A while back there was a study that showed the relevance of population and GDP to medal count and it was very interesting, it showed that in a decade or two China would take out the US convincingly... the trend is def there.
This is all very ironic for you, isn't? You were the one who claimed one American athlete would do better than all the Iranian athletes. Well it turns out, the Iranian athletes did better on average, and had a better success ratio, than all the American athletes. So much for your predictions.
China has made impressive gains and I have no doubt that they will pass the US most likely by the next games
Now that I'm on Mani's ignore list (hopefully that is true) and I can post without being constantly reminded about Israel's medal count and Iran's greatness....i totally forgot to mention today's result in possibly the toughest event out there, whose athletes are considered by many to be the greatest overall athletes on the planet. That's right....decathlon. Well, Americans won the gold and silver. Not too shabby.
Olympic Ranking of the Middle East countries so far: Iran: 4 4 1 9 Turkey: 1 0 1 2 Algeria: 1 0 0 1 Egypt: 0 2 0 2 Tunisia: 0 1 1 2 Qatar: 0 0 2 2 Saudi Arabia: 0 0 1 1 Morocco: 0 0 1 1 Kuwait: 0 0 1 1 Israel: 0 0 0 0
Olympic medals for countries bordering the Caspian Sea: Russia 12-21-23 Kazakhstan 6-0-2 Iran 4-4-1 Azerbaijan 0-2-3 Turkmenistan 0-0-0 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_at_the_2012_Summer_Olympics#Medalists http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakhstan_at_the_2012_Summer_Olympics#Medalists http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_at_the_2012_Summer_Olympics#Medalists http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azerbaijan_at_the_2012_Summer_Olympics#Medalists
Just shows that Iran left the bulk of its underperforming men, and most of its women, at home. "Official rankings" place Iran 14th: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/dat...mpics-2012-alternative-medal-table-visualised By population, Iran 53rd.
I think you are confusing Yasik with Odessit. Yasik is not a Lukidnic. Odessit is the "Lukidnic"... in any event, Israelis/Jews aren't a sporting nation man. IThe only sport they are pretty good in is basketball. And they could probably qualify for footballs WC every now and then if they were in Asia. In any event, the Lukid party advances Iran's interests. (in a weird way)
In other words, so far Iran has 4 Gold, 4 Silver, and 1 Bronze, whereas all the other countries in the Middle East (Southwest Asia and North Africa) combined have: 2 Gold, 3 Silver, and 7 bronze! If all of them were one country, they would still rate below Iran, with fewer Gold and fewer Silver, albeit with slightly more total medals. If things go as expected by wrestling experts, Iran should earn up 5 medals from freestyle wrestling (3 Gold, 1 Silver, 1 Bronze). That would put Iran's final medals tally at: 7 Gold, 5 Silver, 2 Bronze, for a total of 14 medals, which is just one shy of the Wall Street Journal projections you had posted. My own projections have been slightly more cautious and conservative, but regardless I am looking forward to Iran getting at least 3 medals from free style wrestling. Hopefully all will be GOLD but I will take 2 GOLD and 1 Silver.
To my doosts on here, We could have had more success in this Olypmic, despite having a record year. The entire referring team has been suspended for the 66 Kg bout between Abdolvai and the French guy. We could have had another gold there. And I searched the boxing matches, and found out that Mazaheri was the only boxer disqualified in this Olypmics. He was clearly singled out by the ref in that match. Although the ref was suspended, but there has to be an investigation on this matter. This could not have been a simple error. The U.S for the firs time ever will not win a medal in boxing this Olympic. You have virtually every country competing for a medal in boxing except for some big countries; U.S, Germany, France.
Our hope for gold in free style wretling are Taghavi in 66 Kg, and Yazdani in 96 Kg. Rahimi in 55 and Godarzi in 74 are also considered medal contenders. And both have good draws. The other 3 wrestlers are not considered medal contenders, but anything can happen. A good draw with a bit of luk can take them to medals.
