Kainoa Bailey at Stallion Laguna FC (Philippines)

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Germerica, Apr 25, 2013.

  1. mark timmer

    mark timmer New Member

    Apr 5, 2014
    Club:
    SC Freiburg
    anyone have an update?
     
  2. Chance

    Chance Member+

    Minnesota United FC
    United States
    Apr 5, 2012
    Minneapolis, Minnesota
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's been getting on the bench lately for Leverkusen II, but has been limited to 5 minute cameos at the end of games. I don't know how he's doing with the youth teams though.
     
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  3. mark timmer

    mark timmer New Member

    Apr 5, 2014
    Club:
    SC Freiburg
    for a 95 thats pretty impressive.. considering they have one of the best u19s in germany.. most really think highly of this kid
     
  4. soccerinparadise

    Dec 18, 2009
    Club:
    Athletic Club Bilbao
    So, the question is answered: Kainoa Bailey joins Bobby Shou Wood as Hawaiian-born players in the Bundesligue. https://twitter.com/KainoaAlegria/status/453295727637458944
    Best wishes to another "future Brian Ching" lol
     
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  5. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    Just fyi, it's likely that Bayer Leverkusen will take their reserve team out of competition next year. They have pushed a rule change through that allows pro clubs to abolish their reserve teams (they had beenn mandatory so far). Bayer Leverkusen haven't done so officially yet (Eintracht Frankfurt already have announced not to field a reserve team anymore, though) - but since they were the driving force behind this it seems likely to happen sooner rather than later.
     
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  6. Maitreya

    Maitreya Member+

    Apr 30, 2007
    Providence, RI
    Do you have any idea of their reason(s)?
     
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  7. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    Cost savings, mostly - some clubs think that the reserve teams aren't really worth the effort anymore since most players don't make it to the pro team anyway.
     
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  8. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    How will they bridge the gap for playing time and development between youth and senior teams?
     
  9. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    Well, that's up to the clubs, I guess... we'll probably see more loans. And the most talented players more and more go directly from youth into pro football. The vast majority of youth players will probably be simply sent away after they get too old for the U19 (at those clubs without a reserve team - so far only Frankfurt is sure, while there are only rumors which clubs will follow).
     
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  10. LongDuckDong

    LongDuckDong Member+

    Jan 26, 2011
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't really need to. Most players go directly from the U19s to the first teams.

    It's also become extremely popular to sell players with buy-back clauses. So maybe a Bundesliga club sells their 20 year old prospect for 50,000 euros to a 3 Liga team, and if the player develops, the Bundesliga club buys the player back for a set amount (500,000 to 1,000,000 euors?). This type of mechanism ensures that players develop in front of a real fan base while the lower clubs get compensated for their development efforts.

    For a lot of clubs, even big clubs like Schalke, reserve teams are obsolete.
     
  11. bajansoccer

    bajansoccer Member

    Aug 28, 2011
    Yes it's about money, supposedly the real reason is they want to lower age group to u21's so they have less players under contract bc then some of unsigned u19-u17 can play up. The Germans it's all about efficiency.
     
  12. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    Leverkusen now have officially disbanded their reserve team as well (as the third BL club now). So, Bailey will have to go somewhere else next season (either on loan or permanently, unless he makes Leverkusen's first team).
     
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  13. Sup Bro

    Sup Bro Member+

    Oct 26, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does anyone if he HG eligible for RSL or DC? If he chooses to come back to the states I'm guessing one of them would have first dibs if they wanted him.
     
  14. Tom Collingsworth

    Jun 14, 2011
    North Carolina
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    pretty positive he is HG eligible for DC
     
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  15. dcpohl

    dcpohl Member+

    Feb 9, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  16. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
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  17. ColeWCAR

    ColeWCAR Member

    Jun 6, 2013
    Indiana
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, I guess I'm confused. Leverkusen disbanded their reserve team according to what you guys have said, but they have a U-23 team listed on their website. Did they really disband Leverkusen II, or just create a new U-23 side? I ask this because it's mainly a U-23 squad, with a majority of the team being 95s-93s, but there's also two 90s, an 87, an 82, and a 74 listed on the roster.

    Fun fact: The 74 is older than one of the team staff members.
     
  18. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    "II" and "U23" are used interchangeably in German football. Leverkusen II was the official name, but for whatever reason clubs started to use the term U 23 team instead of reserve team (= II team) some years ago. Some kind of marketing speak thing, I guess. Anyway, that's just Bayer Leverkusen's english website being outdated, in the German version the team has already been removed.
     
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  19. ColeWCAR

    ColeWCAR Member

    Jun 6, 2013
    Indiana
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ah, I see. I didn't think to check the German site. What's that mean for Bailey? Is he listed as being on the U19s?
     
  20. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    Leverkusen haven't updated their U-19 squad list yet, but according to transfermarkt.de he is a free agent now. He was on trial at TuS Koblenz some time ago, but didn't sign there it seems.
     
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  21. soccerinparadise

    Dec 18, 2009
    Club:
    Athletic Club Bilbao
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  22. Midas Mulligan

    Midas Mulligan Member+

    Jul 24, 2013
    NYC
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. Ed-D

    Ed-D Member

    Spurs
    United States
    Jun 13, 2005
    NY
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Isnt kainoa a grain from Bolivia?
     
  24. Testudo

    Testudo Member+

    Jan 29, 1999
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Beat you to that one:

     
  25. jeffmefun

    jeffmefun Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Quakeland, CA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What the heck is kwee-no?

     
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