Milosevic Found Dead in his Cell (R)

There was an interview with a former Canadian diplomat who basically summed up Slobo like this:

Yugoslavia before Slobo: Financial stabiliy, progressive, and it's people were free to travel the world.

With Slobo in power: $^&^@*&($**()$*()$

 

Again, I don't get what your point is. Are you implying that the war tribunal was put in place to provide employment in the Netherlands? The UN decided to establish the war tribunal, it was approved by the majority of its member states. The Netherlands (unlike some other countries we won't mention) dutifully pays its UN contribution every year in full. In short, we pay for what the tribunal spends ourselves.

The court case was a hugely complex issue. Proving Milosevic's responsibility in the slaughter at Srebrenica, for example, is highly complicated as you have to prove that all lines of communication and power can be traced back to him. It is a responsible thing to do take time to get to the bottom of this. You also seem to ignore other complicating factors, such as the fact that the process was delayed on several occassions because of Milosevic's illness.

You oversimplify things. Is it easy living in a world that that's black and white?

 

What is your annual contribution? Is it earmarked for the tribunal? OTOH, if the tribunal costs more than your contribution, then you're not really contributing anything, just recirculating money within your own country.
Complexity & simplicity are matters of analysis & preparation. No one seems in any hurry to collect & analyze evidence, then present it in a direct & cogent manner. Let Slobo watch the proceedings on television from his cell or hospital bed - appoint an advocate & don't allow him to represent himself, which created farcial scenes over the last several years.
The Dutch were once known for practical analysis & solution. A nation that could push back the North Sea can streamline a war crimes trial.

 

If it were that easy. Unfortunately everything can't be a tidy little sound bite like that. Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia, Macedonia and Kosovo wanting to sucede created just as many problems as Milosevic's "Greater Serbia" conquest.

 

http://www.optonline.net/News/Article/Feeds?CID=type=xml&channel=32&article=17669964
opposing viewpoints:
Ramsey Clark, a former U.S. attorney general and longtime Milosevic supporter who is now on Saddam Hussein's defense team, drew cheers by telling the crowd: "History will prove that Slobodan Milosevic was right."
But some drivers passing by the square honked car horns and made obscene gestures at the Milosevic supporters, underscoring the disgust many Serbs feel toward the late autocratic leader.

 

Seems Clark has a thing for Genocidal Killers.

 

I don't doubt your expertise on the subject but I would like to read an article or something about Croatia and Bosnia willing to stay together with Serbia as a real Yugoslavia.

 

You would have a point if the Tribunal was actually led by the Dutch. Which it isn't. We're hosts to the tribunal and supply support staff like police, security, and medical facilities. We have no say in proceedings otherwise, not more than any other UN member that doesn't have a veto in the council anyway.

Overall I find it hilarious that you think a country with the mickey mouse-like political stature of the Netherlands has that much influence over the UN. Your 'just recirculating money' comment also is pretty funny. How do you feel about the UN's operations in New York? Would you like me to compare how much employment they provide over there to that at the Hague?

 

I was between puking and laughing out loud when that guy was giving the speech.

“Slobadan Milosevic is a man for all ages and for all of humanity. He spent his final years heroically fighting for justice from a nazi prison.”

That’s what I heard from him . I thought that those pro-milosević people in the west were only making gestures with different reasoning behind it, but it seems this guy really managed to delude himself that he was defending a noble person.


I know nothing about his career in America, what’s this guy about? Or was it all just a case of too much slivovitz?

 

Feel free!

 

A simple google search would have told you that they employ 6,100 people in New York. Meanwhile a total of three UN organisations: the international court of justice (ICJ), the International Criminal Court, and the War Tribunal together employ 1,200 people at the Hague itself.

Glad to have been of help.

 

Somehow, I knew you would be!

 

He's writing a book on the trial, thinks it may have been worthwhile: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion...0,1835323.story?coll=la-news-comment-opinions

 

Life's tough for accused war criminals:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11974958/
"A tryst in the Hague tribunal’s “love room” for conjugal visits produced a daughter this week for former Yugoslav Army Chief of Staff Nebojsa Pavkovic and partner Maja ... Pavkovic is on temporary release from the U.N. tribunal pending his trial for war crimes"