Mexico VS USA August 10th - Philadelphia: Analysis Thread.

He single handedly won us 3 eliminatoria points and saved us from taking a L in the Azteca our debut game.

Now analyze how we were sweating come the closing end of the elimination....those points were golden lol

 

But you understand that not everyone here thinks like you do right?
Most people here are Chivas fans and they want all if not most of their players in the team, they want Pato Araujo and Baez holding the middle, they want Michel in goal, they want Reynoso, Magallon and Ponce in the team, they want Arellano, Fabian and Cubo too, when in reality the only one who is at NT level is Fabian.

And of course in reality they will always over criticize america players, every goal that Ochoa "lets in" is his fault, this goal the US scored was his fault because he is not able to bend space and time, and yet no one ever said anything about Talavera in the Gold Cup final and how he was shitting him self out there and if he was Ochoa would've been blamed for the first goal, but thankfully he was saved by our four guys up front.
Now they hatting on Aguilar a player most of them liked almost loved when he was at Pachuca, IMO he was shit when he was at Pachuca and he still is. He is nothing but Oscar Rojas 2.0 and I don't want him near the NT and I rather America never got him but thats just me.

 

Aguilar is fukin basura.....the sad reality is that he leaves the NT and i still have to watch him every weekend.

 

Lol, "But the People loves him"

This is like arguing that the 900 pound 14 year old is not obese but just "glowing" with all his momma's love

No one is demanding that Zinha be included in the squad, this is strictly Chepo's failure to control his nepotism.

 

Vuoso saved our ass against Canada he still shouldn't have been on the team

Same goes for Pavel, the guy was never criticized and Aguirre was right in dropping him.

 

This game was only a friendly and should not be taken seriously. The fact that estaunidenses are celebrating a tie is a sign of inferiority complex. Mexico beat them when it mattered the most and gets to go to the confederation cup as a just reward. On top of that I saw nothing different from this game except that the US attacked after we cut back in attack, most probably because chepo was worried about a deadly counter strike. We dominated majority of the game and were missing key players. 5 years ago we would have been celebrating a friendly tie just like them, the fact that everyone is disappointed by one shows how much stronger this team is.

 

That's pretty much my view of it. Friendlies don't mean anything but for the better part of a decade we lost every friendly we played against them. That's how Hugo Sanchez started off if I remember correctly, a 2-0 loss against the U.S in Arizona.

And now the tables are turned. Babies born the last time the U.S beat Mexico will be learning how to add and subtract soon.

 

You seriously think the press backlash against Zinha's call-up would make chepo stop calling him? I doubt it, coaches are stubborn by nature.

Remember bofo last year? or chiquis Garcia in '06? Neither the press nor the general public wanted either of those two in a WC, bofo was booed at Azteca every time he touched ball for ********s sake lol, and Aguirre couldn't care less what people thought.

Regarding his call-ups in the future, the guy's obviously playing his last couple years as a professional so he won't make the WC, but maybe the young guys can learn a thing or two from him and benefit from his presence in the NT. You can't tell me he had a bad game on wednesday or that Giovanni played better than him, can you?

 

Or maybe they can learn that taking on two or three opponents on your own is not always the right thing to do (like Giovanni did at least twice on wednesday, only to end up losing the ball) and that maybe a nice well-thought through ball to a teammate is a better choice (like the one Zinha serviced to Barrera that was just barely cleared by the defender in the first half).

Slowing down the game is not always a bad thing. Don't get me wrong I think Giovanni should always start ahead of him if both are available, but I think there's stuff he could definitely learn from Zinha.

 

total shit? Thats a little too extreme.....he was simply slow because his age/injuries were catching up to him, word to Rafa.

The total shit is more up torrado's alley....he cant even pass, which wasn't Pardo's case.

And as for not being criticized, its a little hard to notice a decent player thats phasing out when just about everyone around him extremely sucks donkey balls,we had forwards that were scoring every 600 minutes, players staring....that didnt play, and finally our game changing sub options: Old cuauh and vuoso-_-.

now that i think about it Eriksons team was SUPER rough....

 

uuuuuf. En Casa? EEUU no tiene casa, no sean mameis. Fue el primer juego de Klinnsman, nos puso un empate donde lo único que faltó fue la delantera, y tomo ventaja de que Chepo la cago. Creo que entre si demuestra que por lo menos tiene estrategia.

Fe de erratas: no nos dominaron todo el partido. Pero la definición TACTICA de klinsmann si estuvo. Se nota que no aprendió a dirigir en FIFA '11.

 

Martin del Palacio has a great stat analysis of the Mexico-U.S Gold Cup final on his website. Torrado's pass completion was 78%. Pretty solid. His pass for Giovani's goal was definitely clever.