Larentowicz

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  1. Count Chocula

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  2. FireJuveChelsea

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    Good player but my question is why? He plays CDM correct? We have Pause and Pardo there, I'm not saying he's worse but we already have depth there. If we got rid of one of those 2 I'd like it but we need another good striker and Larentowicz costs us $200k and so we only free up what $150k so we won't go out and replace the DP we just got rid of. I'm guessing this moves Rolfe up top with Macdonald.
  3. ratdog

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  4. ionprovisioner

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    Here's what I posted on this over on HTIOT. I feel like ass, so I'm gonna punk out and just copy/paste it here:
    One of the really tricky things facing the Fire this season is managing the end of Pardo’s career with class and tact. His performances toward the tail end of last season make it clear that the Mexican great is not going to be an everyday player in 2013 – coming off of injury into a team that desperately needed him, Pavel looked a full step and half a thought slower than the guy who joined the team in 2011.
    Problem is, when we go to a double pivot of Paladini/Pause it’s obvious to everyone in the building we’re missing Pardo. Our cover isn’t as good; both guys in the double pivot tend to release the ball slowly, so countering is mooted; and the additive factor of having Pardo’s mind directing pairs of younger legs is missed by the team in a half-dozen ways.
    So is this the end of the double pivot? So much of the anti-Pause fervor on certain message boards has dwelled upon his need for a partner in the pivot to really do the job owing to his hesitant distribution. Pardo also needs a partner in the engine room, although more for stamina and pace issues than any technical shortcoming. Big Red can certainly man that position alone as a pure destroyer if that’s what Frank wants, so at least the anti-Pause brigade will have a new verse in their song this year.
    I doubt it means we’re going 4-4-2 or anything, though. The double pivot isn’t only popular because you can play two lesser d-mids together successfully – it’s popular because it releases the fullbacks from some responsibility when they burst forward. In a double pivot, the ballside d-mid tracks onto the wing when a fullback gets into attack, and can do so without leaving a mammoth opening in the pocket for a playmaker to step into.
    In other words, it’s not caution that dictates the tactic – it’s attack. If you want your fullbacks to get forward, the double pivot makes it a simple thing: One guy goes forward, another guy sees it and steps into the space to slow a potential counter. Without that surety, you’re counting on three or four guys to see the run by the fullback and move to protect it – the whole backline slides a little ballside, the d-mid splits the difference between the pocket and the wing.
    Now, with the offensive skills our fullbacks exhibit, it’s reasonable to ask whether we might get better coverage and better wide play by asking them to play more like Stoke and less like Barcelona. In that case, with stay-at-home fullbacks only dartingly pushing into attack and as quickly retreating, we could probably get away with solo Big Red in the pivot.
    Anyway, tricky times for Frank, as ever, as always. Here’s hoping.


  5. bunge

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    Has this asshole ever played fullback?
  6. Fanaddict

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    Does it bother anyone that we are getting guys in lindpere and larentowicz that other teams thought were not good enough anymore to play for them? I know we didn't give up much but still.Shouldn't we be going out and finding better players?
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    Got that international spot back lol

    NM read it wrong
  8. loonixxx

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    I mentioned in the other thread that he brings a dangerous freekick but I'm going to have to try and get over the fact that he once played for the anal gland rubber lotion. I actually expected your exact reaction. I'm sure a lot of others feel exactly the same way. Truth be told though we're a lot stronger with him as part of the lineup.

    Oh and ******** RUIZ!
  9. Mr. Warmth

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    Man, talk about about a turd to cap off a day that was nothing but a big bowl diarrhea
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  10. ionprovisioner

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    To those who don't like the deal: I think y'all are wrong on this one, and I further think that y'all will admit it before July. Book it.
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  11. Mr. Warmth

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    So what if we think it won't hurt, but won't help?
  12. bunge

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    Maybe it'll be like an unnecessary appendectomy.
  13. N1ckels5

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    Who cares who he used to play for. He wanted to come here to play over other places, isnt the bottom line to win games? He will help us do that he makes us a better team and thats all that matters I am 100 percent behind this move.
  14. nowherenova

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    You guys are cracked. This is a 'Chicago' kind of player. So much more to offer in terms of effort and athleticism compared to El Flaccid (yes I know they don't play the same spot). We've added quality and dumped garbage. On to the draft.
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  15. Mr. Warmth

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    I don't care if he is or isn't a "Chicago" kind of player. I'm tired of the Fire being mediocre. I don't see him changing that, especially when he gets sent off a couple of times a season.
  16. bunge

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    Did someone say red card?

  17. Salvatore Giuseppe

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    I mean, dislike him if you want, but he's been sent off only twice in 207 games according to the stats I'm looking at...Thats barely a higher average than Pause's 2 in 259, and a heck of a lot better than Pardo's 1 in 41
  18. goldclover

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    I like the pick up but must admit...it seems we have some depth here that is almost..too much (yes dares to say it but fears the curse of injury now). I suspect something more is in the works regarding the cdm's (losing one) and another striker or perhaps left wing or good cb depth is in the works. Maybe that is some wishful thinking but at least the Fire have done something more then a draft choice this off season. I am overly pleased this winter. Trimmed lessers (though I personally will miss Gargan) and picked up some decent pieces even if not overly a Big Deal (misses Blanco still). Maybe one or two more things will make things interesting even more.
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    I'm impressed by two "y'alls" used in the same sentence by someone from Flint, Michigan.
    From when I've seen Laurentowicz, he looks like a solid d-mid. Would have been a good pick up for FC Dallas instead of 33 yo Frenchman Peter Luccin who has barely played in the last year.
    A good MLS player, but possibly a bad fit for Fire.
  20. nowherenova

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    Well his last name is a perfect fit. :thumbsup:
  21. cweimers

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    So does this mean no one looks good to us in the draft?
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    Apparently
  23. YeOldeCoach

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    To me it says that the player we were hoping to get disappeared earlier so this was a better option than anyone else that was on the board at this point. We have the 30th pick I think and, IIRC, Rolfe was picked 29th so all is not lost. I'm not sure there is a lot of difference in players once you get past the first five or so. Jeff is a hard-nosed player and while I never enjoyed when we played against him, I certainly will feel better with him on our side than on someone else's.
  24. ionprovisioner

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    I lived in Texas for five years, and (once there) found the utility of an actual second-person plural pronoun to be considerable.
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  25. HerthaBerwyn

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    Second person plural is, of course, "all y'all".
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