Judge gives the ultimate red card...

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  1. Auriaprottu

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  2. msilverstein47

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    Jan 11, 1999
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    does "bitch slap" mean violence? it sure means that to me
     
  3. yossarian

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    Jun 16, 1999
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    I'm well aware of Auria's response to you. But I still don't see how a store clerk basically committing a battery on a young child is any way related to whether a duly appointed officer of the court abused his position by handing out too harsh of a sentence. Your attempt to link the stories because of some perceived "punishment" angle is weak.
     
  4. msilverstein47

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    weak as it might be...I made my point that IMHO both have overstepped their bounds... and that Auria advocating a "bitch slap" is never acceptable in my book.
     
  5. Auriaprottu

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    The subject of the thread is a judge. He didn't slap anyone- he had a defendant with an attitude and the defendant was sentenced to 30 days behind bars. What's this got to do with some store employee committing assault?

    How many windows do you have open? Are you reading two threads at the same time and maybe getting something confused?
     
  6. Auriaprottu

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    I said I'd give her 60 days because I could. That as in response to a post about her receiving 30 days. You responded with a link about a store employee beating someone with a belt.

    Don't know what's bugging you today, but if you won't look into it yourself, no one else here can help you.
     
  7. yossarian

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    I didn't see where Auria advocated the judge hitting the defendant. Also, I'm not aware of any type of store clerk where meting out physical (abuse) punishment upon other people's children is part of the job description.
     
  8. Auriaprottu

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    Silverstein, when you make a mistake like this, you don't run from your own thread. You show back up like a man, admit, apologize and carry on.
     
  9. JBigjake

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    Nov 16, 2003
    Agree on both points, but didn't understand this one:
     
  10. Auriaprottu

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    I'm not trying to be argumentative with you, Jake, but if you agree with Yossarian on both counts (as you should) then you do me a great disservice in even quoting me because msilverstein's post is in no way, shape or form reasonable. There simply isn't any way for him to retionally conclude that I advocate violence from a judge against a defendant from that post. None.

    I've told him what I said, it's clear that I'm telling the truth, he's been unrepentant and this is beneath you. Period.
     
  11. Auriaprottu

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    Mods, this has just now become ridiculous. I'd appreciate it if one of you would speak to Mr. Silverstein about reading comprehension and possibly about taste. I've addressed the matter twice and he has not returned to correct his errors.

    I've said a lot of things to a lot of people but I have NEVER accused ANYONE of advocating violence against women. EVER. I'd also appreciate it if you'd leave the posts as they are- there is no reason to allow someone to say this about me and simply cover it up by deletion.

    As you can see, other posters have become involved and one is seemingly willing to suggest that I've done something here to merit the treatment I've received from the OP. I haven't, and it's beyond the pale for anyone to "well, maybe this" away such a gross accusation. This is sickening to read, and even more so to have to experience with others chiming in to offer the OP an out.
     
  12. Auriaprottu

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    Once again, because I didn't do anything to deserve this.
     
  13. JohnR

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    Jun 23, 2000
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    No worries, mate, we know you're not advocating beating on women.
     
  14. Auriaprottu

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    Apparently silverstein doesn't know it. Hell, yeah, I'm pissed off.

    If he'd come back and explained earlier, I wouldn't be. But he just left it out there --perhaps deliberately-- and then another poster decided to help dude out, for reasons appraently not related to political leanings (I don't think ms47 is a rightist). No, I'm not going anydamnwhere.
     
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  15. Ismitje

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    How about inviting him back with the magic BigSoccer tag thingy - msilverstein47
     
  16. msilverstein47

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    ok I'm back, yes I will definitely admit here to everyone and also apologize that I was wrong. While you never advocated any violence against women...the use of your context for the word "bitch" in a prior post is clearly demeaning. Nor do I approve of you comparing me (or anyone else for that matter) to an arsehole. I really don't mind if folks curse, but since I'm a referee I believe that directing them at anyone specific should maybe be off-limits. So that's what I have to say, I do apologize again.
     
  17. minerva

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    I think you're the one taking the use of the word "bitch" out of context.
    Auria never called the woman a bitch.
    he simply used a common term - "bitch slap" that is almost exclusively used in the figurative sense.
    some people say pimp slap, some say bitch slap, the meaning is pretty much the same - and it is almost always meant in a figurative sense.
    it does not imply that the person being slapped is a bitch, or the person doing the slapping in a pimp, and it almost never implies physical violence.
     
  18. msilverstein47

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    well, thread post #8 says that he used the word while I can't say that I approve in the demeaning context in which it was used, I was wrong when I stated that he advocated any violence against women so I do apologize to everyone again.
     
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  19. Auriaprottu

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    That's not true. I did call her a bitch.

    No, I most damn certainly did NOT do that. If I had, he'd have had a point.

    Everyone doesn't deserve an apology from you. I do. Thanks for returning and clarifying. I did get your PM but haven't read it yet. Ill go do that now.
     
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  20. msilverstein47

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    for some unknown reason the term "bitch slap" entered my brain and you NEVER said it...I was wrong.
     
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  21. Naughtius Maximus

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    Yeah, but you're a hard-arse... everyone knows that ;)
     
  22. luftmensch

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    Don't have the article handy, but evidently the woman showed up again to court, was teary and contrite, so the judge took away the 30-day sentence and basically said Let this be a lesson to you, young missy.
     
  23. VFish

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    A night in jail will do that.... not that I would know.
     
  24. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    I think it was during that time that a British politician was stopped in Philly driving his car and took exception to the officers attitude. He asked the officer for his name and badge number which annoyed the officer even more so the the officer asked him for HIS name, which he told him. At that point the officer, for some utterly unfathomable reason, became so enraged that he punched the British MP in the mouth.

    This was the MP in question...

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    All in all, a very strange and troubling incident :eek:
     
  25. ogopogo

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    The teenaged brain on drugs or just dumb as dirt.. Whatever it is, it's not a pretty sight.. Adios, chica.
     

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