Liguilla - Cuartos de Final del Torneo Bicentenario 2010: Chivas vs Morelia

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  1. metalmaster Member+

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    Entre "comillas".

    If they had not taken half your team to camp and useless partidos moleros, I believe Chivas could have taken the whole thing.
          
  2. Q.Q. Member

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    Real could have done better, but played it safe the first half, hoping to go all out in the 2nd. Either way the ref was terrible not a single 50/50 called in Chivas favor, 4 yellows and a red for Chivas?

    It doesn't even feel like Chivas is playing at home.
  3. El_LatinLover BigSoccer Supporter

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    :rolleyes:


    On a serious and coherent note, Love my chivitas, at least they put their necks out for mexico, unlike morelia and monterrey. Really enjoyed this season alot. Okay now our focus is on Libertad. Theres lots to be proud about fellas, no se aguiten como otros.
  4. ElRebañoSagrado New Member

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    Like you stated before, the lack of experience killed us.

    It was always a "hope for the best, but prepare for the worst" kind of situation.

    Anyways, lets see how our remaining Libertadores journey goes.

    With Arrelano and Galindo back on the field, it'll give us a greater chance.
  5. El_LatinLover BigSoccer Supporter

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    Thats the spirit.
  6. chivamex10 Member

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    We will be champions next season
  7. tolucafan Member

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  8. Various Styles Moderator

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    Do not let love for the club blind you from what is going on.

    This is not the Copa Libertadores thread so save this speach for the teams eventual elimination..

    What would you prefer; 8 games won in a row or to be league Champions. And when the team is eliminated from the Liguilla by losing at home and playing the way they did; that is and always will be a FRACASO.

    Take your Moral Victory mentality to Atlas.. This is CHIVAS this is the supposed Best Team in Mexico. Do you know what this f'ing means; this means that we WIN and have the most Silverware. Seriously, Man the f'ck up.. Save all that crap; we won eight games, we sold Chicharo to Man U, for the idiot noobs that get brain washed by Vergara because he posts a bulletin every couple of months.

    Do you know what the great teams do; the try to win every tournament that they compete in. Chivas is Supposed to be a great team. And I say Supposed because they do not act like one and the majority of fans live in the past; the Campeonisimo era..

    And the way Vergara is treating the club we can forget about another Campeonisimo era. Not only did Chivas just lose the season but worse also lost the one man capable of helping make Chivas a winning team again. And why because of idiot Vergara rules that do not apply to futbol.

    There is a diffrence between STARTING players for f'cks sake or because the seleccion took them on a rule your own f'ing directivos proposed and Starting a player because he earned that spot. Chicharo beat out Borg and Ochoa to be a starter. Many of the players that are currently starters are only there because of CHANCE; and that would be great if we were Atlas but we are not.

    So, take your "theres lots to be proud of" mentality and GTFO. Chivas does not compete to debut little Johnny in a Liguilla or Copa Libertadores. Chivas Competes to win. I want Chivas to be the first Mexican team to win the Copa Libertadores. I want Chivas to continue being el Mas Chingon in the league.

    And guess what we are not the best and what little we have that seperates us from the other clubs we are soon to lose. Amierdica is only one league title away from catching up. Toluca is only two leagues titles away. I do not know about you but I do not want Chivas to share the glory as the Mexican club with the most league titles. As far as I am concerned Chivas should be leading the pack by 10 league titles.

    Fact of the matter is; Chivas pissed off two tournaments by not preparing right and we can add to that Lebrijas departure. This all makes for a very frustrating situation. Realize that next years Chivas might not even qualify for the Copa Libertadores.
  9. chivamex10 Member

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    Various Styles, you need to get laid.
    Don't get me wrong, I am very upset with chivas right now, why do they play like 2 completely different teams? The way chivas play in libertadoes is the way they should ALWAYS PLAY. Fight for every ball, fight with hunger, fight with intensity.
    Doesn't mean you should keep ranting on about stuff that is not in our hands though.
    Chivas is off doing bigger and better things in libertadores. And after the WC we will get our 12th star.

    No te awites guey, our time will come, very soon amigo.
    In the mean time go patrol the streets and see if you can snatch up some pusi cos you need to release some stress.
  10. PasionPorElTri New Member

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    What's going on with Pato Araujo? Did Real get mad at him or something? Like I said he is the one who needs to partner up with Enriquez not Chore. Enriquez what a player he will be (hopefully) he is someone to watch out for. I don't see how Reynoso starts, seriously they really need to load him off. I hope next season we don't see Solis, Baez, Esparza, Reynoso, Bravo. Esparza is like a dead man playing. Tepa sucks so bad this kid really can't play for shi... Reynoso is the best definition of a tronco. Bravo has been done for. Baez doesn't do much. Be goneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. I can't blame REAL for being defensive, it is, what it is. There was not much to choose from. On to the next one. I'm hurt, but I won't commit suicide.


    P.S. Davila is showing good things, how old is he 18?
  11. El_LatinLover BigSoccer Supporter

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    And im the one that leaves a floating pile of turd that wont flush? Hey Moderator el choul, i know that u dont say shit when various styles starts the shit, but when i get upiddy you edit me, i know you wont edit various so why bother? Whatever you say various, 2 mods versus me just doesnt add up.
  12. El_LatinLover BigSoccer Supporter

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    Very well put.
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  13. Various Styles Moderator

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  14. FBNR Member

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    hey guys im new to the forum.
    anyways so far ive learned is that the only true winner in chivas this season was chicharito.
    unless somehow chivas pull victorious in the libertadores.
    which i doubt.
    oh and props vergara because that guy is the definition of business.
  15. el-choul Super Moderator

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    If you have a post where VS is attacking you excessively, instead of attacking your arguments/opinions, please report it.

