Mizuno Thread [8] - Post all info, pics & questions here!

asianboy · Mar 13, 2014

BigBomba said: ↑

Hey guys!

Been following you and lurking for good tips and tricks to get a hold of MIJ Mizunos.

I have some questions though:

What is the best way to get a hold of Mizuno Morelia NEO MIJ. All black (12kp-30501), these to be more precise:
http://mizunofootball.com/footwear/moreliastation/images/12kp-30501_big.jpg

Any doable ideas?
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Well the easiest route is through rakuten with Tenso or White Rabbit Express but the exact colour you want isn't really in production anymore and so the closest thing are these. They are black but with some green highlights. http://search.rakuten.co.jp/search/mall?sitem=P1GA141037&g=0&myButton.x=0&myButton.y=0&myButton=検索&v=2&s=1&p=1&min=&max=&sf=0&st=A&nitem=

You could also check ebay or google, using the product code helps a lot in your search 12KP-30501

BigBomba · Mar 14, 2014

asianboy said: ↑

Well the easiest route is through rakuten with Tenso or White Rabbit Express but the exact colour you want isn't really in production anymore and so the closest thing are these. They are black but with some green highlights. http://search.rakuten.co.jp/search/mall?sitem=P1GA141037&g=0&myButton.x=0&myButton.y=0&myButton=検索&v=2&s=1&p=1&min=&max=&sf=0&st=A&nitem=

You could also check ebay or google, using the product code helps a lot in your search 12KP-30501
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Thank you for your reply asianboy! But I have already scoured the web for the product code hoping to find some store in Japan that sells them so I can order through Tenso. But I haven´t been lucky or I don´t know if the store is reliable.

Alex57910 · Mar 14, 2014

Can't vouch for the stores on ebay, but thought id chuck them up anyways;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MIZUNO-More..._s_Athletic_Footwear&var=&hash=item233314caba

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Football-mo...S_Men_s_Athletic_Footwear&hash=item20e1693528

second link is crazy expensive but

Smallrod · Mar 15, 2014

Can anyone comment on the size/fit of the KR2 compared to the Morelia II?

dawej · Mar 15, 2014

Former Ballon d'Or winner Rivaldo announced his retirement today.

Mizuno Wave Cup Rivaldo 2002, the most beautiful boot ever? Perhaps even the best...

serginhobertholi · Mar 15, 2014

dawej said: ↑

Former Ballon d'Or winner Rivaldo announced his retirement today.(...)
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Is just me asking, "again"?

Jorma · Mar 19, 2014

serginhobertholi said: ↑

As I promissed:
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Oh my god when are the white/blue/yellow morelias coming out? Made in japan?

serginhobertholi · Mar 20, 2014

Jorma said: ↑

Oh my god when are the white/blue/yellow morelias coming out? Made in japan?
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I think both are MIJ and must hit the market soon, my friend...

kiongsm · Mar 20, 2014

but pricing at 200GBP = insane!

AllanBhoy · Mar 21, 2014

The blue Morelia Neos don't look good IMO. They look kinda disgusting, reminds me of a similar blue/yellow Puma King Finale SL colorway

pancreas · Mar 22, 2014

Can someone give me an input on the TM stud configuration? Will they be good on all different types of turf?

serginhobertholi · Mar 22, 2014

jojo43 said: ↑

TM is ideal to play on artificial grass. However, someone said it is also suitable for neutral grass...better not to play on a very short turf.
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I use them in FG... no problems...

kiongsm · Mar 23, 2014

TM = equally good for art. turf n natural grass

AllanBhoy · Mar 24, 2014

Will any of the MiJ colorways on PDS ever be on Rakuten?

Loftshc · Mar 25, 2014

Would anyone be able to give me a review on the MIJ Morelia Neos? I've heard a lot of good things but the leather doesn't look particularly soft in pictures (although it is hard to judge, I know) and I'm concerned about the ultra thin insoles.

mretrum · Mar 25, 2014

The leather on the MIJ Neos is never going to 'look' soft, because of the Scotchguard coating. That being said, the leather is top notch and they are some of the nicest boots I've ever worn. I wouldn't be worried about the thin insoles as I play on some extremely hard pitches and experience no discomfort wearing these boots.

Dr. Boots · Mar 26, 2014

Loftshc said: ↑

Would anyone be able to give me a review on the MIJ Morelia Neos? I've heard a lot of good things but the leather doesn't look particularly soft in pictures (although it is hard to judge, I know) and I'm concerned about the ultra thin insoles.
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If your feet and legs are strong the thin insoles won't matter.

Loftshc · Mar 26, 2014

Dr. Boots said: ↑

If your feet and legs are strong the thin insoles won't matter.
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Sorry mate I don't know what you mean... would you be able to elaborate?

Dr. Boots · Mar 26, 2014

Loftshc said: ↑

Sorry mate I don't know what you mean... would you be able to elaborate?
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Overly padded or "supportive" insoles are actually counterproductive. They are essentially shutting your foot and body down and forcing it to do unnatural things. This resonates up your legs and into your back. Unflexible flat feet (as oppose to flexible flat feet which are not a problem), Plantar Fasciitis, heel striking, shin splints, and other issues are rooted in overly padded and supportive insoles and cushion systems placed on us from birth all the way to death.

