Both teams from Madrid want Quintero as well. But I think he'll only leave if he's promised 1st team position. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...ews/reds-rumour-mill-latest-liverpool-7031706
Dude, that has to be your favorite word because the frequency you use it... lol I think Liverpool interest is real and Atleti is somewhat believable but obviously Real Madrid is not. Every player is always linked to Real Madrid as an assurance to the fans that if Real has interest then player must be good.
Quintero has played like what? 6 games?? and now everyone wants him? that doesnt work like that not even if he were argentinean
I think it's because they know how talented he is with potential? That that it may be easy to lure him out of Porto?
we already talked about perceived value on potential... Teams dont buy Colombian players based on that. You remember how impressive was the world cup for Quintero and he only managed to go to Porto, if he were Argentinean or Brazilean probably Barcelona would bought him. Muriel impresive season at Lecce only get him go back to his original Club and Cuadrado to Fiore. Did Fergusson bought James? has Ospina went to a better team (despite being the best Gk in France?) Did Falcao went to Monaco?? Im sorry but Colombian player in the market is not valued as you want. Those are the facts
What do you mean 'only managed to go to Porto'; we have a good history with that team and clearly Quintero was attracted to the idea of playing for a team where Colombians tend to succeed (I mean, he did win his first ever club trophy with them) and it's good for developing his skills. It could have been a personal choice despite possibly getting offers from those other clubs. Personally, I would like to improve like my fellow Colombians with a club that is with a good rep regarding those factors, but again that's just me. For James, Man United DID do a bid, but Porto are greedy as hell considering his bid to be low and he choose Monaco for various reasons that we still question to this day aside from the money/project factor. And I am sure Ospina is just happy where he is if he's the number 1 GK just as Cuadrado is happy with his current team; they have different desires. And I've always said that Colombian talent is undervalued but now this is an era where we're getting more attention, so it's not 'impossible' for those teams to value Colombian talent. Just saying.
That's besides the point, we are not discussing if Porto is a good team or not, Heck Real Atletico and Liverpool are bad options for an undeveloped player like Quintero at the moment. (but that's beside the point) the point here is that a team like Atletico Madrid wont player over 10 M for Quintero, Liverpool neither, Madrid only buys proven talent and finally Im very sure Porto wont sell the player for now, that's why that rumor has the world Humo all over it . Quintero haven't prove anything, therefore he wont be leaving Porto. Yes he shows potential but like I said before; Colombian players are not bought based on Potential. We had the discussion about Muriel, nobody is going to invest in Muriel unless he start scoring. yeah Man U did a bid of 30 Million and Porto wanted 35 which is about right, Mario Gotze cost 37 Million, Lamela cost 30 Million, Hazard 40, Pastore 42... Is James worst than any of those players?? No, Porto knows how to sell and they were right in selling the player on 35, Heck James can go up to 40. But here is my point; Man U thought it was a big risk going over 30 for Rodriguez... Big teams are not willing to pay for what our players are rightfully worth, because Colombians are being looked as a risky investment. Sevilla bought the best player from the Belgium League (which btw 10 Million for Bacca is cheap) , did they felt comfortable with that bought? NO. They get Gamineiro also, which on their eye; Gamineiro was the "big" investment. yes the opinion is changing, and we are being more valued now than ever. but still we are not at Argentina/Brasil/ Uruguay level yet
Brazilians, Argies and Uruguayans say they have a Spanish, Italian or German grandma and they don't count as none euro. That is why they are more expensive and get more transfers. Our best players for the most part are black or mestizo. I don't get how we don't get the Spanish ancestor bye the others do to get past the EU BS rule. Uruguayans are not better then us and haven't been in a very long time. Cavani and Suarez are world class but who else they got? We have many more class players then they do currently, better youth system and better league. Hopefully after we lift the WC we can get better sponsors in our league to make it more attractive abroad.
