Las Vegas is viable

Really? Weather.com would seem to disagree.

http://www.weather.com/outlook/trav...SNV0049?begHour=15&begDay=189&from=hrly_graph

Today's forecast has it at 99 degrees at 7pm. Now, unless today is a record high day, I don't think it's that far of a stretch for it conceivably be at 105 on certain days. Hell, the majority of this month, if you look at the monthly forecast has LOWs above 80 degrees. That kind of shoots your theory in the foot, because if the low is 82, it's going to happen in the middle of the night, not at 7pm.

So, you're "usually" is almost 20 degrees lower than actual. Perhaps it's the area of Vegas you're living in. The buildings, concrete, etc of urban centers typically make the temperature much higher. If you live outside of the more urban area your temps are likely to be lower. That's giving you the benefit of the doubt.

 

I was talking about Phoenix. Try and keep up.

 

if Beckham does deploy his right to own an MLS squad, this is the odds on favorite spot i think he would plant his team. Vegas evening games are viable, it would only have to be an evening game though of the 7 p.m. variety.

 

nothing concrete obviously just speculation thats all we can do at this point, NYC would be a good option, but Vegas has just as much glitz and glamour albeit in its own way. Itd be close to his home in LA, its a place to see and be seen, just my opinion it just seems his style. Even if it isnt Beckham's spot i think some high roller types in vegas would be interested in the prospect.

Then again theyre BARELY going to complete City Center the way things are going with that city right now. I just dont know.

St Louis would be the favorite for that #20 but Vegas for me is the #1 dark horse going up to 2012 (that is assuming Montreal is all said and done as 19)

 

A year ago I was in Vegas for a bachelor party. My plane touched down at midnight. It was 99 degrees at midnight!

 

That's a ridiculous statement, as we now know.

 

That was more than Chicago drew that year (five something), thus my question.

BW, I used to take the magazine from whence came that article. Soccer Corner; those were the days (sigh).

 

Or he could just be a Noob. It's 95 there now, says weather.com and supposed to be 102 between 4 and 5pm. Meanwhile, it'll be 109 and up here this weekend.

 

I am not sure but the owner , I forget his name, must have thought something more about San Diego. The Sockers were one of the most successful indoor soccer teams in the sport's short history. Combined with outdoor and indoor after they moved from LV, that team lasted 20 years. Thats more than any pro soccer team in the US. Maybe they could have done the same in LV, but at that time, I don't think so. Then again with Zungul Segota etc etc, they may have drawn good crowds there too...who knows?

 

If you're going to combine indoor and outdoor, then, no, no that's not more than any pro soccer team in the US.

The Sockers lasted, effectively, from 1978-1996 (the last year they played in the CISL). There have been two teams that have revived the name (both - in the WISL/MISL II and now the PASL-Pro- have played indoor), but there's no direct continuity and there are gaps in time.

But the Milwaukee Wave (which is about to go away) has been around for 25 years. The Dallas Sidekicks were around from 1984-2004. The Wichita Wings lasted from 1979-2001.

And the team that is currently the PDL's DFW Tornados has been in existence since 1989, having gone through numerous name changes and changes in division. But they're still around. And the Minnesota Thunder has been around since 1990.

 

Actually, though, if you count the team's total existence, it was 1974-96; the Baltimore Comets moved to San Diego and became the Jaws, then moved to Vegas and became the Quicksilvers, and then moved back to SD and became the Sockers. That's still only 22 years, though.

The team didn't actually fold until 1996; it just moved and got a new name (like San Antonio/Hawaii/Tulsa, Denver/Minnesota, Memphis/Calgary, Philadelphia/Montreal, Colorado/Atlanta, Washington/Miami/Ft. Lauderdale/Minnesota, Detroit/Washington, and Hartford/Connecticut/Oakland/Edmonton). I don't count those like New England/Jacksonville, who moved but kept there original name.

 

I know this. But the San Diego Sockers as an entity, for the purposes of the discussion, were a factor on the American soccer scene from 1978 (their first season as the San Diego Sockers, outdoor) continuously (mostly indoor) until just prior to the 1997 CISL season (when they went away).

If you're going to "count" Baltimore/San Diego/Las Vegas/San Diego, why wouldn't you "count" New England/Jacksonville?

Point being - however you slice the San Diego franchise, it wasn't the longest-running in American professional soccer history.

 

Yeah thats right my cousin played for the Wave in 1984/85 after the NASL folded in the AISA......

 

Your in it for the the blonde bronzed tempe and scottsdale babes remember, your fighting the good fight

 

Why couldn't a few games be played in the indoor domed stadium chase field during the dog days of summer? I mean I've never been there but why not play like 5-6 home games there? If San Jose can play twice in Oakland to accomodate Beckham's no shows, I'm sure LV could do it in that thing especially since it already exists.....

 

Probably the expense of converting it from baseball to soccer and vice-versa, that would be one thing (as well as renting the place from the Diamondbacks, who are probably just as eager to share with a soccer team as MLS is to share with a baseball team). Sharing with baseball is not something they want to do, even temporarily, unless it's forced upon them like a Washington Nationals/DC United situation. Surely you wouldn't seek that out.

And you're not going to go into a situation where Chase Field is your primary home because it's that problem times three, and the only other venue that would make sense, then, is University of Phoenix Stadium and that only makes sense if the Cardinals are involved. Which I don't believe they are interested in doing.

Other than that - there's no place to play here. Sun Devil Stadium is way too big (though it was nice enough for a friendly in March between the Galaxy and the Fire) and is on a college campus, which you can get away with in some places, but which wouldn't be optimum here as a long-term home for the same reasons that most NFL stadium situations that aren't in Seattle or Foxboro aren't viable.

That's it. You'd have to build something else. And you'd have to build it with a dome unless you wanted to build something and not be able to use it from Memorial Day until Halloween.

 

not be able to use it from Memorial Day until Halloween??????

Dear Lord , is it that hot there for that long? man o man no place like the bay area weather.....

 

If you are going to do that, they would be better off playing at U of Phoenix Stadium. At least that stadium can handle a soccer game without major concessions.

 

We got lucky this year. Last year on Memorial Day (at least at my house) it was 117. This year we aren't getting the absolute full brunt of summer until just about this past week. And while it starts to cool off a bit in late September if you're lucky, we never feel quite out of the woods until Halloween.

Yep. Just gotta pay the Cardinals, though. And it's way too big for an MLS team.

 

Good one, besides being fried in the summer heat, Vegas would be a great addition, even with all night games, makes one feel like they are playing in the middle east with the desert heat...Columbus has not had good crowds even with all their success and it is such an ugly stadium...DC needs one and no apparent plans to build in the near future, relocation is a good thing whe their is backers and cities ready to support a faltering team...how Columbutt got a team in the first place astounds me...

 

(At 7pm last night it was 111 in Phoenix, just FYI.)

 

I'd take up gambling at the casinos as a full time jpb......or at least get a job there so I'd always be cool. LOL!

 

Thats why their stadium has a/c, besides they are used to it.