PBP: Match Day thread: Jamaica: Get Up, Stand UP, Redemption

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by deuteronomy, Sep 11, 2012.

  1. Balls of Fire

    Balls of Fire Member

    Oct 16, 2007
    We're in trouble if our idea of "mixing it up a bit" is rotating in Spector, Torres, and Shea.
     
  2. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    -S--A--D-
    -JFT--Z-
    ----JJ---
    J-B-C-S
    ----H----

    Typing this on my iPhone, sorry about that.
     
  3. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    This is what I think we'll see:

    ------------------------------------------Howard--------------------------------------
    --------------------------------Cameron--------Boca---------------------------------
    Cherundolo--------------------------------------------------------------F. Johnson
    ------------------------------------Beckerman------------------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------------Torres---------------------------------
    ---------------Jones---------------------------------------------------------------------
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------Shea-------------
    -----------------------------------------Dempsey----------------------------------------
    -----------------------------------------------------------Herc-------------------------
     
  4. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Okay, I'm at home, but mark my words this will likely be the lineup.

    ----Dempsey-----------------------------------Altidore------------------------------------Gomez----
    -------------------------------------Torres-----------------------Zusi-----------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------Jones--------------------------------------------------
    --Johnson------------------Bocanegra-------------------------Cameron--------------------Spector--
    -------------------------------------------------Howard-------------------------------------------------
     
  5. Mr Martin

    Mr Martin Member+

    Jun 12, 2002
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Relatively slow Beckerman and Torres as the spine protecting the backs and Jones misused on the right flank. Please no. Please.

    I see no need for Beckerman this match. Jones, Edu, or Williams to handle the #6 role. Torres has a 50-50 shot at starting, not because he's great but because of the dirth of options for midfielders with adequate ball control and passing skills.
     
  6. Mr Martin

    Mr Martin Member+

    Jun 12, 2002
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd be surprised if Spector starts over Cherundolo. And as a pure defender on the right I'd maybe prefer Williams if Cherundolo were not able to play.

    But otherwise this is a coherent lineup with most players in logical roles. The key will be if Jones stays focussed and disciplined enough to actually play the #6 role, freeing Torres and Zusi to link with the forwards and keep the ball moving.
     
  7. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I agree with you on the speed issue.... but I have a feeling Beckerman will still most likely start.

    With that said, will Jamaica come out and try to 'slovenia' us (WC 2010) at home? Or will they play conservative, all guys behnid the ball, as we try to tear them to shreds?
     
  8. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Innnnnteresting, and a move that I hadn't thought of, actually. Secondly, if there's a game for Torres, I suspect that this one might be it. I think the Jamaicans are going to look to pack it in and counter quick, and Torres is one of those guys you want on the field if the Reggae Boyz are packing it in.

    Finally, I do definitely hope that points 6 and 7 are points that JK took home from our failure on Friday, and plans to actually address with appropriate changes. (As opposed to telling them to work on their fitness and mental attitude and trotting out the same damn 4DM lineup.) Personally, I'd prefer one more attacker in the lineup, but what you propose is an interesting such change.
     
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  9. jahman

    jahman Member

    Aug 18, 2000
    Outside Reggae Land
    :D
     
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  10. az2004

    az2004 Member

    Jun 5, 2012
    jamaica only awy performance this round was 0-0 in antigua

    one the road here and in guat could see them in 3rd palce although the best antigua and lookfor felp
     
  11. georg

    georg Member+

    May 25, 2009
    Parowan, Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did the U.S. look any better last match after Beckerman sat down and Williams came in?
     
  12. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. soccerusa517

    soccerusa517 Member+

    Jun 23, 2009
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Going to the game tonight. Which means they better win.:devilish:
     
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  14. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Enjoy! Gotta keep the Columbus streak alive.

    (And for goodness's sake, Columbus fans, please wear no yellow or black tonight!)
     