not all have euro passports, and they are powerhouses in football since the begginigs with more than 10 wc participations.....since falcao colombians are arriving very easy to europe or much easier that before....and our situation with mestizos and that all racial arguments that you claim haven changed ......uruguayans in history have been better than us ...before, that pair, i remember you forlan, recoba, francescoli.....and we are forgetting men like bacca in their moment like zalayeta, pandiani, silva not is a passport issue, they have more history football than us......that only have go to 5 wcs.... today we only have two stars : falcao and james......that have helped a lot to bring our players, but was a FOOTBALL SITUATION!!! if we play and proved that we are good, not only make noise and say that we are discriminated, because we are blacks and mestizos we will get more succes.... http://www.ondacero.es/audios-onlin...neracion-futbol-colombiano_2013120100028.html
Look at the Argies and Uruguayans for the most part they are white and have EU passports. You can't say it doesn't help. I think Jackson, Cuadrado and Zuniga are all star players. Cuadrado is world class. Bacca and Ramos to a lesser extent are stars as well
the real help, is to be world champions.............is maradona, francescoli............. we needed someone like falcao to be part of the market
yeah that really doesn't makes a difference. Do you guys know how Bergkamp went to Arsenal??? Netherland going back to the world stage at the 90's WC and the respect that van Basten, Rikjaard and Gullit created. I don't remember if it was the coach or one of the board members of Arsenal who literally said this, lets just sign one of those good players from Netherlands. Colombian players are gaining popularity, but the moment that we reach far in a World cup, everyone is going to want to sing a Colombian player. It happened in the 90's (and in the 90's was even harder because nobody knew who in the world was Colombia) and still we managed to put a player (Freddy Rincon) and a coach close to sing Real Madrid and el Tren to Bayern Munich. Now we been producing amazing players, very consistent professionals. But besides Guarin nobody is in a big renowned team, because we haven't went to the world cup. Is very simple
mmmm 1. they were 4th in the last wc....the best player of that cup was diego forlan 2. actual champions of america ....despite they won it in all decades (15 t....colombia only one time 3. the idol of zidane is a uruguay guy....that didnt play in 2ww......is enzo fransescoli they have produced a lot of good players, when we never had a player in colombia........before falcao the colombian player with more goals in europe had 40 in 8 season .... you are funny, you like to say that 90 teams is shit, and along with this team is the only that is memorable......but at the time, you think that we deserve the same respect in football that uruguay, argentina when you dont never respect our past teams...
yeah peñarol 5 and nacional 3.....colombia only one is very mediocre, to think that they have more respect and markets than us, because they are white........
EU rule screws us. Being white makes it easier to say you have a euro grandparent that every Uruguayan or Argie Magically have.
colombains have to change that loser mentality....that all the world is againts ud, and the eu rules are inspired to block colombians from football ....... all have been easier since falcao......and nobody gifted nothing to him our best players today grown in argentine football (james and falcao)......argentina have had di steffano, maradona, helenio herrera (creator of catennaciio), kempes, etc not is dificlut to understand why they have more opportunities than us......
me lei la discucion de ustedes y me gusto mucho .. y sin querer sonar salomonico tengo que decir que todos tienen razon @elviejomen tiene razon: aun estamos empezando a tener profesionales y el mundial puede influenciar altamente el futuro de estos y de los mas jugadores colombianos hacia y en europa. Tambien el punto: Rincon en el madrid y el tren en Bayern. El mundial tiene esos efectos. @crzdcolombian: tiene razon, el pasaporte influye. No por racismo, es simplemente que "probar" a alguien con las facilidades que permite el pasaporte comunitario es simple.. si funciona bien, si no tambien... diferente a llevar a un colombiano con todas las demas incomodidades que eso conlleva. Visa de trabajo, cupos de extrangeros, cultura social y futbolistica etc... @pepinointer: tiene razon, la calidad y la marca "made in Uruguay" tiene mucho valor y respeto en el mundo del futbol, por todas las razones que pepino ya nombro.