March 5th 2014 next friendly

Discussion in 'Colombian National Team' started by crzdcolombian, Oct 27, 2013.

  1. pipevasquez

    pipevasquez Member+

    Sep 8, 2007
    Bogotá City
    Sorry. Estoy desde el celular y cogió su mensaje no se porqué. Ahora lo corrijo
     
  2. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    @pibe10 y @ryu79 ahi esta....ningun comentario mio hacia crzd ni sobre yepes....y el tipo llega a provocarme y despues diciendo que es una victima cuando nisiquiera me refiero de el

    pero como es el loco del foro tiene derecho al maltrato y a dañar el ambiente
     
  3. viscajunior

    viscajunior Member+

    Aug 3, 2008
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    jajajaajajajaajajajajaajajajajajajajajaa el loco del foro
     
  4. krass

    krass Member+

    Aug 18, 2008
    tu sieres colerico... y te gusta tergiversar la realidad o pa decirtelo en costenol... te gusta hablar cotopla...
    si desprestigie tu opinion, entonces el ofendido eres tu y no yo.... argumenta mejor

    ps: boleta es con b de burro.... pipe-tardo :whistling:
     
  5. pipevasquez

    pipevasquez Member+

    Sep 8, 2007
    Bogotá City
    Gracias por la corrección. Si eres va separado...opinión va con tilde. Pero gracias.

    Tergiversar? Jajaj por qué no se devuelve a los anteriores mensajes. Jajajajajaja típico.

    Pobre víctima. Sitico

    Ya te quedo claro lo de los jugadores casados con Pekerman o aún no?
     
  6. krass

    krass Member+

    Aug 18, 2008
    p-i-p-e-t-a-r-d-o

    deletreate esa
     
  7. pipevasquez

    pipevasquez Member+

    Sep 8, 2007
    Bogotá City
    Aquí te lo pongo para que sigas haciendo el que no entiende.

    El sufrido. Jajaj
     
  8. krass

    krass Member+

    Aug 18, 2008
    noo me mataste con esa.... yo voy a dormir... asi que otro dia seguimos con la charla amena
     
  9. pipevasquez

    pipevasquez Member+

    Sep 8, 2007
    Bogotá City
    #884 pipevasquez, Mar 7, 2014
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2014
    Ud creen que lo de Mondragon fue una especie de tributo o un regaño a Ospina
     
  10. D.I.M

    D.I.M Member

    May 17, 2004
    Woodridge, NJ
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    No he tenido tiempo de leer todos los posts.. pero aqui jodimos un rato con los minutos que cada uno ha jugade etc...

    Mi opinion es que no hay suficientes marcadores de punta que hagan bien el trabajo.. y los que hay solo uno ha jugado suficientes partidos para aguantar un mundial.. de resto pare de contar..
    Los centrales estan lentos y a destiempos. la vejez no viene sola...
    Acuerdense que hay que ir contra la elite.. asi sea la elita de Grecia pero es la elite de ellos..
    Es importante que nuestros jugadores sigan teniendo minutos en sus clubes para poder llegar a un nivel optimo al mundial...

    En realidad Pekerman no se puede poner a inventar muchisimo ahora.... digo pues en el mundial va a tener que jugarselas con los manes que nos clasificaron... el tiempo para experimentar ya paso... ahora es unir al grupo que se entiendan y interpreten lo que el man quiere en la cancha..

    En general Colombia mal si no le ganamos a Tunez... yo hubo muchos cambios que esto era para poder ensayar etc.... pero partido es partido y hay que salir a ganarlo sea quien sea....
     
  11. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Well a bit late to comment on the game, although I don't have too many things to say different from what you guys said. It wasn't a good performance at all, but also Pekerman tried some things and we shouldn't judge him according friendlies. It's better to see what's wrong in friendlies and then to fix. As for the CB, I hope he'll stick with Valdez next to Yepes, for me it's the right pair.
     
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  12. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Castigo, y ojo en los ultimos 3 partidos mondragon ha tapado mas que ospina
     
  13. minus

    minus Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 18, 2004
    Portugal
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I missed the game... Can anyone post an their opinion on player ratings for the game? I would like to know how Valencia-Aldo combination did.
     
  14. viscajunior

    viscajunior Member+

    Aug 3, 2008
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Ospina - 3
    Arias - 5
    Yepes - 4
    Perea - 6
    Miñia - 6
    Valencia - 7
    Aldo - 6
    James - 8
    Cuadrado - 6
    Ibarbo (hasta que se jodio) - 6
    Bacca - 5

    Mondragon - 6
    Abel - 5
    Balanta - 6
    Macnelly - 6
    Ramos - 4
    TEO - INCALCULABLE, NUMEROS DE DIOS.
     
