Lara's Colombia :) who should he call ??? and who do u think will be on the team?

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  1. crzdcolombian

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    I think Lara def needs to write past wrongs by bringing in some of the young blood that he f'd up on and never called like Montero, Gio Moreno and also think that we dont really need new players but still a few more need to be added

    if bold means are new

    Gks
    1. Julio - the goals arent his fault and he stops everything... couldnt save us every time
    2/3 Blandon/Cuadrado - they are really proving themselves and are local so not so bad to call them and #2 goalie is never going to play
    4. Mondragon - starter in Germany but not going to play so why make him take the trip(Def my #2 if WC was tomorrow tho)
    5. Ospina - Needs to start getting minutes in france and then coming in during qualifers to learn from Julio(wont play tho till after 2010 WC)
    6. Zapata - not better than Mondragon or Ospina, and the trip is too far to keep making him take for nothing(also he had 3 shots and sucked in all of them)

    CBs
    1. Cristian Zapata - plays with heart and a broken cheek bone fore 60 mins
    2. Aquivaldo - the captain and leader but needs to start playing in spain
    3. Carlos Valdez - best CB in Colombia
    4. Mendoza - people dont like him but has alot of heart, strong and good free kick
    5. IRC,Yepes,Josmier,Luis Perea depending if they ever recover their form

    RB
    1. Zuniga - most talented player we have
    2. Bustos - dont care he doesnt have a team or plays..... Riquleme started for argentina and was their goal scorer last WCQ and never playd for Villareal
    3. Luis Perea - if we want to be very defensive

    LB
    1. Cassiera - reason dayro scored so much
    2. Armero - awful defending but ZUniga at the left
    3. Velez - if he recovers
    4. IRC - if he wants to come back and will play at left

    CM
    1. Abel Aguilar - :)
    2. Edwin Valencia - long over due
    3. Amaya - little guy has heart
    4. Robayo - what this guy gotta do
    5. Carlos Sanchez
    6. Gio Moreno
    7. Stalin Motta

    RM
    1. Guarin
    2. Molina
    3. Escobar
    4. Pino
    5. Adrian Ramos

    LM
    1. Toja
    2. Estrada
    3. Elkin Soto

    Strikers
    1. Rodallega
    2. Falcao
    3. Renteria
    4. Dayro
    5. Montero
    6. Edixion

    MY team :) we could easily play a 4-2-3-1

    ---------------------Julio------------
    Zuniga------Zapata-Aquivaldo-------Amero
    ---------Sanchez--------Guarin--------------
    ---Ramos/Dayro--Falcao/Dayro---Toja/Estrada/Soto
    ----------------Rodallega/Renteria----------

    or a 4-4-2
    ---------------------Julio------------
    Zuniga------Zapata-Aquivaldo-------Amero
    Ramos/Guarin---Sanchez--Robayo/Valencia---Toja/Estrada/Soto
    ------Rodallega/Renteria-----Falcao/Dayro----


  2. Alonso#13

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    I know a 3-5-2 would not be used but i would love to see it.

    -----------Julio--------------
    Mosquera-C.Zapata-W.Moreno
    Zuniga-----------------Armero
    -----------Amaya------------
    --Guarin-------------Toja-----
    W.Renteria--------Falcao

    even though we only have three CBS, Toja and Guarin are players who can both attack and defed while Amaya or Sanchez can be the #5.
  3. crzdcolombian

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    that formation is very good as well by id move take out Amaya cause he cant pass just defend and thats why we have 3 cbs..... Guarin cant pass either so I wouldnt put him their I think Robayo or Edwin Valencia would be perfect there but also Carlos Sanchez is a good choice

    at CB Carlos Valdez is a better Cb than Walter Moreno

    RM - Dayro plays there at Steaua, and Ramos or Pino if we want to use them as wingers

    -----------Julio--------------
    Mosquera-C.Zapata-W.Moreno/Carlos Valdez
    Zuniga-----------------Armero
    -----Sanchez/Robayo/Valencia------------
    --Guarin/Daryo-------------------------Toja-----
    --------W.Renteria--------Falcao------------
  4. FLFootballFan

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    Guarin has not shown much yet. We let the kid to regain is confidence with Oporto. Moreno??? that guy can't even crack Nacional's line-up on a consistent basis....what a fall from grace!!

