México propone C.América con 16 selecciones

Maybe so, but Mexico will also have to win some along the way, which are equally as hard to get, so nobody has it easy either way.
At present times Mexico is playing great, but all you need is a couple of bad results and things might turn pretty dificult.

No one has it easy, in Conmebol.

 

Whats probably needed for the good of all the Americas is a fusion of Conmebol and Concacaf.This would spare us all the Uefa dominated scene we have today.We would also have a genuine Copa America even if we had to have qualifiers.

 

Copa America already is genuine, as it was named that way, by Conmebol.
We don`t need anyone from Concacaf, for that purpose.

 

People should just accept the fact that CONCACAF and CONMEBOL are separate.

 

Well at least take the 3 little South American countries that play in concacaf

 

If you ask me, it would be great to have them in Conmebol (at least the 2 sovereign countries), in order to have ourselves a Copa America with 2 groups of 6, without any other invited guests from other Conferences, and only for CONMEBOL countries, as it should have been, from the begining, when some of those "dopes" within Conmebol administrative office, decided to invite some of the first "guests" to it.

Leave Copa America, as an Only for Conmebol Tournament.


(Although, I must say that what I would really prefer, is to have only one joint Conference for all of the American Continent. Till then, Copa America only for CONMEBOL)

 

It's official.

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México y Japón invitados a Copa América Chile 2015 http://bit.ly/Sj5ouv


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Anuncia Conmebol una "Copa América Centenario" en EU para el 2016, con 10 equipos de Sudamérica y 6 de la Concacaf, incluído México

 

el mundial en 2014, copa america en 2015, las eliminatorias del 2018 ya se van a estar jugando en 2016, y encima esta otra copa? los equipos europeos van a patalear de lo lindo
hmmm no se...
veremos quien viene

 

De acuerdo, sobre todo considerando que esto va a ser en el medio del tramite de mundial a mundial, como lo fue este verano 2012, lo que significa que hay Eurocopa, no se que tan contentos esten los clubes teniendo a sus Europeos y Sudamericanos jugando a full durante un Verano, igualmente me gutaria saber si este torneo inventado teendra el apoyo FIFA para que los clubes esten obligados a ceder los jugadores. si ese no es el caso, vamos a ver a muchisimos jugadores de torneos locales.

 

Jumping the gun like always..... People Conmebol hasn't agree to anything.

 

hmmm they haven't reach their price yet.... this is gonna cost you

 

Regarding the "Copa America bicentenario" (which doesn`t constitute the same as the traditional Conmebol Continental tournament. Just a similar naming issue involved here), the refered link only talks about national teams.

In no where, it clarifies that the conformation of the rosters of each national team, will be made up among the best players of each country, so as I said somewhere before in another post related to this issue, each NT perfectly, can be made up by "B", "C", or whatever level of players of each of the participating nations.

It wouldn`t be awkward, to find out that those NT´s, would be made up only based on players of each of the local leagues, an issue that wouldn't affect any European clubs interest, in no way, as no one of their players would be among those called. And as it doesn`t constitute a FIFA date, they are not forced to let them go, if they still are called.

This "B" level tournament should be equally welcomed.

 

In the pages of CONMEBOL, nothing is being said regarding the suposed "Centennial Copa America", suposedly discussed about recently, in its Congress. The only confirmed issue regarding national teams, is that for Copa America 2015, Mexico and Japan will be invited.

 

So let's get this schedule straight:

2013 Confederations Cup, Brazil and Uruguay
2014 World Cup
2015 Copa America Chile
2016 Craptennial Cup.

Good Luck getting the 2016 Craptournament as a FIFA date. the European clubs are going to be pissed! and we still have qualifiers to deal with? What a joke.

 

is a one time tournament to celebrate the 100years of the tournament.. i dont know why everybody is crying like little girls i think is a great idea

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And knowing CONMEBOL it won't be more than 2 months before the olympic games which Brazil will likely want to get the gold medal in football for the first time, plus the now usual issues with the invitees and the european clubs...