  15. viscajunior

    viscajunior Member+

    Aug 3, 2008
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Te perdiste el PASE de TEO a James, mas nunca creo que se vuelva a ver a menos que TEO lo haga o lo mejore.
     
  16. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    aldo mejor en el segundo tiempo....pero en el primero no hizo mucho....
     
  17. colombianballa91

    Jul 2, 2007
    NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Ospina-3 (Costly Mistake)
    Arias -6 (Made good runs, team needs to trust him a bit more)
    Yepes -5 (Average game, no blunders or anything)
    Perea -4 (Average game got red carded)
    Miñia -4 (Out of form and it showed)
    Valencia -5 (defensively did alright, linking up with the attacking midfielders not so much)
    Aldo - 6 (also had trouble linking with the attack but did alright)
    James -7 (played well, at times tried to do too much and lost the ball)
    Cuadrado -6 (also played pretty well, more so when the attack was not stagnant and created space)
    Ibarbo-6 (looked pretty good for the time he was out there..his physical traits really show)
    Bacca - 5( Did ok. Had a chance on a header that he blew, but other than that never got chances)

    Mondragon - 5
    Abel - 5
    Balanta - 6 (surprised me a bit, didn't look like his first time out there)
    Macnelly - 5
    Ramos - 5 (His work rate was good, the midfielders just had no fluidity in the vertical passing game so like the other forwards, he had very few chances with the ball)
    TEO - 6
     
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  18. viscajunior

    viscajunior Member+

    Aug 3, 2008
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    ;)
     
  19. Tio Nicci

    Tio Nicci Member+

    Nov 13, 2008
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Well if you value my opinion here goes

    Ospina-1 just plain terrible, made bad decisions and his punts were plain amateur. Hope shakes it off

    Arias-6 played good maybe a little too offensive that leaves opponents counters a festival if were playing an elite speedster.

    Perea-4 average game

    Yepes - 5 average game

    Armero- 3 played bad, terrible short passes and lobs, he's off rhythm.

    Valencia- 5 average game terrible passer though

    Aldo- 6 played a lot better in the 2nd half and actually created momentum.

    Cuadrado- 6 try to do his typical run and gun and gannets but tunez defense were on point. Played above average but not excellent.

    James- 5 I consider it an average game, we know his potential and his decisions were sloppy, scored the pk where credit is due. But his worst feat was his attitude, he just became very egotiscal all of the sudden, guess the pressure is hitting him.

    Bacca - 2 plain terrible invisible, also outbid Rythm with nt wise not club.

    Ibarbo -5 played good defense and had a few runs on offense. Overall he's been impressing me.

    Teo- 6 played a good game, two good passes and one led to an almost goal. Still not the offensive monster that certain people make him to be.

    Ramos- 4 just lost, not comfortable, not sure if we have enough time to fill him in. Almost created a goal from nowhere though.

    Subs

    Mondragon- 5 definitely led the goal with more confidence.

    Aguilar- 7 defense rock, great facilitator just played patient and smart.

    Macnelly- 1 I didn't notice he was subbed in

    Balanta- 6 above average, I didn't know he can play on the lats, also lived to his hype, has mad potential. Also surprised me with decent ball control.
     
  20. ryu79

    ryu79 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Thanks. Always appreciated. My DVR only started taping at the 27m mark (since bein changed the schedule) so I missed most of the first half.
     
  21. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    haha Ospina had a lower rating then Perea, Armero or YEPES !!! You guys serious? What about the other shots he stopped? Ospina doesn't trust his defense and this is a big problem come the WC. Unfair to say anything bad about any of our strikers. We didn't give them shots. James got robbed a 2nd PK and could have taken the free kick a bit better, Ramos was given 1 chance all game and almost scored on a half chance, Baccas header wasn't really as clear as people make it out to be, and Ibarbo got his back broken on his 1st attempt. Teo played like a play maker.

    Pekerman - 2 ..... Didn't want to play a friendly until Adidas forced him to. Played a shit formation, called up 3 guys who are injured, we need new CBS and didn't bring any played the end of the game with 1 !!! !!!!!! and A LB, DM !! STOP BEING HARD HEADED!!!! Says no new players..... great.....

    -Ospina - 5 - awful error but after Yepes and Pereas F ups early in the game he stopped trusting them. Really needs to hold on to the ball instead of punching it. Also the goal kick leading to the goal was awful but again No MF !!!

    -Perea - 3 - guy has always been an idiot and lost his speed. Useless player, hope he gets injured b4 the WC to rid us of his stupidity. Counter attacks with him give me heart problems. Not to mention his kinder kicker mistakes like passing the ball to Yepes with a striker near him.

    -Yepes - 4 - again Speed kills this guy. Dive and gets away with silly tackles we won't at the WC with less lienant refs come knockout rounds with bigger teams. Did he do the right thing and asked to be subbed like in the Chile game? So you guys think he is a hero? At this point I think he is only on the team to say FU Leonel and break his NT appearance record.