While the points take from Abdolvali by the referees appear to have been unjustified, and even though most Iranians who saw the bout clearly felt Iran had been cheated, I need to correct an earlier post of mine which linked a Farsi report stating the referees from that match had been suspended. Although this report was even carried by some television news outlets, the report has been retracted and was in error. Instead, there appears to have been a strenuous campaign to have the referees suspended and some early indications that would be done (causing this early reports which proved misplaced), but at the end, a decision was made by FILA not to do so. Also, I read that there has been a flood of angry emails by Iranian fans to FILA due to the Adbovali bout, and some concerns have been expressed by our free style wrestling team that the whole atmosphere among the FILA gang is poisoned against them and Iranian athletes right now. But your point is otherwise well taken: Iran could have earned even more medals but for some decisions by the referees that went against us.
I am no real expert, but I had come across these projections which are similar to yours but give Iran 3 GOLD from free style wrestling and a total of 5 medals from it: http://summergames.ap.org/kfvs12/article/russians-remain-wrestling-favorites-london-1
I used your link when I thought that the refs had been suspended. Regardless of the atmosphere, our athletes have done a remarkable job. I will be satisfied with Wall Street Journal's 15 medal prediction. Thanks for the correction.
No, it shows the biased IOC allocation system that allows US and the likes to field hundreds of athletes, and have multiple events designed for each one of them, while Iran had to leave a dozen World Champions in TKD and Wrestling at home, who would otherwise win more medals for Iran, if the system wasn't designed to favor the US Olympic Team and their corporate sponsors.
I am still bewildered why Iran, which won (the men's) 2011 Taekwando world championship, with 3 GOLD, 1 Silver and 1 bronze, ends up without any representatives in most of the weight classes in Taekwando! That makes no sense.
These projections don't seem right to me. Goudarzi is a Gold medal favorite, while Rahimi is not a strong favorite in his weight class. They're right about Taghavi though. I'd not call Yazdani a heavy favorite either, as the Russian wrestler in his weight class is a beast, and he has beaten Yazdani a couple of times in Iran, during the national league bouts. It's hard to predict, but I'd say we could win 1 to 4 Gold medals for Iran, depending on many factors, specially the officiating. The fact that millions of Iranians have been sending hate mails to FILA boss Martinetti for the last few days, so much so that he had to make a forced apology to calm things down, and later shut down his e-mail address altogether, may work against us, as Martinetti is an asshole who holds personal grudges.
Because Olympics is the biggest news in the Middle East ( and the World) right now, besides Syria which has its own thread. If you go to Middle East section of the various news agencies, many of the headlines are about the Olympics too. If Israel or another Mid East country was doing well at the Olympics, we would be talking about them instead of Iran, just as we talked about the female Saudi Olympian or the Afghan Bronze medalist. In any case, nobody has sopped you from posting other news or discussing other events if you wish to do so. There is not much else going on though. We did, however, talk about the Iran-US relations and possibilities of a conflict for a couple of pages too.
Interesting that you didn't seem to have any concerns when this thread was about medals being won by Michael Phelps, an American swimmer and before Iran started to win its medals. In any case, I will quote what I had written in another post and perhaps you can read between the lines and see how Iran's achievements in the Olympics are indeed relevant!! In fact, very relevant.
Because that wasn't about Phelps' medals per se, it was about more about the bet between Conspiracy and Mani. Not that bet is concluded and still this is going on page after page. This isn't the Olympics thread, in case you haven't noticed. No, but there is something called thread-jacking, in case you've heard of it.
If you want to talk about something else, go ahead, if you don't like our posts, don't read them. Olympics are the biggest event in the world, and headline news in Mid East right now, and this is the Mid East News thread. Olympics will be over soon anyways. You're obviously bothered by the fact that Iran is doing well at the Olympics, and as IM pointed out, now that the tide had turned in Iran's favor, you're all of sudden concerned about the Olympic talk. Typical hypocrisy at its best.