    And about the formation, our futbol can't play that style of game.


  5. elviejomen

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    no creo que llame a pino, tuvo problemas con el en la sub 20 ... sera que buscara a libis?? que fue el que mas le rindio en la sub 20, porlomenos para tenerlo en banca o para hubicarlo en el radar
  6. pepinointer

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    no libis esta mas emproblemado q quien sabe q, toca tarerlo a colombia....................por mi q llamen al q sea menos a portocarrero y tressor, de resto le voy adar el beneficio de la duda a todos con este tecnico
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    habla E Lara

    para destacar: su asistente en la parte fisica Larrondo (mismo cuerpo tecnico que desde hace 6años lleva en la federacion trabajando)

    sus consejeros y amigos en el tema de eliminatorias para estos 2partidos: el bolillo, garcia, rueda y el profe maturana (si, en ese orden los cito y en terminos de hermandad)
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    nada del troglodita en asesores?
  9. pepinointer

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    HOy ivan mejia en el pulso dijo q el arquero para estos dos proximos partidos es el arquero faryd mondragon tal como se lo dijo eduardo lara

    q opinan de esa primicia?

    el nuevo campo de concetracion va ser aparentemente fusgasuga la casa del expreso rojo

    la otra q no fue completamente confrimada es q parece q hayder palacios vuelve a la lateral derecho de la seleccion

    para los que querian abandonar al enganche, no se ilusionen muchoq lara dijoq no va a renuciar a los enganches, lo cual me parece bn por q lara no es tan bruto y sabe q se deb jugar con un socio en el mediocampo al enganche.

    lara quiere tarer lideres veterano al equipo para que guien a estsos muchachos los cuales serian mondragon e ivan ramiro......oscar cordoba tampco esta descartado del todo

    http://www.caracol.com.co/programa.aspx?id=130987&au=672547
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    Veteranos son anhelados en Selección

    TÉCNICOS DEL PAÍS le recomiendan a Eduardo Lara tener en cuenta a Miguel Calero, Iván Ramiro Córdoba, Mario Yepes, Gerardo Bedoya y Juan Pablo Ángel, entre otros, para los partidos ante Paraguay y Brasil.

    Invitar de nuevo a los veteranos para hacer parte del proceso y aprovechar su recorrido, es la principal recomendación que le hacen algunos técnicos a Eduardo Lara para su primera convocatoria de Selección Colombia, el próximo 5 de octubre.
    Carlos Navarrete, quien ha manejado a Nacional y Envigado, entre otros equipos, cree que frente a Paraguay y Brasil, Lara debe probar con combinaciones que se identifiquen por la experiencia y la juventud.

    "Una de ellas puede ser la de Juan Pablo Ángel con Hugo Rodallega, Falcao García o Dayro Moreno en ataque. En la defensa podría jugar con Cristian Zapata e Iván Córdoba, por citar algunos casos; lo concreto es que no se puede desconocer el papel protagónico de los veteranos porque ellos saben competir afuera mientras que los chicos se preocupan más de jugar bien y correr", explicó Navarrete.

    En los momentos de crisis todas las sugerencias juegan un papel determinante y pueden servir para elaborar mejor la carta de navegación en un certamen exigente como la Eliminatoria. Solo resta esperar que Eduardo Lara aprenda de los consejos y sea capaz de tomar las decisiones para recomponer el funcionamiento de Colombia, convocando a los jugadores indicados que le den credibilidad a su proceso y le devuelvan con resultados la esperanza al paí
    s.