The human body is incredibly strong and resilient and our feet are the base of our support. Unless we were born with club foot, there is very likely nothing wrong with our feet, despite the marketing of other bullshit from shoe makers, insole makers, and studies with correlation based evidence that are usually funded by an interested party...99.9% of us will never need an orthotic insole or even a very padded one, but lack of critical thinking, bowing to perceived ethos, and the ideal that we are each special and in need of something special for that specialness makes the orthotic market thrive.

We tried to fix what wasn't broken (the human body) and actually ended up breaking it.

Loftshc · Mar 27, 2014

Dr. Boots said: ↑

Overly padded or "supportive" insoles are actually counterproductive. They are essentially shutting your foot and body down and forcing it to do unnatural things. This resonates up your legs and into your back. Unflexible flat feet (as oppose to flexible flat feet which are not a problem), Plantar Fasciitis, heel striking, shin splints, and other issues are rooted in overly padded and supportive insoles and cushion systems placed on us from birth all the way to death.

The human body is incredibly strong and resilient and our feet are the base of our support. Unless we were born with club foot, there is very likely nothing wrong with our feet, despite the marketing of other bullshit from shoe makers, insole makers, and studies with correlation based evidence that are usually funded by an interested party...99.9% of us will never need an orthotic insole or even a very padded one, but lack of critical thinking, bowing to perceived ethos, and the ideal that we are each special and in need of something special for that specialness makes the orthotic market thrive.

We tried to fix what wasn't broken (the human body) and actually ended up breaking it.
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Wow... thanks, that was actually really interesting!

Alex57910 · Mar 27, 2014

Dr. Boots said: ↑

Overly padded or "supportive" insoles are actually counterproductive. They are essentially shutting your foot and body down and forcing it to do unnatural things. This resonates up your legs and into your back. Unflexible flat feet (as oppose to flexible flat feet which are not a problem), Plantar Fasciitis, heel striking, shin splints, and other issues are rooted in overly padded and supportive insoles and cushion systems placed on us from birth all the way to death.

The human body is incredibly strong and resilient and our feet are the base of our support. Unless we were born with club foot, there is very likely nothing wrong with our feet, despite the marketing of other bullshit from shoe makers, insole makers, and studies with correlation based evidence that are usually funded by an interested party...99.9% of us will never need an orthotic insole or even a very padded one, but lack of critical thinking, bowing to perceived ethos, and the ideal that we are each special and in need of something special for that specialness makes the orthotic market thrive.

We tried to fix what wasn't broken (the human body) and actually ended up breaking it.
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While i agree with some of what your saying Dr Boots, i dont believe that supportive insoles are counterproductive. People with flat feet or that over pronate and those with feet that supinate (overly high arches) lose that lack of support and cushioning that the foot needs. The orthotics or insoles can work to combat that and provide those who need it with that much needed support. I'm not saying that people need to wear them, and even those with pancake feet etc don't NEED to wear them, but for those who do have problems and who do wear them im sure they can vouch for their effectiveness.

Dr. Boots · Mar 27, 2014

Alex57910 said: ↑

While i agree with some of what your saying Dr Boots, i dont believe that supportive insoles are counterproductive. People with flat feet or that over pronate and those with feet that supinate (overly high arches) lose that lack of support and cushioning that the foot needs. The orthotics or insoles can work to combat that and provide those who need it with that much needed support. I'm not saying that people need to wear them, and even those with pancake feet etc don't NEED to wear them, but for those who do have problems and who do wear them im sure they can vouch for their effectiveness.
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If you trained barefoot your flat feet would correct, or at least become flexible. A high arch also isn't the detriment that it is made out to be. If flat and high arches were that big of a deal in hindrance of physical development, evolution would have killed that trait off by now.

Learning to correctly strike your foot when walking or running will not be helped by insoles, only bare foot training. Read "Born to Run" and an article about barefoot tribes published in the early 1900's.

Alex57910 · Mar 27, 2014

Dr. Boots said: ↑

If you trained barefoot your flat feet would correct, or at least become flexible. A high arch also isn't the detriment that it is made out to be. If flat and high arches were that big of a deal in hindrance of physical development, evolution would have killed that trait off by now.

Learning to correctly strike your foot when walking or running will not be helped by insoles, only bare foot training. Read "Born to Run" and an article about barefoot tribes published in the early 1900's.
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The posture of your foot is determined by ligaments, namely the spring ligament which you cannot strengthen. Once they lose there tension, that's it. You can strengthen the foot muscles and lower limb muscles which work to a degree (which is where the barefoot running concept is based around) but at the end of the day the ligaments play a huge role in that stability too. Evolution hasn't killed off lots of traits that you might think, the shoulder is poorly designed, there is a muscle in your wrist which is not useful at all but is still present in like 80% of the population. The orthotics won't permanently fix the feet problem but they may temporarily correct the foot strike and relieve symptoms

holden · Mar 27, 2014

Dr. Boots said: ↑

evolution would have killed that trait off by now.
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That's not exactly how evolution works... nobody is going to say, "Oh, I'm not going to reproduce with that person because they have high/low arches." So as a result, that trait lives on. There are many undesirable traits that continue because they do not prevent an individual from reproducing.

noob-bob · Mar 27, 2014

If you couldn't walk back in the days you most likely would have died. Natural selection.