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Discussion in 'FC Dallas' started by burning247, Aug 4, 2005.
Turn on Good Day Dallas on Ch. 4 for a piece on PHP, I meant to post this last night, sorry.
ok well nothing new, GE talked with this reporter (who couldn't seem to speak correctly) about the delays and they showed many workers still building things like the store and press box area. The field lines looked faded but I'm sure they're going to pain them on thick, and the happiest news from the video is that it looks like we got permanent box goals! They had the single goal frame leaning up behind where each goal will be and holes in the ground. And the goals they used for the practice the other day were on the stage, so it wasn't them. Woo hoo.
woo hoo for the goals!
like the old song says "those itty-bitty things that mean so much"
I propose a rolling cheer: "H!" "S!" "G!"
or maybe 2-sided cheer "Lamar!" "Hunt!"
how many Open Cups are named after you? you skeptic you!
if you drink a Coors, you might join in too!
btw re: nothing in particular:
the dimensions of the field?
(in today's S-T feature "Moving Day Approaches"
p.11 D by Tobias Xavier Lopez):
74 × 118 yards.
my prediction in case you forgot: Ronnie's blast of a cross or shot (crystal ball keeps clouding over on that moment) causes chaos in the MetroStars goal mouth and Aaron Pitchkolan converts for the 1st ever MLS goal at Pizza Hut Park!
btw Zé Bill's favorite pizza? Pizza Hut!
did i mention "woo hoo!" for the box goals?
I saw it this morning too. The stadium looks so cool!
I mean am I correct in assuming that we got them from the facts I saw on the broacast? I just hope I don't get anyones hopes up (including my own ) and they put out the other MLS goals, come on box goals! Come on Hoops!!
Since we were already told, or at least Jonno was, that PHP would be having box goals I think its safe to assume that you did indeed see things correctly.
ah you see, that I did not know, thank you Adam. This may also be a case of me needing to get on TIDN more often
I'm glad you confirmed it though...I was a little worried seeing the temp goals up on Monday night. Not that I think it makes a big difference, but I just don't want to hear the bitching from fans around the league about how "unprofessional" everything is at PHP because of the goals.
Why are people so ********ing enamored with box goals?
A goal is a goal is a goal is a goal.
What are box goals without a roof
Seriously. String a net between two trees....its still a goal if the measurements are right.
And terraces and meat pies.
[whinny voice inside from being raised in Coppell] but I want a box goal!!!!![/voice]
seriously, it wouldn't matter, but its the little things my friends, the icing on the cake, sure the cake is good with no icing, its good cake, but this just adds to the smile it leaves on your face......I really need to get more sleep....
And less cake, apparantly.
If you eat too much icing, you'll get sick to your stomach.
Or so I've heard.
However, GoldFinger will offer you $5 to eat a shot glass' worth of icing.
It's about looking major league. Why would you have the same goals as any high school team?
vw wrote: why are people so passionately enamored with box goals?
box goals are about about getting rid of false positives:
[stick with me here, I can win you over]
the posts and crossbar of the actual 8' X 24' goal are "true" positives. They say: "Shoot Here"
You could say "true positives" are "things that actually matter" in the playing of the game
the other elements (all the other pipes except the crossbar and 8' posts) of the portable goals represent "false positives":
they look exactly like the "true positives", they are made of the same pipe and, sadly, always, it seems. painted the same color as the "true positives"
the false positive bits are only there to hold the net back and to keep the goal from falling over. It's inelegant for them to be made of the same stuff and imitate the look of "what matters"
so. to sum up. it's not a huge deal---yes, it would take a player with the IQ of a moth to actually aim for the angled-back irons--but it's a deal. anyway
or how about this:
the shooter has to see and instantly discard as irrelevant half of the visual that a portable goal puts out?
If reading this post has made you drowsy---and therefore you get to sleep early and get ahead on your sleep for this weekend---well, you may thank me later.
The only false positive that I can see is the one you got on the "I'm not crazy" test.
Perhaps they help a bit.
But it still doesn't solve the biggest false positive problem -- players focusing on the keeper and kicking the ball directly at him.
So to summarize, it assists in faster visual aquisition by the player. Makes sense to me.
Letter #1) if a little paint would take care of this visual acquisition issue---why hasn't KwikGoal or somebody bothered?
Number B) also on the visual acquisition topic, the INSIDE of the net should be white, and the OUTSIDE
some duller shade: to those about to slog through, I salute you!
you're an attacker with the ball on the end-line
where the penalty area line touches. You are considering attempting a mini-Olympico goal.
(hopefully you do this without even levantando la vista, but in reality...)
you do look up, and you see, from far to near:
i) the far post
ii) a tiny bit of the net that says "Goal!"
iii) the near post
iv) a tangle of netting half of which (the inside back wall) says "GOAL!!" overlapped with more of the same netting (the outside side wall) contradicting itself and saying "NO CIGAR!"
imco Number B) would take care of iv) and make the goal look more "tunnel-like" and three-dimensional.
hopefully, Armis36, you can get in here and clean it up a little? If you happen to agree!
Letter #3) there are video cameras in use at huge nationally-televised events that could fit inside the hollow pipe that goals are made of---yet ESPN2 uses on Soccer Saturday a vague, very distorting wide-angle camera on the ground looking through the net. and they call ME crazy!
I expect Number B) and Letter #3) above to be in use at Germany '06, having been pioneered at Pizza Hut Park by FC Dallas of Major League Soccer.
(one can expect, can't one?)
all that being said:
I'm totally with you: a string between trees or even 2 piles of jackets have been the goals for some pretty cool soccer games, can I get an "amen, brother"?
The Phillips Goal Cam (used by ESPN during Nats games) addresses Letter #3) fairly well.
Number B is very intriguing...
fill me in on the Philips goal cam---how high off the ground etc?
does it itself travel side to side?
i can only remember what I described---almost a fish-eye camera, on the ground. doesn't seem to swivel or zoom.
btw shouldn't you be napping?
ps I thought I was gonna get an "Amen, brother!": To pick-up games with trees for goals!
The goal came is mounted to the net or something like that in one of the upper, back corners of the net. I don't think it moves, though. Mounting some motorized device and hiding it in the cross bar would be pretty sweet.
And I can't nap - I'm having to work normal people's hours today to get off work in time to make the full 24-hours of tailgate goodness.