    An article which was published at El Colombiano. I htink all the coaches have a point. At first, especially after the Copa America, I was against all the veteran and thought that we need to start from the begining with new young players....But right now I realize, maybe it was all Pinto's fault...Yepes, Cordoba, Angel, Bedoya, Mondragon all of them are good players that playing well at their clubs (Yepes will succee in Italy, I'm sure). So it's true that this generation didn't qualify, but they were very close and we had the same problem: scoring goals. right now, we have very young team and it may be a problem when we miss a leader with experience, someone that could cheer up and bring motivate to the young players (Julio don't have too much International experience). I think Lara should call IRC, Angel and Bedoya for start (Yepes still needs some matches after his horrible year, where he barely played, and right now we do not need Mondragon-maybe as a 2nd keeper even though I wouldn't mind to see Zapata or Ospina, both of them are great keepers too, but still, Julio needs to continue). The problem we have with the veteran, is that we can't promise them a place in the starting line-up. right now I still prefer Zuniga-Mosquera-Zapata-Bedoya. Crzd, IRC can't play as a LB, he won't be effective there. (hell, he won't be effective as a RB also, that was the main issue why he had a fight with Pinto) IRC is a wonderful CB, but then again, we already have Mosquera and Zapata there. As a right wing back, I don't pass on Zuniga. He must be our RB, unless Lara can use Bustos there and Zuniga can also be a RWM. Bedoya can actually helps us in our most problematic position in the NT, LB. Velez, Armero, Gonzalez, Arizala and next up is Casierra. Still, Bedoya, who played in this position for so many years, and plays well in Millos, can definitly be an assistance with his fast run and tough game. he also knows how to execute FK if Bustos isn't on the field. y recommendation for Lara: take Gerardo. As for Calero, not relevant. I prefer Mondragon. Another important changing: JPA. This guy can't stop scoring in USA. So it might not be the strongest league but still, because of our goal scoring problem, I think Angel deserve to be invited, I'm sure he can help us too with his experience. The combined between veteran and talented oyung players can work pretty good for us.
  11. crzdcolombian

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    in fifa 08 and every fifa game he is listed as a Left back..... so thats where I put him if he can play there if not he is not needed on the team to me at least

    but if Lara calls Calero tehn we are lost under him..... MOndragon a great choice but better than Julio..... I not to sure
  12. pibe10

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    Forget about these video games....50% of the info there in wrong. The can't even make the appearance right. Usually I fix it by myself, including the Pro Evolution games. Ivan played most of his career as a center back, despite his short height, and in my opinion he did good damn job, in one of Europe best teams, Inter. Sometimes the coach tried him as a right back, just like Pinto but he prefer the CB, that's why they started their fight in first place. He also played as a LB, but barely. I don't agree that he's useless, As long as he still a permanent line-up player in a club like Inter, we must include him. we are not Brazil, that have many "European" players. Regarding Yepes, we'll have to wait and see how is he going to fit in his new team. Regarding Calero, I agree with you, we don't need him, same goes for Mondragon. Julio did great job so far (didn't have much to do in the 4-0, he had sucking defence). Bedoya is a player that I would consider for the next matches, as well as soto and Angel.
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    News: "No tengo vetos", dice nuevo técnico de Colombia

    Cuando recibió ayer la noticia de la designación como técnico interino de la Selección Colombia, a Eduardo Lara Lozano se le hizo un nudo en la garganta. Su interlocutor, el presidente de la Federación, Luis Bedoya, tuvo que esperar unos segundos para continuar el diálogo.

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    I agree with calling some veterans back but not all. I don't know about IRC or Calero or even Mondragon. The defense hasn't been as big a problem as the offense and everyone knows why we lost the last game...because of Pinto's great idea of putting in 8 defensive players and no attacking players allowing Chile to play on our end the whole game.