But if in CONMEBOL's site there's no mention of it then it may just be an idea on the air like the alledge Copa América in 2009 and 2013 which were reported in non-south american outlets but by then in South America it was known they weren't going to be played.

 

Conmebol invites National Teams from other Conferences because of the small number of teams of its own, as explained by Hill Giant.

The reason these National Teams send their B/C teams is because FIFA only requires clubs to release players to National Teams that are playing on their own regional tournaments. So they are forced to use players from within their own domestic league.

 

I would love to see a merger between Conmebol and Concacaf. Realistically however, the only ones that would add any value to Conmebol are Mexico and the USA. The USA's market potential however, may be enough to make it worth bringing along the other 40-something members to tag along.
I read an earlier post that mentioned the travel challenges are difficult to overcome, and I must agree with it. All Caribbean Teams would probably have to connect in Miami to fly anywhere else. From Miami to Rio or Buenos Aires, it's an 8-10 hour flight. It may be too much to have all those teams flying around.

If Conmebol is able to somehow snag the US, Canada and Mexico (and maybe the Central American teams could be welcomed too) without touching the Caribbean Islands, that would be ideal. We could even start talking about someday getting as strong as UEFA.

Australia did this by moving to Asia, maybe there's a way to do it here to.

 

But if you think that México, USA and Canada (even further north) can join Conmebol I can't understand how the geography argument holds it up.

 

4.5 slots for 9 teams, no Brazil

I dare say Argentina had it easy.

 

You can't be talking seriously on this one.
For 2010 WCQ, they ended at the very top and leaded them all through the last third of them, being most part of them always among the best 3 teams. During the 2006 WCQ campaign, it was probably even better (it was a 2 team battle only against Argentina, almost al the way through).

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clasificación_de_Conmebol_para_la_Copa_Mundial_de_Fútbol_de_2006
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clasificación_de_Conmebol_para_la_Copa_Mundial_de_Fútbol_de_2010

For the 1998 WCQ campaign (first time Conmebol used the all vs. all type of tournament), they didn't play in them, as by the time being they were the reigning WC champion (they won the WC in 1994), where WC champions got direct spots to the next WC.
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clasificación_de_Conmebol_para_la_Copa_Mundial_de_Fútbol_de_1998

If you want to remember one WCQ where they didn't do as well, take a look at the 2002 WCQ, where during the last half of them they were battling for the 4th place (last direct spot) and bearly got through tied to Paraguay for 3rd-4th place with only 3 points over both Uruguay and Colombia, who came tied for the next 2 places, where only one of them was to play the intercontinental playoff (Uruguay). That 3 point diference was achieved at the very last game of that campaign, where they played at home against Venezuela. The 2002 WCQ campaign, as to current Conmebol qualifiers type of tournament (all vs. all), has been Brazil's worst campaign, where almost every team beated them once, where even we (Chile), Conmebol's worst team at the time, beat them without any doubts by a very big score. Curiously afterwards despite these facts, they ended winning it all at the WC played in Japan-South Korea.

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clasificación_de_Conmebol_para_la_Copa_Mundial_de_Fútbol_de_2002


To the point over which we are talking about, is that at present times Brazil has a lot to struggle in order to get out of them and through to the WC. It's no "walk in the park" any more for them, as it was before for their older generations. Where even the worst teams in the Confederation, in a good day can beat, the best of it, even if this team is called as "Brazil".

yeah...., bearly made it through in 2010 WCQ, under Maradona's tutelage. If at their last game they would've lost to Uruguay, it would've been them instead of Uruguay, whom would have had to play against Costa Rica for the playoff spot. Before that last game was played, even Ecuador, who ended tied at 6th place, had a fair shot to advance over them both.

 

16 equipos,

12 de Sudamérica: Brasil, Uruguay, Argentina, Paraguay, Perú, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, Venezuela, Bolivia, Guyana y Surinam.

y 4 de CONCACAF.

Un capítulo aparte para Trinidad-Tobago y la Guyana Francesa.