Re: Jose Perkeman nuevo DT de Colombia!!!! http://www.antena2.com.co/audios/pl...hecho-que-p-kerman-ser-el-t-cnico-de-colombia Fabián Ghaldi: "Den por hecho, que Pékerman será el técnico de Colombia" http://www.antena2.com.co/audios/pl...-que-se-va-dar-lo-de-colombia-estamos-la-espe "Pensamos que se va a dar lo de Colombia. Estamos a la espera de que José Pekerman lo oficialice"
Re: Jose Pekerman - Candidato a ser DT de Colombia cada hincha tiene una buena idea de su seleccion, siempre hay 4 o 6 fijos pero recuerde que hay que balancear el equipo, juventud y experiencia, en ese momento los de 30 y 33 entran a ser un plus para cualquier dt. dijiste antes, que se cotizaran mejor los que venda colombia al exterior....estoy muy de acuerdo y mas aun cuando el que los recomiende o lanze al campo de 90 o 80 minutos es un ARGENTINO!! era uno de los puntos que tocabamos hace 4 temporadas cuando los federativos buscaban un tipo pa la sele.....te comentaba que como era posible que los 36 votos de cada equipo que elige los 7 feds. no podian ver ganancia economica en esa loteria de la cotizacion permanente. pregunta: tocalli, era el eterno asistente de nestor Jose, donde estara ahora (es un tipo muy capaz tambien)
Re: Jose Pekerman - Candidato a ser DT de Colombia Crzd leonel hated falcao, he was the fisrst responsible about his injure.....and according to media he wanted that place for jackson without a doubt
Re: Jose Pekerman - Candidato a ser DT de Colombia no creo que la palabra odio en la seleccion se dio, y menos viniendo de eonel por un referente del futbol actual. no le veo fundamentos o nunca encontre indicios de eso en la relacion de leo con sus delanteros, el solo hecho de mencionar a Jackson (hombre de confianza para el exDIM) desluce el comentario
Re: Jose Pekerman - Candidato a ser DT de Colombia Hopefully Ortega emerges as a solid option before June, so we can finally cure ourselves of this horrble case of gio moreno herpes
Re: Jose Pekerman - Candidato a ser DT de Colombia Eso es lo que se habla.....falcao le pidió trabajo diferenciado que estaba golpeado y leonel al mejor estilo pinto no le importo...y resultado del entrenamiento? ivan mejia habla que eso genero mucho malestar en el grupo especial por guarin y el combo del sub 20 2005, y que las ganas de hacerle cajón con jackson eran muy visibles banquear en la paz al delantero en el que ese entonces era el delantero con mas goles en el temporada en el mundo....no creo que hable mucho de la sensatez de leonel
Re: Jose Pekerman - Candidato a ser DT de Colombia Despues de salir campeon con Colo Colo en el 2009 y quedar eliminado en la fase de grupos de la COpa Libertadores 2010, se fue a Quilmes en el segundo semestre del 2010, donde fracaso sin ganar ningun partido.
Re: Jose Pekerman - Candidato a ser DT de Colombia y esto dijo tocalli:Hugo Tocalli no descarta acompañar a Pékerman en la Selección Colombia. "No me dijo nada pero habría que charlarlo"
Re: Jose Pekerman - Candidato a ser DT de Colombia esos hacen buen equipo en el banco, pero parece que el nexo con las divisiones inferiores - o mejor dicho con el equipo del piscis Restrepo ya esta escogido. hoy dio declaraciones
Re: Jose Perkeman nuevo DT de Colombia!!!! credibility? jajajaja What credibility? RCN are nothing but a mouthpiece for Ardila Lule Inc, Atletico Nacional y la Federacion del futbol. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RCN_TV http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Ardila_Lülle with all respect, it sounds like a lot of people here have never set foot in Colombia, because they have no clue of what really goes on in our country..
Re: Jose Perkeman nuevo DT de Colombia!!!! What do you mean "again"? I am not being disrespectful to anyone, i am just stating my valid opinion. i won't press the issue if it bothers you so much, but i think it is worth mentioning.