    I would love to see Angel and Falcao or Angel and Wason. Or even Angel off of the bench as an option to Falcao & Wason. I think the back line should be Zapata and Mosquera but if Zapata isn't recovered from his injury then maybe Yepes and Mosquera but I'd be a little skeptical about IRC and Mosquera. I think Rufai might have learned enough in Romania and has proven himself enough to warrant another shot. No way to Ospina. But honestly Julio has been good enough and really doesn't deserve to be benched right now. My ideal call ups and starting line up would be:

    -------------Julio------------------
    Zuniga--Mosquera--Zapata-Cassiera
    ------------Sanchez---------------
    -Mao Molina--Guarin----Pino--------
    -------Wason-----Angel/Falcao-----

    Subs:

    Rufai
    Armero
    Bustos
    Yepes
    Mendoza
    Amaya
    Toja
    Giovanni
    Rodallega
    Angel/Falcao

    I think that Pinto's strategy was our downfall. He's blaming the players but how happy would you play knowing that your formation stinks and doesn't give you a chance to win??? The lineup I set up allows Guarin to have both defensive and offensive responsibilites and also allows us to attack with 5 players consistently and 7 players when the outside backs push up. I would really be interested to see Angel play with a hungry talented young forward like he did with Altidore in the Red Bulls. Interesting.
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    Hayder Palacios esta jugando en un alto nivel. El se merece ser llamado y titular en mi opinion. El otro que esta jugando muy bien es el viejo Rueda. Me imagino aqui mucha genta dira que es un anciano pero viejo como corre y quita balon.
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    me parece muy bien
    es custion de alto nivel presente
    olvidense de cualquier cosa negativa del pasado

    otro que esta muy bien es el Piojo.....podra entrar en el esquema de Lara?
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    Se me escapo el Piojo Acuña y con su perfil Zurdo seria ideal para acompañar un enganche.
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    antesq rueda prefiero mil años a amaya, sanchez y guarin.....hayder esta bn por q por lo menos save centrar y cobrar penales :rolleyes: y el piojo se me hace una opcion interesantisima por la izquierda junto a estrada, toja y acuña alguno de eso 3 debe ser titular en mi concepto acompañando al enganche
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    Yo mencione a Rueda por anda en buen momento a contrario a Sanchez. No estoy dciendo que debe ser titular pero un llamado para ver que puede brindar.
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    la sede de entrenamiento fue elegida hoy como medellian , ya q fusa tendria el mismo problema de rionegro falta de canchas.
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    Toja, rufay and dayro moreno played yesterday in champions league against bayern munich and played great.

    Moreno was incredible the whole match, rufay with some nice saves againsts luca toni, klose and podolski, some of europes best. With a soft goal they lost. Toja picked it up in the second half.
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    Sebastina Hernandez might get a call as he is playing ligths out in Quindio.
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    pecho frio, solo juega bn en equipos equipoos chicos, los retos importantes lo hacen orinar como millos y cali.
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    como arquero julio no es muy bueno.. solo vean los partidos varias veces... y vean que casi nunca coge un balon d primera....el mejor arquero colombiano en este momento y tiene experiencia es mondragon.. mientras salen arqueros como ospina y ramirez.

    En cuanto a un lateral izquierdo yo llmaria a vladimir marin, lleva varios anos en paraguay, varias veces campeon, ha marcado en varias oportunidades y no lo han llamado.

    Juan Pablo angel esta hacinedo un gol por partido en USA, y es un delantero con experiencia q es lo q le falta al ekipo...

    Zuniga es definitivamente el mejor lateral derecho colombiano....

    En cuanto a los centros hay muchos, mosquera, zapata, perea, yepes....

    creacion... giovanny, macnelly, y mao molina me parecen los mejores...

    contencion si no veo un jugador extraordinario, el cual no sea amarilla por partido -bedoya, amaya-... pero guarin esta bn... carlos sanchez.... talves el sultan soto....

    delanteros....
    wason, rodallega, y falcao + Angel....
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    marin esta borrado hoy en libertad, el man ahora es extremo no sirve pa lateral y jugo la copa america del 2007 con pocos pero horrorosos minutos en cancha

    yo no se pero si no es por julio tendriamos como 30 goles en contra

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