18: 123k (PHI vs DAL) Saturday 5:30pm 6/29/2013
    Game 19: 173k (VAN vs SEA) Saturday 11:00pm 7/6/2013
    Game 20: 126k (POR vs LA) Saturday 11:00pm 7/13/2013
    Game 21: 94k (HOU vs CHI) Saturday 8:00pm 7/27/2013
    Game 22: 83k (KC vs NY) Saturday 6:30pm 8/3/2013
    Game 23: 58k (PHI vs DC) Saturday 8:00pm 8/10/2013
    Game 24: 110k (NY vs PHI) Saturday 8:00pm 8/17/2013
    Game 25: 133k (CHI vs KC) Friday 8:30pm 8/23/2013
    Game 26: 171k (RSL vs POR) Friday 10:00pm 8/30/2013
    Game 27: 67k (NY vs DC) Saturday 8:00pm 8/31/2013
    Game 28: 102k (SEA vs CHI) Saturday 10:00pm 9/7/2013
    Game 29: 177k (SEA vs RSL) Friday 10:00pm 9/13/2013
    Game 30: 131k (POR vs COL) Friday 10:00pm 9/20/2013
    Game 31: 247k (LA vs SEA) Saturday 10:00pm 9/21/2013
    Game 32: 98k (KC vs PHI) Friday 8:00pm 9/27/2013
    Game 33: 89k (DC vs CHI) Friday 8:00pm 10/4/2013
    Game 34: 183k (COLO vs SEA) Saturday 10:00pm 10/5/2013
    Game 35: 83k(KC vs DC) Friday 8:00pm 10/18/2013
    Game 36: 189k (PHI vs KC) Saturday 3:00pm 10/26/2013
    Game 37: 68k (SJ vs DAL) Saturday 5:30pm 10/26/2013
    Average: 103k
    * This was the Preseason Diamond Cup final.


    ESPN2 (all ratings are for a 2.5 hour window unless specified)
    Game 1: 221k (POR vs NY) Sunday 7:30pm 3/3/2013
    Game 2: 179k (SJ vs NY) Sunday 10:00pm 3/10/2013
    Game 3: 108k (DAL vs HOU) Sunday 1:00pm 3/17/2013
    Game 4: 157k (CHI vs NY) Sunday 5:00pm 4/7/2013
    Game 5: 170k (DC vs PHI) Sunday 5:00pm 4/21/2013
    Game 6: 145k (LA vs HOU) Sunday 11:00pm 5/5/2013
    Game 7: 250k (LA vs NY) Sunday 1:00pm 5/19/2013*
    Game 8: 191k (LA vs SEA) Sunday 11:00pm 5/26/2013
    Game 9: 393k (NY vs HOU) Sunday 2:00pm 6/30/2013**
    Game 10: 138k (COLO vs LA) Saturday 7:00pm 7/27/2013***
    All-Star Game: 319k (MLS vs Roma) Wednesday 7:00pm 7/31/2013
    Game 11: 184k (DAL vs LA) Sunday 8:00pm 8/11/2013
    Game 12: 346k (SEA vs POR) Sunday 10:00pm 8/25/2013
    Game 13: 82k (SJ vs PHI) Sunday 11:00pm 9/8/2013*
    Average: 197k (does not include All Star Game)
    *Window was 128 minutes
    **Window was only 80 minutes due to Confed Cup game running long
    ***Window was 126 minutes

    ESPN(all ratings are for ~2 hour window).
    Game 1: 262k (POR vs DAL) Saturday 5:00pm 6/15/2013
    Game 2: 323k (PHI vs NY) Sunday 5:00pm 6/23/2013
    Game 3: 331k (CHI vs KC) Sunday 3:00pm 7/7/2013
    Game 4: 300k (SEA vs NY) Sunday 9:00pm 9/29/2013
    Game 5: 189k (POR vs SEA) Sunday 9:00pm 10/13/2013
    Game 6: 232k (LA vs SJ) Sunday 9:00pm 10/20/2013
    Game 7: 247k (SEA vs LA) Sunday 9:00pm 10/27/2013
    Average: 269K

    Unimas
    26 games: 229k average

    NBC
    Game 1: (NY vs DC) Saturday 12:30pm 3/16/2013
    Overnight: .7
    Final: .3, 461k

    Game 2: (POR vs LA) Sunday 3:30pm 9/29/2013
    Overnight: .3*

    Game 3: (DAL vs SEA) Saturday 2:30pm 10/19/2013
    Final: .3, 395k

    Game 4: (DC vs HOU) Sunday 1:30pm 10/27/2013
    Final: .2, 294k

    *Not sure if this is overnight or the fast national rating
     
  20. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    #2495 crookeddy, Nov 5, 2013
    Unimas ratings almost as high as ESPN? Could this explain the drop in ESPN ratings?
     
  21. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2496 MLSFan123, Nov 5, 2013
    What is the correlation? I don't think the ESPN and Unimas games overlap.

    And the Unimas numbers are not that much different from the Telefutura numbers of 2011.
     
  22. FootyMan1

    FootyMan1 Member

    Aug 9, 2013
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2497 FootyMan1, Nov 5, 2013
    I don't know but perhaps the person who wrote the article averaged the 12 telefutura games with the 18 Galavision games and this came out to be 21% lower than this years Unimas ratings. Idk, just trying to make some sense of it.
     
  23. FootyMan1

    FootyMan1 Member

    Aug 9, 2013
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2498 FootyMan1, Nov 5, 2013
    count that out, I just did the math. No idea where the 21% increase is coming from.
     
  24. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #2499 MLSFan123, Nov 5, 2013
    Something is amiss.

    I believe the 229k number, as that seems just about right, but I don't know how the 21% number was calculated.
     
  25. AZUL GALAXY

    AZUL GALAXY Member

    Aug 28, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    #2500 AZUL GALAXY, Nov 6, 2013
    Now we just need to know if the decline on ESPN is for
    The increase on ESPN deportes
     
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