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Discussion in 'Mexico NSR' started by sidspaceman, Sep 5, 2012.
The trade was blocked because owners like Mark Cuban were complaining about the trade benefitting the Lakers. although again, the offer was the best one for New Orleans based on the opinion of third parties.
I can understand why Cuban would be pissed about one of their conference rivals getting stronger, since they never been able to beat the Lakers before.
Lets talk about rigged.
Michael Jordan pump fake, dude gets airborne and Jordan jumps into him. Foul, continuation, and one. Every time.
How is that not charging?
Those were the rules but I always thought that was a stupid rule to have. Altho, credit to Jordan for feinting the shit out of them. Sure made the league seem rigged.
Yeah there was.nothing lopsided about that trade which is why it was weird they.blocked it.
Cuban was a role player in the fiasco but would be irrelevant if your team wasn't famous for lopsided trades that make no sense for the trading partner.
Star treatment from refs.
Another reason many discount the NBA.
I'm not gonna argue against this.
come on dude, what lopsided trades? Kobe for Divac? Kobe was picked 12th. You telling me 12 teams passed on him was fixed? Or you talking about Wilt going from the Warriors to the 76ers to the Lakers than going semi-pro was all an elaborate plan? Or you talking about Kareem from the Bucks to the Lakers?
Read this piece of history.
If you have concrete or even circumstancial evidence brother I'm all ears.
Subs to inevitable Laker 3peat
MJ a jerk? Why drag Michael Jackson into a basketball thread?
and yes Zeke was a champ but was he an olympic gold medalist?
The Gasol and Dwight deals make no sense for Memphis or Orlando.
Were not gonna convince each other of shit.
Large numbers of fans believe LA gets gifted players.
LA fans are just gonna have to deal with it.
subs to all the butthurt when LeBron again wins season and Finals MVP
Even I agree with this and I'm a Laker fan (sort of) Basketball is corrupt,I can't stand star treatment especially for Lebron so I just don't watch the shit anymore.
As I said before, the problem with the rest of the teams is that they're not owned by the Buss Family.
In for the Lin dynasty in Houston
That they don't make sense doesn't mean they are malicious. No smoking gun there... By the way, was a 4 team trade and 76ers were ones who were after Howard originally.
From the horses mouth on Gasol.
The fact that adding Pau made the Lakers a lot better isn't an argument that the trade was fixed.
Plus, Marc Gasol turned out to be a damn good player, IMO.
However, I have no problem with the criticisms of the Stern led NBA. Dude is a shadyass megalomaniac.
As much I dislike the Lakers, they're going to have a great team this season. A Nash-Kobe-Gasol-Dwight team can go far into the playoffs.
But I still have OKC winning the west.
the main reason i would give okc a chance is because of mike brown and how he crumbles in the playoffs.
if it were phil.... lakers in a heartbeat.
Aren't the Lakers implementing the Princeton offense?
It's going to be interesting to say the least.
as much I love what the Lakers are doing........I still don't see a player on that team that is going to stop or at least slow down westbrook.....anyway.
too bad mike brown is a terrible on the offensive side of the ball .
also, i don't know if princeton works too well with dwight, and even less if not everyone buys into it, because then you get pass-to-kobe-and-pray, and it could turn into pass-to-dwight-and-pray, followed by omg-pau's-feelings-are-hurt-and-he's-sulking-and-getting-beasted-in-the-post.
brown has a better shot there. or you can hope that westbrook chucks the thunder into oblivion.
Should have pursued harder for Adelman then.
But even then, I don't think the Lakers can run a complete-version of the Princeton offense given the roster make up. When you look back at those early-00s Sacramento Kings, they ran it to perfection. They probably have the best passing big duos in the history of the NBA in Webber/Divac (plus Brad Miller in 2004 & beyond). Those guys can shoot too. I could see Gasol sharing a lot of qualities of the Kings' frontcourt. But on the other hand, Dwight needs time to adjust. In Orlando, his offensive role was essentially the center piece of their system (i.e. have the court spread out with 3PT shooters and dare opponents to double/help on Dwight, if they bite, then Dwight kicks it out to the open guy. If not, Dwight more often than not, will score on his man one on one. Rinse and repeat).
In the Lakers system, Dwight will be more of a secondary option on offense. He has to diversify his game a bit more to mesh i.e. play more pick n' roll, pass the ball coherently etc. I mean, sure, Dwight will get his touches (ISOs) and will score effectively nonetheless but I don't think he will have as much freedom like with Orlando.
I could see the same thing with Nash to some extent. PG play isn't valued as much in comparison with other offensive systems. PGs in the Princeton offense, typically plays off with the other ball handlers on the floor (mostly with the other guard i.e. Kobe or with the PF i.e. Gasol) and somewhat acts like a "safety-valve" when the ball isn't moving around.
The ball handling duties are really shared by everyone (emphasis for the bigs). Every body should be touching the ball at least once per possession.
No one is really a PG in the Princeton offense.
In Nash's case, to me, his PG play will not be maximized in this type of offensive system. That said, ultimately, given Nash's BBIQ, he SHOULD be able to fit in such offense.
Kobe has a high BBIQ as well, so I can see him fitting in too.
Like I said, I don't expect the Lakers running the Princeton offense just like the Kings in the early 00s, that would be highly unlikely but given the general BBIQs of the Lakers roster, they should able to run it with some degree of success imo.
i don't think they'll run a complete princeton, but at least draw some inspiration from it. i wouldn't worry about nash not being the clear distributor/creator, he's still smart enough to run with the offense without handling the ball the entire time. kobe has the basketball iq, but kobe gonna kobe. if he buys into the system they're selling, where he'll get loss shots , but better looks, it'll work. it he pulls a kobe and decides to iso because they're down/no one else is making shots/ it's late in the game/because he feels like it, it could implode.
same thing with howard or gasol, regarding what i mentioned earlier.
Heard a rumor that a team in Mexico was trying to sign Shaq.
Here it is: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8344498/shaquille-oneal-play-mexico