Liberty University Students to Mitt: "You're Not Christian"

The fact that Santorum did so well in the south indicates as much. If Romney was Methodist or Baptist, it wouldn't even have been a race.

 

Like libertarianism. Let's face it Matthew, you guys are trending into Scientology territory.

 

There is hope for you. You clearly understand what being a troll is, but you apparently can't help yourself. Libertarians are supposed to be about freedom and letting people do or believe whatever they want, no? So, if you find this discussion "obviously stupid" you have two choices: 1) ignore it and do something else with your time; or 2) post something as an obvious wind up to the people involved in the discussion.

I think you have the smarts to figure out what is what. But carry on.

 

For me, Romney's religion doesn't even enter into the equation. Politically, I just didn't care for him as much as I did some other candidates. However, I know that's not the case for a lot of people. Truth being told, I wasn't enthusiastic about any of them once Cain dropped out. That being said, I'll have no problem voting for Romney.

 

TBH, it seems to be the left that has a problem with religious bigotry, not the libertarians or even the GOP.

 

Okay, maybe I gave you too much credit before and you really can't figure this out. Yes, you are indeed entitled to broaden the discussion into a more philosophical and perhaps an even more interesting debate. It's called a new thread. I'll refresh your memory. This one is about one set of Christians acting on what their definition of Christianity is as applied to other religions.

 

I agree wholeheartedly with this. Liberty University appears to be populated by center-of-left zealots.

 

They can do whatever they want, no doubt, but there's inherent criticism in being so wrapped up in a denomination or religious belief in general that you pass on a commencement because the speaker isn't in your club.

Why?

 

I don't know . . . maybe because Jesus didn't get involved in politics back in the day? Not that following Christ's example is paramount to most Christians these days.

 

People who believe in God believe for a lot of reasons, and one of these is the idea that he will help deliver them from or thru some unfortunate situation in their lives. That probably isn't as foreign to you as your post made it seem, but it's worth mentioning that a lot of churches had and have a personal connection to the struggle against slavery, against Jim Crow and now against their own fellow Christians who stand in God's way. Helping create a government that won't shy away from these issues is considered to be part of doing God's work. Asking whether that's how it ought to be misses the point that without that personal connection, a lot of folks would have given up on the struggle against dehumanization, and the United States would be a lot less Christlike than it is today.

The church building itself has been used for generations as a place to discuss political strategies to deal with injustice, and they've allowed a lot of people to address many of society's human rights issues when doing so outside the context of faith would have gotten them silenced. If a religious organization can't do that, it fails miserably at the biggest test it'll ever have to prove itself as an organization dedicated to God's work.

 

^^^What exactly did you mean by church?

Abortion is an interesting case. As a Catholic, the Church's current litmus-test focus on it presents a real problem for Catholic candidates. If a candidate favors active elimination of it, he/she gets both official blessing and the support of a not-insignificant number of conservative Catholics, but probably loses general support. If he/she is Ok with government toleration of it, then he/she loses a lot of Catholic support. Biden has to put up with some priest/bishops denying him the Eucharist.

OTOH, I doubt there are many of you who favor the Chinese and Indian practices of abortion for the sole practice of getting male children. Sorry if any of you are offended, but I find it repugnant.

 

In the spirit of this thread, when Joe Biden gets to heaven for raising his boys after their mom died and those Bishops go to hell for raping altar-boys, we'll know who was the better Catholic all along.

 

Colin Powell was my graduation speaker during a time when he was pretty busy bullshitting Congress. There were many times I did not stand and so forth when others did. If, say, the speaker was W, I would have protested even though he was the President. I think it's good that these kids are honestly saying what they believe, even if I think it's all nonsense. It makes them that much easier for me to discount.

 

ok, but how about Religions that do mix Politics with government say Hindu or Islam, is it ok for their temples to get involved in politics?

It sucks that they do it, but based on their cultural tradition is understanding why they pick boys over girls, China and India need to change some laws to make it cheaper / beneficial for families to keep the girls.

Saying that I am ok if the families feel they can not afford another child and have an abortion.

 

You can say it, it just simply renders your opinion meaningless.