    -Armero - 2 - can't run, defend, cross or pass...... needs minutes in his club

    -Arias - 8 - kid defensively is a beast and great attacking. Shows heart and hunger. Sadly the team doesn't trust him yet or use him as much as they should. Plenty of times he went up to attack was in a good position and no one even looked at him. Starting to agree he should start at the WC

    -Valencia - 4 -How is he a shitter player now that he is actually playing for his club?

    - Aldo - 4 - I know Pekerman likes old shits on our team but he was the worst player in the 1st half and got to play the whole game. Can't defend, pass, shoot or cross. Why he starting?

    - Cuadrado - 6 - started off good and that cross to that Bacca couldn't put away

    - Jame - 12/10 - Not his best game but with a little luck could have had a hat trick. Trys to do too much himself but no one was awake. His tenacity helped us get 3 points before. Sadly we played James +10

    - Ibarbo -N/A - hurt early on for the PK... didn't do much

    - Bacca -N/A- didn't really have service as we had no MF

    Subs

    - Mondragon - 6 - didn't have much to do but WTF THIS SUB !!! Rather lose 15-1 next game then putting him in again. This sub made 0 sense. Yes lets F our starting goalies head by putting Mondragon in

    - Balanta - N/A - didn't do much and played out of position

    - Abel - 7 - He came in and the game changed. We had a MF. Not a good one but one that actually could pass and defend

    - Torres - 5 - had 2 great passes but doesn't defend and goes MIA for a while

    - Teo - 6 - a great SS would love to see him and Jackson together. Really changed my mind. Dude needs to start

    - Ramos - N/A - again had no service, 1 half chance and was unlucky. If it was Teo Dusty would be saying how unlucky he was but because he is not people trashing his performance.
     
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  22. Tio Nicci

    Tio Nicci Member+

    Nov 13, 2008
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Yet again your exaggerating with your antics.

    I speak for myself, and ospina was plain shit the whole game, this isn't an biased opinion for the deportivo Cali all star team. Anywho strikers need ratings even if they didn't get service. I looked at their runs, attempts, passing and defense. James try to play a 10+ James game and look what had happened? It backed fired on his ass. Instead of yelling at his players, making faces and pouting by kicking the ball in air isn't going to make a team play better.

    So what does James do the whole game? Tries to take control of the game every second and failed hard at it. That's where my criticism goes at. He caused one free kick big whoop guess he's a superstar after that one? He took the ball from balanta and Armero several times, he would yell at Aldo to give him a 3m short pass so he can try to make a super play.

    For all those James fans, I love him too as a player, have his jersey in red too. But this isn't James that I grew to love, it seems that he's becoming a total diva now. For our sake I hope our number one player change his attitude so we can play better
     
  23. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    #898 Froboy69, Mar 10, 2014
    Last edited: Mar 10, 2014


    Obviously this video begs to differ.

    James made a few mistakes, but he was not anything below excellent when he did play. Oh and CLEARLY you can see him actually passing the ball most of the time when he doesn't need to despite him also making runs. Sure some of them were bad or cut off when going up the wings, but he still attempted to give service.

    Failed hard at it? You couldn't be more wrong. He did as much as he could and we agreed that this was not the fault of one player that we didn't win against this team. He's the number 10 for a reason; the best player and he gives it all he has when he helped build the attacks. If he was as terrible as you said, then clearly Pekerman would have subbed him like they did with Bacca.

    So far, there were only 3/4 times when he manhandled. He tried to give us as may chances as possible, and I think that there were moments where players were more selfish compared to James (I mean, you saw that run that Arias did from his pass and did not try sending it to the center). He made his presence known.

    On another note, when EXACTLY does he take the ball from Armero/Balanta?


    I give him a 8.5 because he did make mistakes, but he also di well enough to stand out as MVP of the match.
     
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  24. Tio Nicci

    Tio Nicci Member+

    Nov 13, 2008
    Houston, Texas
    Club:
    Deportivo Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    He failed because he's our star that's why I'm harsh on the lad. I look at this guy as an idol who can make our team play better. Yes the team itself failed as a unit but James is that super glue for our offense without him we play no offense. So yes he failed that game. Sometimes we have to admit even the best play bad games
     
  25. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Look, I understand that winning with even the players that we have no matter the friendly is always a good thing, but we have to accept it that James isn't in his prime yet, and that we can't always win. Yes he should have been flawless, but we have to accept the fact that he's human. We shouldn't worry until our best XI loses or fails to win against a team like Tunisia.

    Even the announcers were pointing this out, that this was not our best as usual because this was not a our 'full' roster. We'll win when we NEED to. I can promise you that.
     

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