Jozy and the Footycats: Altidore at Sunderland

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  1. chalaron

    chalaron Member+

    Aug 15, 2006
    Baton Rouge, Louisia
    and that's why intent is irrelevant inre to officiating. The action is the only thing that matters. PKs are given for hand balls all the time where the player had no intention of handling but his arm was not tucked in to his body so it's called. It's not a poorly written rule just because you disagree. It states very clearly that the action is the only thing that matters. In this case the action resulted in Altidore falling down, ergo PK. Not sure what's difficult to understand about that.
     
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  2. Germerica

    Germerica Member+

    May 2, 2012
    Club:
    Los Angeles
    Similarly, PK's are frequently NOT given when the player had no intention of handling the ball.

    He is not obligated to call that a penalty. Now he's not barred from calling it a penalty, but he doesn't have to. The rule does not say that play must always be a penalty. That's where individual discretion, such as intent and direction of the body, can come into play. Many referees would not have called it. Maybe you would have.
     
  3. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax

    Every player on the team is not the comparison to make here. Every striker on the team is.
     
  4. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich Member+

    Jul 11, 2006
    we never give positive remarks on refs, but what an outstanding non-call by Webb in the semifinal. All the pressure in the world and he keeps his head.
     
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  5. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Can we start posting goals of Jozy to remember that he actually used to score them before arriving to Sunderland?

     
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  6. usry723

    usry723 Member+

    Aug 14, 2008
    Georgia, USA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe we should not make a game day thread for him so he'll score. That seems like an original and brilliant idea. Or we could sacrifice a chicken like Pedro Cerrano in Major League.
     
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  7. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They are given more often than not (and they should be). It usually has more to do with the position of the arms and how contact affected the play vs. any assumed intent. As I explained in the driving example I used previously, the burden or regulation/punishment is on the defender, because he can (usually) easily prevent his hands from interfering with play in the box (accordingly, defenders take the appropriate precaution and tuck their arms in so play isn't interrupted).
     
  8. Germerica

    Germerica Member+

    May 2, 2012
    Club:
    Los Angeles
    Good for Altidore...I guess.
     
  9. Fanatical Monk

    Fanatical Monk Member+

    Jun 14, 2011
    Fantasyland
    Dosena had one as well.
     
  10. bungadiri

    bungadiri Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 25, 2002
    Acnestia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My immediate reaction to this?










    This has gotten too much like a Freddy Adu thread already.
     
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  11. Dirt McGirt

    Dirt McGirt Member+

    Jun 20, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Matt Drudge is that you?
     
  12. Grogtank

    Grogtank Member

    Sep 5, 2009
    Vegas Baby
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hah that's perfect. Matt Drudge does have a super human ability to post the relevant headlines of the day.
     
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  13. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ha!
     
  14. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    I probably should have clarified. What I meant was "Can we post clips of him scoring so that we "as in fans/supporters" can recall that he used to score. Not that it would actually enhance his scoring or anything. Just that we can have something to do other than gloss over his lack of PT or whether he dived or not and so on.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWWF9vHLXzY
     
  15. GalacticoX4

    GalacticoX4 Member+

    Jun 2, 2004
    They didn't get it but i got it. R. Pryor. Legend.
     
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  16. Pass-n-Go

    Pass-n-Go Member+

    Jul 5, 2008
    four more
     
  17. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
  19. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  20. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    Oh absolutely. I'd almost contend he is underrated. He might be my favorite non-American player to watch week-in, week-out. Love watching him play. But as a whole, from where Spurs started with last season's results and all the buys/sells, there is no way to call this season a success.
     
  21. Chance

    Chance Member+

    Minnesota United FC
    United States
    Apr 5, 2012
    Minneapolis, Minnesota
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]

    :(
     
  22. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    7 goals, 9 assists in 22 league matches. Eriksen has had 1 heck of a season, though it took a while for him to take off. Adapted quite well from the Dutch league and Spurs are lucky to have him.
     
  23. y-lee-coyote

    y-lee-coyote Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I would call a season where they got rid of AVB a success by any measure. That was wretched footy for their talent level last year.
     
  24. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    And with an 'increase' in talent this year, it is even more dreadful.
     
  25. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich Member+

    Jul 11, 2006
    i hope jozy can take the momentum of his dive into the next set of matches, maybe all the way to the WC.
     
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