Lance Armstrong thread [R]

Discussion in 'Cycling' started by Real Ray, Sep 8, 2008.

  1. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Can you say witch hunt? Upon hearing about the 24 out of competition tests since he started his comeback, I googled to see if I could find some stats the list the amount of tests other riders have had. I didn't have much luck but if gambling I'd say Armstrong's amount is likely disproportionate to the rest of the riders. I could be wrong but still, the French anti-doping agency has done nothing but shot itself in the foot with regards to credibility. Sad really.

    As bad as doping is for the sport, but playing these games the French authorities are doing nothing to help cycling and Le Tour by using these tactics. When I heard about the man waiting for Lance I sadly got some sort of Gestapo impression. How can they not see the damage they themselves are causing our sport.

    I believe that if they ban Lance from Le Tour he has a solid case to take to the International Court of Arbitration for Sport. In the end they'll likely rule that the French have no proof (again) and force his inclusion to Le Tour. End result, the French Anti-Doping Agency will have even less credibility.
     
  2. aveslacker

    aveslacker Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Apr 2, 2006
    Old Madras
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd be highly surprised if it came down to that. I would think that, given the lab person apparently authorized Lance to take a shower, the French authorities will hem and haw, suck some wind through their teeth and decide they'll let Lance compete... this time... but he should never do it again. :rolleyes:

    I don't see what other moves they have. My understanding is that a person can clear epo from their blood in a short period of time by injecting saline solution, but that won't work on hair. So I don't see how Lance could have faked that (assuming he wasn't clean).

    However, Lance was pretty stupid. The rules are pretty clear that the tester must see the athlete the entire time. Lance should have just stayed on the porch until the tester's id was verified.
     
  3. prowazekii

    prowazekii Member

    Jun 21, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Armstrong to ride at Giro d'Italia

     
  4. aveslacker

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    Ajax
    United States
    Apr 2, 2006
    Old Madras
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just found this on YouTube. A group of fixed gear guys from San Francisco heads to Austin, meets up with Lance and they all go out on the town on fixies. He manages to come across as pretty cool in the video, and drops the crew going down a hill. Not so good at skidding, though.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNCPEzdZs5s&NR=1"]Lance Armstrong, Closet Fixie Freak[/ame]
     
  5. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Pretty cool video for the most part although I didn't like the stuff with them darting in and out of traffic. It's not very responsible and a big part of why some motorists in this area decide to swipe bikeys. Lance knows better.
     
  6. aveslacker

    aveslacker Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Apr 2, 2006
    Old Madras
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No doubt. The one scene where the guy shoots through the intersection narrowly missing traffic is pretty ridiculous.
     
  7. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
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    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Armstrong: 'Shower-gate' case closed
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2009/apr09/apr24news3

    The AFLD said Friday that it has "decided to take into consideration the athlete's written explanations and, in consequence, not to open a disciplinary procedure against him." It also confirmed that no abnormalities were detected in the urine, blood and hair samples taken during the control.
     
  8. aveslacker

    aveslacker Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Apr 2, 2006
    Old Madras
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    File this under: Not Surprising.
     
  9. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    So what is the over/under that something like this pops up again with regards to Armstrong by the end of the season?
     
  10. prowazekii

    prowazekii Member

    Jun 21, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. aveslacker

    aveslacker Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Apr 2, 2006
    Old Madras
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    ....and they'll all three be sporting Mellow Johnny's jerseys. Can't say Lance isn't a good business man. They are pretty nice jerseys so I'm sure internet sales will do well.
     
  13. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
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    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
  14. prowazekii

    prowazekii Member

    Jun 21, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
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    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Any bets on if Astana will even be a team in the next 2 months?
     
  16. aveslacker

    aveslacker Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Apr 2, 2006
    Old Madras
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Team Livestrong presented by Mellow Johnny's?
     
  17. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    With Lance riding for Levi, I feel strongly that Lance is going for top spot in France. I know he's said the right things about supporting Contador but I'm really doubting now that he's backed off of his original "goal" for the comeback.

    I don't know that I'd take that bet but nothing would surprise me.

    That would be pretty funny and rest assured that Johan would be running things.
     
  18. Stud83

    Stud83 Member+

    Jun 1, 2005
    So far it looks like Armstrong is pretty satisfied the way Giro is going. He's just trying to ride into form, pretty much ignoring all accelerations up front, not overly concerned about time gap. It looks like he's concentrating on the Tour, as well he should.
     
  19. Twenty26Six

    Twenty26Six Feeling Sheepish...

    Jan 2, 2004
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just finished "It's not about the bike: my journey back to life".
     
  20. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Don't tease us....how was it? Obviously it focuses on Lance the survivor not the racer which could be interesting. Let me know, good motivational stuff can make for great reading.
     
  21. Twenty26Six

    Twenty26Six Feeling Sheepish...

    Jan 2, 2004
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The book was very personal, and it wasn't so much about cancer or racing. Although, the book had plenty of both.

    The main thing that impressed me about the book was how it contained numerous moments where Lance looks very vulnerable or weak. It's not as if he paints himself to be a superhero that conquers the TdeF. He quits racing. He questions his own ability/purpose. His relationships falter due to his own mistakes.

    It's just a very human portrayal of who he is. In that way, it really becomes inspiring.

    I think you'd love it, Mo. You already seem to understand Lance's character, and it really made me kind of step back and say "Oh, OK. This is why he's like this or acts this way."
     
  22. Twenty26Six

    Twenty26Six Feeling Sheepish...

    Jan 2, 2004
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The junk never ends. "Armstrong's team"? A pot-shot by the race director? Wow.

    http://tour-de-france.velonews.com/article/94564/astana-fined-for-late-sign-in-before-stage-3

     
  23. aveslacker

    aveslacker Member+

    Ajax
    United States
    Apr 2, 2006
    Old Madras
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    65 euros fine? :eek:
     
  24. HuntKop

    HuntKop Moderator
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    Sep 15, 2002
    Sulla mia Vespa
    Club:
    ACF Fiorentina
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    What a childish, unprofessional statement by the director.
     

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