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As much as I would like Ivanovic and Ramires to play, I wouldn't accept this scenario. Bayern would have 3 starters restored compared to only 2 for us. Not that their plea would actually affect UEFA's decision making.

Uefa would never over turn the yellows. Possibly next season we'll see them do away with this ridiculous rule but until then we need the possible starting players to focus.

I would say won't mind the Bayern starters, but Ivanovic Ramires both are crucial part of the team. Our form depend very much on the two

edit: in Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/apr/26/uefa-pardon-chelsea-bayern-union

& in Soccernet: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/s...o-repeal-champions-league-suspensions?cc=4716

The Dell was a great stadium and a real home advantage. When they moved to their new digs they lost some aura.

Yes, they may look at it for next year's competition, but for now it's a sealed deal. They really should have a third tier of card; some way to distinguish between dissent and dangerous play and/or violent conduct. I think dissent should be punished on the spot with 5 or 10 minutes in the sin bin, but that's the rugby player in me.

Ramires is a huge loss. He really had an excellent series against Barca. I don't know if he's more important to us than Badstuber, Gustavo or Alaba are to BM, but that's the situation and the team needs to deal with it. Good news is the match isn't next Wednesday.

How true is this though?

i think gustavo has been possibly their most important player in their run to the final.

and the drop off from badstuber seems large.

not including terry but the three yellows in isolation, i think bayerns are going to be missed more.

though of course you could argue the drop off from ivan is equally big

it's probably not worth arguing. negligible either way.

Guardiola to leave Barcelona - press conference to be held tomorrow

I can understand if Pep needs a break, but Barca fans are f**king kidding themselves if they don't see this as a big loss for them. Just look at that last paragraph - the man's achievements, one might think, should excuse him if they miss out on the league title and champions league final for ONE year. Only the knee-jerk and reactionary fans of Barca after being eliminated from the UCL will see this as a good thing.

I hope that whoever replaces Pep as manager beats the "cheating and diving ways" out of the squad.

Why wouldn't he just wait till the end of the season?

pat nevin is such a good color man... great match in san sebastian right now

I think he is waiting until the end of the season to actually step down, but it is curious why he's decided to announce this before the end of the season.

Lol...yeah, sorry, that was what I meant. i didn't expect him to step down all together right after the conference. I meant why not make the announcement when the season is over...they still have a chance at the copa del rey title.

I think these talks have been planned for a while now. And it makes sense to get it out of the way ASAP, gives the club more time to find a replacement.

I doubt whether or not winning the Copa will factor into his decision. Remember that he was talking about stepping down as early as 2010. I don't remember another coach mentioning the strain of managing the club so often either. The problem with Pep is that he's probably too intense for his own good. So I'm not too surprised he is stepping down, I kinda feared he would have last year already.