  15. az2004

    az2004 Member

    Jun 5, 2012
    but bring plmty gamga for the boyz to feel at home
     
  16. MI-Soccerfan

    MI-Soccerfan Member+

    Jan 19, 2012
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here is what I would do but its not going to happen

    ---------------------Jozy-------------------------
    Shea---------Zusi----------Torres-------Demps
    ---------------------Jones-------------------------
    FJ---------Came-------------Edu----------Dolo

    The thoughts behind it:

    1. It gives us the width that is desperately needed
    2. It gives us a creative attacking player centrally in Zusi
    3. Torres is the link to hold up the ball and spread it around


    I put Dempsey out wide because I want to see what Zusi can do in a central attacking role, He normally would not be the first choice in that role but witht he roster the way it is I think he is the best option to create in the middle of the field

    Zusi and Dempsey could easily be flipped or move Dempsey to Zusi's spot and bring on Gomez

    Or it could look this

    Shea-----Demps-Zusi--------Gomez

    and let Zusi link play and Demps be the creative attacker

    Point being I would come out and try to take the game right at Jamaica
     
  17. FloridaFC2MLS

    FloridaFC2MLS Member

    Oct 17, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No way Spector randomly starts in the midfield. Hasnt played there consistantly since he was at West Ham. Just sayin.. Idk if I would even want to see it. He just hasnt played it enough lately.
     
  18. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At Kingston we used a 4-3-2-1/4-3-1-2 flex

    ----------------------Howard-----------------------------
    Parkhurst----Cameron---Goodson-----Johnson--
    ---------------------Beckerman--------------------------
    --------------Jones------------Edu-----------------------
    -------------Gomez------------Dempsey-----------------
    -----------------------Altidore----------------------------
    At Columbus we go to the Dempsey formation, 4-2-3-1

    ----------------------Howard-----------------------
    Dolo-----------Cameron---Boca---------Johnson
    --------------Jones (8)----------Edu(6)------------
    --Gomez-----------Dempsey---------------Shea---
    -----------------------Altidore------------------------

    Edu gets the nod at the #6. He won 5 tackles and lost only 1 in Kingston
     
  19. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have $450 Jamaican dollars that I'm going to use as confetti if we score.
     
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  20. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    my line-up:
    ------------------Altidore--------------------
    --------Dempsey--------Gomez-------------
    -------------------Zusi------------------------
    ----------Jones-----------Williams-----------
    Johnson-----------------------------Cherundolo
    ----------Bocanegra---Cameron-------------
    -------------------Howard---------------------

    Bench: Guzan, Edu, Parkhurst, Spector, Torres, Shea, Boyd
     
  21. Cool Hand Luke

    Cool Hand Luke Member+

    Aug 13, 2008
    Austin Texas
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are you sure? That cash could go a long way towards a loaf of bread.
     
  22. PANDEMONEUM

    PANDEMONEUM Member

    Aug 30, 2011
    Club:
    Asteras Tripolis
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    what id like (crazy, i know)
    gomez - dempsey- boyd
    shea -----jones---- zusi
    fab --- cam - edu --- dolo

    but for real
    ------gomez
    shea -zusi- dempsey
    --torres - jones
    fab-cam-edu-dolo

    -need to control the game and posses
    -need to score early
    -if need a goal, Torres or Zusi out, Altidore or Boyd in (2 Forwards)
    -gomez - altidore
    shea -zusi- dempsey
    ------ jones
    fab-cam-edu-dolo

    -if need D, have Williams and Beckerman, for Torres or Zusi or Shea, even Bocanegra
    ------gomez
    shea -jones- dempsey
    --becker- williams
    fab-cam-edu-dolo
     
  23. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Throwing a loaf of bread seems less symbolic
     
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  24. Big Chil in Denver

    Sep 10, 2009
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I also see this as the most likely formation. I can't see Klinsmann starting Zusi & Torres after neither of them played last Friday. This is pretty much the most experienced lineup in a formation that should work for us. Shea will be on to provide width & upgrade the attack, Beckerman will sit due to 1. his foul set up the first free kick goal, and 2. he deflected that same kick past TH by carelessly spreading his legs on the kick.
     
  25. SourCream&OnionUtd

    Nov 19, 1998
    Me too
     

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