Re: Jose Perkeman nuevo DT de Colombia!!!! I've spent a lot of time in Colombia, but its quite ironic that some of the folks who haven't been there in there lives are the most knowledgeable when it comes to futbol. I'm fully aware of the networks and their ownership, but its completely immaterial to this situation. Most news bureau's are owned by private entities with their own agendas (common examples would be GE and NewsCorp) - even the mighty BBC contends with Murdoch's Sky News. This is far from unique. It may be news to you, but a high percentage of RCN's viewership has not only stepped foot in Colombia, but lives there, knows who owns the network and continues to watch. In fact, given by the speed with which the story spread the other night, there are a lot of people in Colombia who trusted them on this story irrespective of their ownership (you'll note by simply reading this thread that I didn't). So you're theory is that Lulle deliberately instructed RCN to issue a false story on the national prank day, so that he could what? Lose more viewership to Caracol and make less money off of advertising? So they could push their pro-Pekerman agenda? Make people more frustrated with the corruption at the FA, that as an owner Lulle is indirectly responsible for and associated with? So they could have a good laugh? PS. To question the value of posters contributions here based on their time in Colombia is disrespectful. First warning.
Re: Jose Perkeman nuevo DT de Colombia!!!! Professional soccer is a BUSINESS first and foremost. You can't have complete knowledge of professional soccer unless you include the business and economical aspects of it. The business aspect of it is what makes players come and go, and teams win or lose championships, so NO, it is definitely not "inmaterial" This has nothing to do with contention. Neither the BBC nor NewsCorp own any professional soccer teams. Ardila Lule Inc, no only owns RCN, they own Nacional as well, so i don't expect any real criticism from RCN towards Nacional. You are not going to see it or hear it, because any RCN journalist that does so will lose his job in two seconds. RCN rules the soccer airwaves, they have no competition, they are basically an economic monopoly fueled by the other companies that make up Ardila Lule Inc. They have a dedicated sports network.. Antena dos.. Caracol doesn't come even close, and the Spanish company that now owns Caracol cannot compete with RCN. Caracol lost the TV and radio soccer transmission wars to RCN a LONG TIME AGO, there is no contest. This is why RCN has the most listeners.. they don't have a choice..even I listen to Antena Dos because Caracol's trasmissions of the FPC (Carrusel del Futbol) are terrible. History has proven over and over again that people would literally believe anything put out by "trusted sources" like the false stories about WMDs in Iraq, etc etc. so the fact that a lot of people believe in the things said in RCN is not unusual. Ardila Lulle Inc, doesn't have to instruct anything to RCN, anyone working there KNOWS that you don't criticize the mother company. RCN are a de-facto sports media monopoly, and advertisers don't have a choice. Either way, RCN has one of the biggest advertisers ever.. Postobon.. and they will never lose that one. All i am saying is that, don't expect independent, objective journalism from RCN. They have no credibility, at least not with people who understand how things work in Colombia.
Re: Jose Perkeman nuevo DT de Colombia!!!! Caracol tiene mas oyentes que rcn, así como caracol tv tienes mas audiencia que ron sera que murdoch y compañía solo son dueños de canales.... de ningún medio se debe esperar una información 100 % trasparente eso es regla básica no es ningún descubrimiento, santos y el tiempo, caracol y espectador y santodomingo(periódico donde salieron las supuestas razones, también que el grupo tiene relación directa con la selección esto muestra clara idependencia(, rcn con ardila lulle, el país y la familia lloreda... y en todos los países es igual...otra cosa es que no se debe buscar un complot por todos lados y subestimar a la gente que no vive en el país o que vive en el por no tener una visión conspirativa de la cosas revise el twitter de los periodistas jorge bermudez (no el jugador), juan felipe cadavid y andrea guerrero de rcn, y no han hecho mas que denunciar la gestion de luis bedoya .....para dejar de decir que el medio de ardila lule es complice de lo que pasa con la selección
Re: Jose Perkeman nuevo DT de Colombia!!!! Lea bien por favor! Estamos hablando oyentes de las transmisiones de futbol!! Antena dos tiene monopolizada la trasmision deportiva en Colombia, y eso lo sabe todo el mundo.