    For the record, I was in favor of picking up veterans in Clausura 09, for the same reasons that VS suggests now. But having seen how poorly the team performed during 2009, I don't blame them for not trying for several veterans this year (they did bring back Bofo remember).

    I share VS's feelings about this season though. I try to keep a positive attitude, but you could see it coming a mile away. If the team was successful, they'd get their best players taken away. If they weren't, then it was another wasted season.

    What kind of Chivas Essence or Chivas Tradition are the youth squads learning, when the team has only one 3 titles in 40 years? Especially when we don't have the no money excuse anymore? Hell, Pachuca has more Concacaf titles in the past decade. How many titles has Michel won? What winning tradition is he, Reynoso, or Bravo teaching anyone? Pato and Esparza sure are showing off their U17 leadership right? I'm not saying get rid of those players, but we need veterans on the team who have won more than one title to provide leadership, to show how hard you actually have to work to succeed (and to show what success really is).

    That's the curse of the torneos cortos. There's always another tournament coming up. But if you don't win it, the losses keep on piling up, and other teams . Meanwhile, to go back to the mistakes from last year, Arellano Sr. wins back to back titles with Necaxa and returns them to Primera.
  16. Phenom Member+

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    Piss poor game. I don't know why Real started with such a conservative line-up.
  17. DGreat Moderator

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    some noobs are just so gullible and eat up anything they are fed. I want my championships. I want more than just 1 concacaf championship. I want another campeonisimo. I want us to be the best, and by being the best you have to spend a little and nurture a little as well. We can't heavily rely on our cantera but we can't also be so dependent on outside players. We need the best of both world.
  18. DGreat Moderator

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    Pineda was a nice example of winning titles.
  19. Banner or Hulk? Member

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    The Liguilla is a different beast. Chivas was only one point ahead of Monterrey (but had lost the head to head matchup) after the national teamers left. Monterrey was just rolled by Pachuca over two games. Its nice to think this team would of won it all had they not lost five guys, but thats ignoring the fact that this team was capable of laying an egg like they did in Chiapas too.

    Plus whats with the Chivas fans hoping America takes out Toluca because of one troll? You guys are a disgrace, you should be rooting for any team that plays America.
  20. Rebaño_Sagrado Member+

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    Good points Bruce Banneh from Alabama
  21. el-choul Super Moderator

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    Yeah which is why he was a good signing originally, bought him major time with Chivas in my book, and worth resigning when he demanded to stay that first time (if only they done the same with Bofo). Then he also failed to win a title in the 6 seasons following the Chivas title, and was part of a team that failed to qualify to liguilla in 3 straight seasons. I value Lebrija's judgement, and if he decided Pineda was part of the problem, then I'm ok with the transfer given the depth we have at DM (not ok if it was another Vergara lie to get rid of someone with a high salary).

    FWIW, the winning titles argument could be used with Ponce too, but things never clicked.
  22. DGreat Moderator

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  23. MEXICO WILL BE CHAMP BigSoccer Supporter

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    I agree with some of the points brought up by all, but at the same time VS no mames most of us could give a shit about El Campeonisimo,whos living off of old memories? I wasnt even born yet and I assume most of the people here werent either but maybe you were IDK, and saying to posters who try to look at the positives in defeat to GTFO is plain bullshit maybe you should GTFO with your negative Chivas sucks shit,If you dont feel Chivas is el mas grande then go root for America, as for me Chivas en las buenas y en las malas.


    Oh and also as far as attendance goes maybe they are just like some people here bandwagon jumpers in glory shit talkers in defeat.
  24. Crim Member

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    the only one to blame here is "La Selection National" every time we got a good squad to win any championship , Libertadores,FMF Tournament we get screw over & make teams like pachuca & toluca big, so far we should of win atleast 3 more FMF titles & 1 Libertadores.:mad:
  25. Hecho en Chivas Member+

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    one thing is certain, Vergara and Co. should have planned accordingly knowing very well that we would be losing players to the NT

    granted, i don't blame them one bit in thinking that we wouldn't get so screwed; at the beginning of the year, it only seemed that Chicharo, Magallon, and Michel would be the ones going to the WC; no one thought Bofo and Venado would get called as well

    sure, it's nice to have such a great youth system and it gives us bragging rights when we point at our guys at Europe and the Sub 17, 20, 23 teams, but in the end it does not give us championships

    i am personally not against brining in players from other teams, so as long they are experienced and can contribute to our cause

    this season towards the end showed why we need to bring in players - experience and depth

    i'm tired of this "ya merito" crap, especially after having such a kick ass season half way through

    i know there are Bravo haters on here, but i hope Chivas extend his contract. with Chicharo gone, who do we have? not one of the young guys have stepped up in his position. and sure we have Salazar (who's on loan only thank God), Davila, and Vasquez but they are still too green. we keep Bravo and slowly incorporate those 3 guys onto the team

    i understant some posters on here feel that VS is over exaggerating, but he has a point. we are not a damn feeder club
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