Liverpool Fc Vs Chelsea - Fa Cup Final - May 5 [r]

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by el-capitano, May 2, 2012.

  1. Italiaman Member

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    Before I show this 'goal' I want to say that Liverpool probably did not deserve to win the game;
    but maybe they did. It was not to be, as AC said. This to me is the final proof that it was indeed a goal.
    I read today that the goal line is the OUTER line of the goal line. Can someone confirm that?
    Because if that is true, it was for sure a goal. I heard people removed (graphically) the wood frame of the post to show that
    it was a goal for sure. The officials could not tell at high speed, so should HAVE awarded it. Anyway, nice
    to see Captain Gerrard backing AC for England. How could they leave him out. What about Jones for
    keeper? Was not impressed with our starter. Maybe Jones could have done the job.
    This super-slowed down image shows the ball in - I believe. I don't blame AC for celebrating - maybe Suarez
    could have went for the rebound, like Kuyt did. Anyway LFC will be back!!!
          
  2. B.A. Member

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    I concur.
  3. kopiteinkc Moderator

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    From another forum, not written by me:

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    So then Carroll got his chance.

    I've seen big forwards do this before. At all levels of the game these ponderous looking giants can suddenly, without warning, turn into rampaging behemoths. I don't know why this happens. I suspect Andy Carroll doesn't either. Anyway, number 9 had an almost instant effect. The team pushed up and - let's be frank here - we absolutely dominated possession and territory for 25 minutes. I can't recall such a sustained period of real pressure against a Chelsea side since Ranieri left (I want to say, maybe, the game where Owen terrorised Desailly at Anfield). It was an unusual feeling. We were outclassing Chelsea and they couldn't get the ball beyond the half-way line. They suddenly looked what they are - an ageing, slightly stupid team (Good luck Bayern. It ought to be piss easy for you).

    Fats called the last 25' 'the charge of the light brigade'. It's a nice phrase, but it probably summons the wrong image. I actually thought we were more subtle than that. It wasn't Agger and Skrtel lumping long passes up to Carroll, like it can be when we come to rely on his head. It was the flanks pushing back their full backs and sending in crosses from very dangerous positions. Two of the players to suffer horrible first-halves were obviously Downing and Enrique. I'm surprised by the mysterious reluctance in this thread to praise their effort in the second half. Downing in particular came strong. It was his aggression and the excellence of his timing that provided the assist for Carroll's goal. And whenever we recycled the ball on the half way line it was to the left wing that we looked. Johnson was equally heroic on the right but sadly, lacked a player in front of him with the drive that Downing had on the day. Bellamy was curiously subdued and Dirk, when he came on, was...well.... Dirk.

    The other player to come good in this period was Henderson who seemed, at last, to take a leaf out of his captain's book and turn into the danger areas with the ball. He's young and still a bit raw. I have hopes for this player.

    Did the ball cross the line? Who cares now. I thought so at the time and couldn't believe why the ref didn't at least quiz his linesman. But it shouldn't have mattered. Carroll spurned a decent chance later, when he scuffed a left foot shot, and at one point the ball fell invitingly to Skrtel who was the wrong man to capitalise.

    It's horrible losing a Cup. It was just about tolerable because of the magnificence of the last 25 minutes. Our fans were great. Wembley stadium is rubbish. The FA are clowns. John Terry is a right-wing nationalist. Big changes need to happen in time for next season.
    usscouse, ScholesyLFC and el-capitano repped this.
  4. liverbird BigSoccer Supporter

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  5. usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

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    I wasn't far off that age when in my first season as a regular we went to Wembley, we'd just beaten Everton in the Semis and were playing the Gooners. Nuff said there, we lost that one 0-2. I didn't get to go but it was prolly the first time I'd seen Liverpool on telly. Little B&W figures running around on a speckled set that had trouble with vertical hold. All the neighbours in, with the dining room chairs lined up like the movies.

    One would think that, that was enough to put a kid off but we hung in and then it got worse. Next season we went down!!!! Then spent the next seven years or so standing on half empty terraces following the team in what Billy Liddell called "Down among the dead men"

    Then along came this man Billy Shankly.
  6. kopiteinkc Moderator

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    Spoke to my Mum a week or two ago about this same time period. I always knew that my Dad went to the semi and final in 1950. She informed she went to the semi final with him on a date, but when she got a ticket for the final, she gave it to my Dad -- they were engaged at the time and got married in 1951. I was floored that I hadn't heard that version of the story until a couple of weeks ago.

    Having beaten Everton in cup semis in 1950, 71, 77 and 2012 we have lost each final. Maybe we should avoid playing them in the semis!
  7. usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

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    Excellent plan. remember this for next season.
  8. usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

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    Doesn't matter does it. It's like with the "goal" disallowed against manure a couple of seasons back. Everyone saw the goal, the cameras saw the ball a yard and a half over the line. The only ones who didn't see it were the officials (maybe :)) and that's what counts. Once the ball is kicked off , it's never going to change.

    Like when Dowd gave Gerrard a red card at Anfield, next day he said he made a mistake, we still played a man down and lost.

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