Re: Jose Perkeman nuevo DT de Colombia!!!! el pulso de futbol de caracol es el programa mas oido en deportes en colombia, el carrusel lo oyen bastante al igual que el alargue , y antena 2 no tiene monopolizado caracol le hace competencia......deje su conspiracion por todo
Re: Jose Perkeman nuevo DT de Colombia!!!! Its immaterial. The points you are making actually detract from your argument. HdAB theory: RCN has reason to go to print with a fake story because RCN is owned by Lulle, because: - Lulle is part of the Futbol oligarchy: Makes no sense because jumping the gun on the story only makes the FA look worse and Lulle by association, because as you are so proud to say, people in Colombia know how things work. - Lulle is a business person: Makes no sense because as a business person he wants to maximize profit. People may watch RCN or Antenna2 for other sports coverage, but his news broadcasts compete directly with Caracol (which by the way does own the lion share of NT rights and coverage - so your argument that RCN has a futbol monopoly is silly, we're talking about NT coverage and if anything they have less) and he loses viewers by putting out a false story. If he loses viewers he loses advertisers and money. If he has less viewers, it makes his advertising for Postobon less effective. There is no incentive here because the false story hurts Lulle's interests in both cases you propose. The only logical reason I can see for RCN getting so aggressive with the story is the opposite of what you propose. That because Caracol owns the rights to the national team and are the primary source for news regarding them and the Martino/Pekerman job offers are a big story regarding the national team, RCN was concerned about losing viewership and so they decided to try to go after the story first to get the scoop on the competitor who usually owns NT coverage. No conspiracy, straight competition. Doesn't make them any more credible, but makes a lot more sense than the Lulle Conspiracy theory. And before you go on another rant, I always preferred Premio to Postobon, so I have no cards in the Lulle conspiracy...
Re: Jose Perkeman nuevo DT de Colombia!!!! Ahora la fm radio ha ganado mucho rating con fútbol mundial que se robo a caracol Martin de francisco y a Nicolas Samper del bestiario del balon y futbol total, y casale que siempre se lleva sus hinchas de millonarios es absurdo decir que rcn tiene el monopolio, cuando los periodistas de caracol son hasta mas famosos como ivan mejia, hernan pelaez, cesar augusto londoño, diego rueda, hugo ollera, chemas, wbeimar.....solo de rcn le compite carlos antonio y los reencauchados vinasco y adolfo perez que bien pasaditos de moda ya están .............me atrevo a decir que el carrusel de caracol es el programa de radio mas oido en los fines de semana
Re: Jose Perkeman nuevo DT de Colombia!!!! Que man tan terco. Lea bien, estamos hablando de TRANSMISIONES de partidos de futbol. Caracol y la W son mas escuchados durante el dia.. Caracol ni siquiera tiene una cadena deportiva como Antenas Dos.. nada que ver. A los mediocres programas carrusel y el alarge los escucharan los rolos, pero en el resto de Colombia escuchan Antena Dos que tiene muchisimo mas cubrimiento de los deportes locales que Caracol.
Re: Jose Perkeman nuevo DT de Colombia!!!! Estamos hablando de cobertura de la seleccion Colombia. Caracol tiene los derechos exclusivos a la seleccion. Es lo inverso de lo que sugieres.
Re: Jose Perkeman nuevo DT de Colombia!!!! Yo en ningun momento mencione la cobertura de la seleccion Colombia. Una cosa es transmitir los partidos de la seleccion, otra cosa es cobertura. nada que ver. RCN transmite la mayoria de los partidos de el FPC so, what is you point? la seleccion no es un negocio.. el negocio esta en el vitrineo y venta de jugadores al exterior.
Re: Jose Perkeman nuevo DT de Colombia!!!! The point is that your argument that RCN has a monopoly of football coverage and viewership is wrong. False. Period. You then backtracked and said they had a monopoly of game transmissions, which in this case, is completely wrong, because we're talking about the NT, and their games are broadcast by the competitor. You didn't mention coverage of the NT but you should have - because thats whats being discussed, unless your new conspiracy is that Lulle wants Pekerman to turn down the NT so he can coach Nacional. So now its about the cut backs from player sales? How would this story being rushed to print early have any bearing on that? Are you possibly going to argue that Lulle was trying to kill the deal by releasing the news on a decision early? Let the conspiracy theories go man.
Re: Jose Perkeman nuevo DT de Colombia!!!! Prove it otherwise. I said an economic monopoly. RCN has a dedicated sports radio network, Antena DOS, because they HAVE the audience. Caracol has NO dedicated sports radio network because they DO NOT HAVE the audience. SPORTS, soccer, Get it? If that isn't obvious to you, then, forget it. Who transmits most of the TV soccer games in Colombia? RCN Who has the most TV viewership for soccer games in Colombia? RCN Please read what i wrote: economic monopoly. Read what i said above, RCN has a DEDICATED radio sports network, Caracol DOESN'T. If you are an advertiser who wants to reach an sports audience, who would you hire? the company that has a NETWORK of sports stations or the company that doesn't? When did i mention anything about the NT? Please answer this: If caracol had the biggest soccer and sports audience, why wouldn't they have a dedicated sports network like Antena DOS and offer the same coverage as they do? I never said any of that. One more time, all i am saying is that, you should take anything you read or hear in RCN with a grain of salt. That is all.